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  1. 41 minutes ago, DerrickHenrysCleats said:


    KC has 11 million in cap space I believe and certain details can be renegotiated or payed as a bonus or spread out over voidable years. I think Savy GMs might be able to swing it if the compensation was to their liking.

     

    They could restructure things if Julio agreed to it, but the Chiefs need 5M to sign their rookie class.  If Julio isn't going to renegotiate, only the teams with a ton of cap space can pull anything off.  Keep in mind those teams usually have higher draft picks which means they need to reserve more cap room to sign those picks.

    Rookie Pool numbers:

    https://overthecap.com/draft/

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  2. This has been denied by one or two other "sources" but Lammey is a beat writer for the Broncos and doesn't report BS as far as I know.

     

    It sounds over the top, like there must have been another piece to it, but when you consider what SF traded to move up in the draft, something like this isn't out of character.

     

    It's unbelievable that they would be turned away by the Jets however...

     

  3. 43 minutes ago, colorado2013 said:


    Respectfully disagree.

     

    Having a backup you can trust to fill in and keep the team afloat is of significant value, IMO.  Having a QB available so that you don't have to force your rookie QB out there before he is ready is also of value. Not saying Wilson (or whoever the Jets pick) won't be ready Day One, but it's a nice security blanking knowing he doesn't have to be.

    But, ultimately, having a nice backup like Bridgewater is of value to any team. I think Having Fitz helped Miami last year (though realize that dynamic would likely not work in the spotlight of NY), if Dallas's defense wasn't so awful having Dalton as the backup last season would have been really beneficial, etc. 

    You should have a quality backup if you are making a superbowl run (ie Dallas last season).  Miami had Fitz last year because Tua's medical condition left doubts about when he could start iirc.

    If you are in rebuilding mode, you'd rather tank the season if your rookie QB is no good, Arizona did it corrrctly with Rosen and ended up drafting Kyler Murray.

    The Jets will probably bring in a vet QB to back up whomever they draft, and it will cost them less than 5M for 1 year.  

     

     

  4. 22 minutes ago, colorado2013 said:

    Ok, so they would have had to had Bridgewater willing to rework his contract.  

     

    Not worth it with how the team is being rebuilt.  They're better off just rolling out their rookie QB and letting the cards fall where they may.

  5. 23 minutes ago, colorado2013 said:

     

    They could have tried reworking the deal.

    But even if Bridgewater was unwilling to, I don't think it's a issue. It's essentially a one year deal, so if they can fit it in the cap, what's the big deal? I don't think the issue with Darnold was this year, it was the next handful of years.

    It looks like a 22 million dollar cap hit for his contract.  The Jets have 24 million in cap space but will need about 16 million in cap space for their rookie pool.  They'll have a lot of draft picks to sign.

    https://overthecap.com/draft/

     

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  6. 7 hours ago, Boudewijn said:

    I think it's a solid move for Sam Darnold; he goes from having no receivers, no O-line, no coach and hardly RBs to - well, a lot better in every respect.

    For the Jets I think it's a Jets move (ie dumb). So now they're going to force their fancy new QB straight into the limelights again? Watch me not drafting whoever they choose to be the victim of that.

    For the Panthers I think it's a dart throw. If it works out (just imagine he breaks out like Robby Anderson) they look like geniuses, if it doesn't they waste a 2nd, which is not cheap but also no disaster.

    Darnold clearly wins this trade in my mind.

    I don't think it's a bad move for the Jets.  The Rotoworld blurb seemed to think the fact that the 2nd and 4th rounders are one season out meant they were "majorly discounted".  But generally speaking a 1 round discount is applied for each out year, but even that can be ignored in some situations.

    The Jets were going to get a third round comp pick if they let Darnold walk after next year, and they would have had to pay him for the year.  The whole league knew the Jets wanted to move him.  To get a second, fourth and sixth plus the salary off the books is a huge win.

    On the football side of things, Zach Wilson or whomever is playing qb for the Jets will have Corey Davis, Keelan Cole, Tyler Croft and Tevin Coleman to go along with Mims and Crowder.

