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  1. 8 hours ago, CooL said:

    I’m quite frankly shocked at how much these boards always side with entitled multimillionaires. Same point of view was discussed when Le’Veon Bell was holding out. Yes, I agree their battle is with the owners, and these billionaire owners should be responsible for making up the shortfall if there is any, not the players. 

    My point is: In times like these where people are losing their lives daily, families are going hungry because of lost jobs, and the world is more stressful than ever before, players should think before they speak. Not everyone is fortunate to play a kid’s game for $7M a year, let alone $3.5M, or gosh, maybe $2.5M. Don’t make it sound like walking out on the mound is a risky profession that is life and death. Being a baseball player is not anywhere close to being front line and a first responder. There’s lots of struggling people in this world right now- physically, emotionally, and financially. They don’t need to hear this entitled brat speak. 

    The one reason to defend the billionaire (and there should be, we shouldn’t just blindly pick rooting against the person with more money, it should be about right and wrong) is that they bring in so much revenue because of the risk involved. Not everyone has billions and is willing to front load money into teams/players/stadiums what have you.

    Well now is that risk.

    I don’t want to see anyone losing money hand over fist. But if they lose a little money (relatively speaking) this season, they’ll make it back. That’s what they signed up for. That’s why they bring in hundreds of millions in other years.

    Snell, like many players, was completely tone deaf with HOW he said things, no doubt. But they shouldn’t take ANOTHER cut on top of what was agreed upon. Both sides are negotiating in the media right now. I think it gets done, because it would be absolutely disastrous PR for the entire league if they squabble over and end up not playing over money during this time.  

  2. 1 hour ago, Ecofolux said:

    My league specifically keeps 6 players year to year, keep them as long as you want.

    If you had that great of a draft, don't you have an advantage going into '21 with better keeper options? If we have a 2020 "season" there is potential for someone I drafted to breakout and replace one of my 6 superstars. But if there isn't a 2020 season, I would keep the same 6 players but would lose the benefit of having the awesome draft, which is unfair.

    but wouldn't it be unfair to give you the advantage of being able to keep the players you drafted in '20 AND give you all those picks again in '21? If 2020 is not played, I never received an advantage. I deserve my advantage in 2021. If the 2020 "season" is played, I did receive an advantage and 2021 draft order will not be duplicated from 2020.

    Same thing happened to the Minnesota Twins. A real team who invests millions. Maybe they should follow your advice and tell everyone how it isn’t fair to them. 


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  3. 21 minutes ago, colepenhagen said:

    top tier/phenom prospects are crazy priced (acuna vlad franco)

    ill take the 2nd tier, reasonalble priced guys that can easily  double in price in a year or 2 (bregman, yelich for ex) hopefully my senzel investment hits this year.


    edit- didnt trust my gut last year ST on yordan alvarez. almost pulled the trigger on nice gem mint bc gold/50. so close

    For sure. And you can get some guys relatively inexpensive (Bryce, Arenado, Machado, Bryant, Votto) who could be HOFers. Now is the time. Play the slow game.

    I use a lot of the young phenom cards to flip. Don’t want to hold for too long. It’s allowed me to put together a nice collection just from the same funds.

    And if you’ve followed Topps Project 2020...it’s a whole nother animal. They’re on sale for two days, that’s it. Yet for some reason people decide they want them afterward. So the secondary market is crazy. 

  4. 13 minutes ago, colepenhagen said:

    still find it funny how the same wander franco rc auto card is going for more than the same arenado/lindor rc auto card.

    prospect collectors are crazy. i guess they are all swing for the fences trying to hit on the next trout.

    This is 100% true. Jasson Dominguez first card is already going for $120+ lol. And people are paying it. You gotta be patient. 

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  5. 8 minutes ago, tonycpsu said:


    No, he cited the very real concerns about mask wearing among those who don't do it regularly, like... the people in the country he was talking to, and the very real supply concerns.  He made both points in the exact interview you selectively quoted from.

    He said, “there is no reason...” None. Zero. That’s what that means. And yes, he also addressed the shortage concern. 

  6. 3 minutes ago, tonycpsu said:

    Oh, and re: the unsupported assertion that "Sweden is approaching herd immunization (sic)":

    1. The evidence that herd immunity can be reached anywhere near the infection rates being seen in Stockholm is scant.  Most epidemiologists still believe that herd immunity for COVID-19 will require well north of 50% infected before the R0 value goes below 1, and even that's not a sure thing, because we don't know how long an infection confers true immunity.

    2.  Here is a thread that makes a compelling case that the real infection rate in Stockholm is nowhere near the reported 25%, and much closer to 10% -- nowhere near even the lower threshold that a small number of epidemiologists speculate could possibly begin to drag numbers down.

    3. Sweden's one week average new cases number is actually on the way back up in the last week or so.

    “Sweden’s top epidemiologist, Anders Tegnell, says fighting Covid-19 is a long-term undertaking, meaning temporary lockdowns will ultimately backfire. He says once they’re lifted, infection rates will again rise.

