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  1. https://twitter.com/gregorchisholm/status/1383444032211152916?s=21

    sorry, no idea why that didn’t format correctly. Here’s the tweet:

    From what I'm hearing, #BlueJays believe Jordan Romano's injury will be a short-term thing and he should be back close to when his 10 days are up. Julian Merryweather is more of a long-term problem and won't be back for quite some time. Not a shock, because it's an oblique issue.

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  2. Clase with the save and looked absolutely filthy (I know, it was the Tigers). Threw almost nothing but 100 mph cutter/2-seamer at the bottom of the strike zone and the hitters just couldn’t barrel it up. Mazara fouled off a few, so he finally gets him with a slider.

    Congrats to those who have him. He’s good.

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  3. 3 hours ago, Wytchclt55 said:

    First off want to say I'm not picking on this post but in general the what I keep seeing about Clase and Karinchak.  Also I am holding both and I think they both could end up being top closers so I'm not coming from a place of rooting for one guy.

     

    However, to say he has the stuff and the demeanor to run away with the job how could you not think that about Karinchak even more than Clase?  I've been watching Clase for awhile now and in general he gets about a K/Inning and that's from a large sample from the minor leagues.  To me that doesn't scream "dominant" lights out can't touch him.  I DO however see that with Karinchak who has been 17k/9 guy in the majors in high leverage situations (and at every level of the minors).

    It's just when I watch Clase I think he's more like Sixto or Syndergaard.  To the average person viewing from home their stuff looks unhittable and we all get a dopamine jolt when we see a pitch have crazy movement and see the radar gun read 100. With that said, I feel in the batter's box once you see a couple of pitches or even see him a second or third time, his stuff still plays well but not as dominant as it does on TV.  Go watch the Detroit game and you'll see it.  First couple pitches guys were blown away and then they adapt and start making good takes and seeing the ball better.  Karinchak when he's on is unhittable and filthy.  Yes, I get the command issues but when he's on, he's not only better than Clase he's probably better than 99% of the league.

     

    For a comparison I think at their best Karinchak is more of a peak Kimbrel and Clase is like a later Mariano Rivera.  Both were top 5 closers with low ERAs and I say it to both as compliments.  I just feel Clase will be more of a weak contact low BA against guy and Karinchak is a overpowering swing and miss guy.  Both have potential to save 40 but I personally give the edge to Karinchak.  It's fine if you lean Clase I have no problem with that argument but to say he's got the stuff and demeanor as if Karinchak does not while he's more proven seems a bit ignorant to me.

     

    Edit:  For the record I do think Clase has the edge on the closers role in Cleveland, but that's Tito's decision.  It reminds me of when Andrew Miller was pitching the highest leverage situations getting the whiffs and Cody Allen was the closer.  Miller was the better pitcher but Allen got the 9th regardless.

    A couple things: I know for me I was reporting usage and who was warming up. I don’t have a dog in the fight, so not leaning either way. I’m not saying it was directed at me alone at all, but just clarifying my stance.

    As for “stuff,” no doubt it’s Karinchak. I owned him last year, and he’s unhittable. But that walk rate, if it’s up around 6 BB/9, is a huge issue. He’ll put two on and you’re just hoping he Ks the side. It’s never easy. He may be the choice, but there will be many uncomfortable innings.

    Lastly, when people speak on Karinchak’s demeanor, they may be talking specifically about him saying he didn’t care if he was named closer, he just wants to pitch high leverage innings (link below).

    Personally wouldn’t be shocked if any of the 3 (Wittgren as well) get the job and run with it. Right now it’s just reading the tea leaves and making our best guesses. 
     

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.beaconjournal.com/amp/4554096001

  4. I’ve been watching the Tigers game. Clase was the only one warming up a few days ago when it looked like the Indians might tie or take the lead.

    Today, Karinchak was the only guy warming up in the 7th. Appeared he might come in if Civale got in trouble. He didn’t end up pitching the 8th strangely enough, but all signs seem to be pointing to Clase imo.

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  5. 15 hours ago, crotchcrickets said:

    Any chance he gets the call this year?  Just wondering if he'd be worth hanging on to in keeper.

    I’d like to see where he’s designated first. I’ve read AA or AAA. Probably not until September, but never know based on injuries/ineffectiveness. NO ONE expected Soto up when he got the call.

  6. 19 hours ago, lakhania said:

    My comment was specific to fantasy value. Are they both future first picks based on potential or is that too close for comfort?

    I’m very high on Julio, so yes as far as future 1st rounders. I don’t think he has the same ceiling as Wander though, if that makes sense.