      They'll be better off than Sam was, or at the very least not expected to do as much.

    As far as Darnold goes with Carolina, it's the best offensive skill position players he's ever had by far.  I'm not sure if Carolina has improved their o-line, but they should do that...I believe they were ranked in the bottom half of the league in pass blocking last season.

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  7. 23 minutes ago, colorado2013 said:

     

    I don't think you could have kept Darnold in NYJ. Initially I did, but the more time has gone by, I began to think it couldn't work. Not in that market, not with that cursed franchise.

    What I do think NY should have done was include Bridgewater in the trade package.

     

    Bridgewater is due 20M this year, part of the reason the Jets did this if they draft a rookie QB was to keep the cost of their QB position low.  That's what Joe Douglas saw work in Philly.

    On a side note, the Jets now have an awful lot of draft capital to work with if they wanted to make another trade.

  8. 1 hour ago, ajs723 said:

    Feels like Teddy to Sam is a lateral move. I don't think Darnold is the worst QB in the world, but he's not a marked upgrade over Teddy, IMO. 

    Maybe they asked Robby Anderson?

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  9. On 3/26/2021 at 4:02 PM, lolcopter said:

    I've heard more rumors about Denver throwing NYJ a couple second day picks for Darnold rather than moving up. Hopefully anyway, these QBs look like a crapshoot. Rather they stay at 9 and hope Micah Parsons falls to them (they could move up for him too).

    I think that could be a steal for Denver.  Darnold has been in some pretty bad situations, I think he could be a good QB with better players around him.   Or at the very least it's still up in the air.

    With it becoming more obvious the Jets will take a QB and they want to move Darnold, his price will drop the closer we get to the draft.

    Personally, if I were the Jets I'd keep Darnold another year, draft a rookie QB and see how it goes.

     

     

     

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  10. On 3/16/2021 at 10:30 AM, colorado2013 said:

    If the Jets signed him to be their #1 WR, and I don't think Mims is that yet, this a bad signing. 

    I still think they might be considering keeping Darnold, trading their pick to a team like Carolina, and using that pick on Chase, Smith, Pitts, or Waddle based on best available. That would make this signing more palatable. 

    It's not a bad signing as far as risk/reward imo.

    If I had to bet on what the Jets are going to do at QB, it would be trading Darnold and picking a QB.  That simply has to do with the economics of the situation, Darnold is due to get paid after next season, drafting a QB gives the Jets much more cap room to work with....Ideally they'd just keep Darnold if he were better than whoever they have graded as the #2 QB, but I doubt that is what they're thinking.

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  11. On 3/15/2021 at 9:22 PM, GottaGetTheWin said:

    Denzel Mims is their WR1

     

    On 3/15/2021 at 9:46 PM, ajs723 said:

    Y'all wrong. Jamison Crowder is the number one.

     

    On 3/16/2021 at 9:14 AM, lolcopter said:

    lol why

     

    The Jets need WRs, and Davis is only 26 years old.  The guaranteed part of the contract is 2 years 20 million dollars.

    I'd expect the Jets to add more recievers here, they could possibly cut Crowder to save 10M this season, but with the state of the WRs being what it is they might just let him play out the year for the 10M.

    Jets GM Joe Douglas typically wants to build through the draft and aquire younger players in free agency.  

    If the Jets are signing more WRs in free agency, I'd expect younger WRs like Juju or Will Fuller before guys like TY Hilton or Alshon Jeffery.

  12. 9 hours ago, The G Man said:

    The Athletic's Michael-Shawn Dugar, Mike Sando and Jayson Jenks report Russell Wilson's camp has broached trade destinations with Seattle to the Dolphins, Jets, Saints and Raiders.

     

     

    6 hours ago, BMcP said:

    Apparently he’ll only accept trades to the Cowboys, Saints, Raiders or Bears.

     

    It only took 2 hours for his agent to shoot down the Jets and Dolphins. ¬†ūüėÄ

     

    Also, his Agent listing teams that he'll play for in public is basically asking those teams to call for a trade.

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  13. On 2/8/2021 at 6:40 PM, SharkSwimmer said:

    Bell is 29 in human years and appears to be about 49 in running back years.

     

    He has less carries on his body than most great running backs did by his age.  He's just a player that fits well in a particular scheme.  He should have fit better with the Chiefs, but how much work should he have gotten after joining the team in the middle of the pandemic season?

    If Bell is content being a backup or competing for touches he should go to a team that has a system that would fit his running style well... Denver or Vegas would make sense.

  14. On 2/16/2021 at 8:05 PM, Boudewijn said:

     

    This. They'd be silly to waste high picks on RBs or cap space on expensive WRs. 

    If they're looking for a cheap WR to pair with Josh Allen's skill set, John Ross III would be interesting.  

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  15. 14 hours ago, lolcopter said:

    NFL Network's Tom Pelissero said teams have continued to call the Seahawks about Russell Wilson's availability. 

    Pelissero reiterated that teams calling about Wilson haven't received any indication that Seattle is "in any way inclined to trade their start quarterback." The calls about the quarterback have persisted, Pelissero said, largely because his recent media tour in which he has expressed displeasure about taking too many hits and about the direction of the Seahawks offense. Wilson is under contract with the Seahawks for another three seasons and has a no-trade clause in his contract, meaning -- like Deshaun Watson -- Wilson could choose where he would be traded if the Seahawks are eventually willing to part ways. Barring a stunning about face by the Seahawks, Wilson, 32, will be the team's starter in 2021. 

    Feb 11, 2021, 3:13 PM ET

     

    Imagine the Jets calling and offering their first round picks for 21 and 22 and Seattle's¬†first round picks in 21 and 22. ¬†ūü§£¬†

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  16. https://nypost.com/2021/02/10/texans-reporter-if-they-traded-him-it-would-be-to-the-jets/

    Plugged-in Texans reporter: If Deshaun Watson gets traded ‚Äėit would be to the Jets‚Äô

    John McClain, who has covered the NFL at the Houston Chronicle for more than 45 years, said on SportsRadio 610 in Houston that the Texans remain firm behind the scenes in their public stance about not trading quarterback Deshaun Watson.

    Unless the Jets convince them otherwise.¬†There is a caveat that will have New York ‚Äď and the rest of the AFC East ‚Äď buzzing.¬†

    ‚ÄúAnybody who says [the Texans] called the Eagles, not true,‚ÄĚ McClain said. ‚ÄúIf they traded him, it would be the Jets. No, they have not contacted anyone about trading Watson.‚ÄĚ

    McClain previously suggested the Texans’ asking price would start at two first-round picks, two second-round picks and two young defensive starters.

    ‚ÄúThey don‚Äôt call teams. Teams call them,‚ÄĚ McClain said. ‚ÄúThey told everybody they are not trading Watson. Doesn‚Äôt mean they won‚Äôt do it eventually, but I guarantee you if they did it, [it] would not be for Carson Wentz and the Eagles.‚ÄĚ

  17. 1 hour ago, lolcopter said:

    Texans president Jamey Rootes has resigned.

    Rootes has spent the last 20 years with the Texans, where he oversaw the business and administrative side of the organization. This isn't related to the Deshaun Watson situation, but the Texans have been shaking up their front office, also moving on from director of football administration Kevin Kracjcovic. PFT's Mike Florio reported part of Rootes' decision to resign is based on his GM recommendations being ignored. Senior VP of corporate development Greg Grissom will oversee business operations until the Texans hire a new president.

    SOURCE: Houston Chronicle
    Feb 10, 2021, 11:31 AM ET

     

    How many people in this organization think they should have meaningful input on a new GM?

    Of these people, how many realize teams were calling the Patriots about Nick Caserio for around the past 5 years?

    This isn't like the Texans hired someone out of left field.

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  18. 55 minutes ago, dan said:

    Fwiw, I was really impressed by how mobile Mahomes was considering he wasn't 100%. Thanks to his line he was running a lot and he didn't let his foot affect him that much.

     

    He was the player I was most impressed with in this game.  Very gutsy performance, and made some beautiful throws on the run that ended up incomplete through no fault of his own.

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