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  7. 11 hours ago, 89Topps said:

    The experiment of him hitting while pitching wouldn’t actually help his fantasy value. It would be cool, but you wouldn’t ever get those stats.

    This might be true for Yahoo or certain platforms, but not true of all.

    We use onroto and have Ohtani as one player. You can have both (and an extra bench spot) or no extra bench spot if you’d like to start at both UT and P in the same week.
    So in my league, and I assume there are others, you could get those stats. And it’s a huge bump in a weekly league, where he’s no longer hitting just 4 days. 

  8. 59 minutes ago, 89Topps said:

     

    Players typically keep quiet about that kind of stuff. Maybe I just missed it, but I don't recall many Patriots players speaking out about Aaron Hernandez.

     

    That said, if a player did something that heinous, they'd probably be banned by the MLB and not even appear on the ballot.

    During his career, Schilling won both the Roberto Clemente award:

    “The Roberto Clemente Award is bestowed annually to the player who best represents the game of Baseball through extraordinary character, community involvement, philanthropy and positive contributions, both on and off the field.”

    As well as the Lou Gehrig Memorial award:

    “The Lou Gehrig Memorial Award is given annually to a Major League Baseball player who best exhibits the character and integrity of Lou Gehrig, both on the field and off it.”

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  9. 7 hours ago, Football Enthusiast said:

    5. Voting: Voting shall be based upon the player's record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played.
     

    I copied this from the BBWAA Hall of Fame election rules page.

     

    Appears to be for players, not if they hurt someone’s feelings on the internet after retiring.

    Either way, I love those who vote for Clemens, not Schilling. Kinda telling on themselves when they won’t vote for scumbag Curt, but will vote for Roger, who had an affair with a 15 year-old when he was 28. Statutory rape- ok. Yikes. 

  10. 3 hours ago, KingJoffrey said:

     

    Aquino never really even got a chance this year.  Already in the pre-season there was talk about him not making the team.  He's an ok defensive Outfielder and they had the DH.  Reds handled their situation poorly.  Because of skepticism on Aquino he could have been bought for 1 dollar.  I'd love to see the same skepticism on Randy.  Nevertheless, it appears he is batting 3rd right after meadows and Lowe.  That's a plumb placed to hit for RBI's.

    Agreed. I don’t think he’s Aquino. Aquino isn’t good. I was simply stating the reasoning wasn’t great.

    Arozarena has a chance to be a very solid bat. I’m guessing he’ll go somewhere around round 10, and could provide solid value.

  11. 10 minutes ago, tonycpsu said:

    Teoscar isn't some quad-A guy, though.  He was a top 10-ish prospect in a loaded system who has shown a pretty consistent power/speed profile even as he's worked through issues with plate discipline.  He's unlikely to repeat the .348 BABIP, but the increased LD% and his Statcast hard hit numbers point to at least some of the BABIP growth being real.

    If he hits .230-.240 like he did in his first couple of seasons, he's a bust.  If he can hit .270 because of the aforementioned batted ball changes and flirt with 30/15 in a full season, I think that's a nice profit.  There's going to be a guy in every room reaching for the brass ring, and if you went reasonably safe in the first three rounds (looks like that guy went Freeman, Kershaw, Abreu, Teoscar) I think it's a perfectly fine roll of the dice.

    Yeah, there’s some upside there. But he’s a .245/33/7 guy per 162 ( a bump in SB w/TOR is possible), but in general I’d simply say he’s the same guy he was in June. And if he was an undrafted free agent in many leagues this past season, I have a hard time moving him into the 4th round.

  12. 1 hour ago, turner46 said:

    Round 4

    1. Brandon Woodruff
    2. Eloy Jimenez
    3. Trent Grisham
    4. Tyler Glasnow
    5. Rafael Devers
    6. Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
    7. Starling Marte
    8. Luke Voit
    9. Ozzie Albies
    10. Cavan Biggio
    11. Eric Hosmer
    12. Blake Snell
    13. Keston Hiura
    14. Teoscar Hernandez
    15. George Springer

    Is this the first vast overreaction to the 60 game sample size?

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  13. 1 hour ago, Light Tower Power said:

    Fantasy players think the DH is good because all their turd hitters get a chance that might not otherwise get a chance. All it does is add more parity to offense making everyone more inter-changeable in the end. Unless you play in really deep leagues that is.

     

    This isn’t a push just in fantasy. Most people don’t want to watch the “best” of hitting pitchers hit .177 with a .500 OPS. 
    Also allows me to enjoy great starting pitchers more because they’re not being pinch hit for in a tight game because they can’t hit.

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