    Instead, Tegnell says moderate restrictions that allow much of normal life to continue are more likely to help guide a society through a pandemic that has a protracted lifespan.”


    But there are apparent successes, too. In a Friday briefing with journalists, Anders Tegnell, Sweden’s state epidemiologist, said the country has been “very much alert and saw cases very early on,” enabling a degree of control over transmissions. Countries to Sweden’s south suffered, he said, “partly because they didn’t see the slow beginning of the epidemic” and started “testing too late.”

    Tegnell pointed to “the slow decline of cases in Stockholm,” the country’s capital, which he now attributes “to a level of immunity in the population.” Possibly a third of Stockholm’s residents may have already contracted the virus, according to Sweden’s public health agency — marking a process toward “herd immunity” that may make the country more resilient should a second wave strike.


    I’m just listening to epidemiologists, Tony.

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  7. 3 minutes ago, tonycpsu said:


    They had a culture of wearing masks long before COVID-19 was a thing.  We didn't.  That means they had supply, and we didn't.

    Come on.

    But you just switched argument. We were talking about whether there was no need to wear them or not. Not about supply. Those are two separate arguments.

    He didn’t say, “they may help a little but we need to save them for those in need.” He said there’s “no reason.”

    Come on.

  8. 11 minutes ago, tonycpsu said:


    Who fibbed?  Nothing he said was wrong -- they don't offer the protection people think, and people who aren't used to using them can actually end up worse off by touching their face constantly.  In an environment where there's a constrained supply of masks, it's better for everyone if the people who need them get them, particularly healthcare workers.  Now that circumstances have changed, he's acknowledging that they do provide some protection, even if it's not as much as people might think.

    It went from “there’s no reason to be walking around with a mask” to mandatory in many places. So...there is a reason?

  9. 3 minutes ago, JE7HorseGod said:

    I'm certainly not regarding Dr. Fauci as infallible, perhaps others are, I can't speak to that.

    That said, although he may be wrong at times or had a motivation to protect resources for front line health workers when supplies were low or whatever the case may be, I'm still listening to him more closely on the matters of preventing the spread of infections disease moreso than people who don't have years of expertise studying infectious disease.

    Agree. My point is, some others are experts that pushed the Sweden plan. Again, they may AVOID a second wave (still in the air).

    I do not discount Fauci at all. I wear a mask any time I go in anywhere. And wear gloves. But there are many here that refuse to listen to anything else. I only am pointing out that he is not infallible. It’s so bizarre to me the way some here (I can quote them all if you’d like, it’s not you. I’m sure you can figure it out) refuse to listen to more than one avenue. Lots of experts with lots of different ways to attack a new virus. Then of course I somehow get lumped in as someone who listens to Trump because, you know, strawman and all. 

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  10. 3 minutes ago, osb_tensor said:

    this article/interview was over two months ago.

    what do you think should happen when additional information is learned through scientific studies? 

    are you suggesting that we shouldn't listen to doctors/scientists when they learn new information? or maybe you're suggesting they shouldn't put out updated recommendations?

    I’m suggesting:

    1) The people who DIDNT listen to the experts here were better off, clearly.

    2) They’ve been wearing masks in China for years when viruses are around, with much success. Our experts knew this.

    3) Most importantly, there are MANY experts, not just one. And some, not so surprisingly, have different opinions. 

    Sweden is approaching herd immunization. If because of this, they largely avoid a second wave and we don’t and get hit harder, there’s a very good chance our experts took the wrong path. And that’s an ok conversation to have, without “anyone who disagrees with Fauci is a mindless idiot who is an anti-vaxxer and thinks it’s a hoax MAGA2020!” 

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  11. 1 minute ago, AnonymousRob said:

    Did you listen to his entire quote, or are you simply running with this?

    Which part would you like to add that changes the meaning of this?

    But dude I’m with you! Anyone who was wearing a mask in March, I shook my head and laughed at the anti-intellectualism of the people who thought they knew more than the experts! 

  12. "There's no reason to be walking around with a mask," infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci told 60 Minutes.  While masks may block some droplets, Fauci said, they do not provide the level of protection people think they do. Wearing a mask may also have unintended consequences: People who wear masks tend to touch their face more often to adjust them, which can spread germs from their hands.

    Seriously guys, just listen to the experts.

  13. 5 minutes ago, tonycpsu said:


    What are you talking about?  The state budget is in shambles right now.  States don't produce money with a printing press, nor can they run a trade deficit.  I'm suggesting that, instead of trying to chase down dollars from out-of-state volunteers or beg for more from the feds, he raise revenues from New York's existing taxpayers, particularly those with extra slack in their budget, like a finance industry that was in large part exempt from the lockdown.  You'd prefer what, exactly?

    They don’t have to print money.  Here, it’s easy:
    Step 1- Tell all volunteers they’re excused and will not have to pay state taxes.

    Step 2- Whatever else you need to be (raise tax rates if you wish. Those corporations can move out of state if they wish. I don’t care.)


    *They shouldn’t be used as a political pawn (sorry, you’re getting screwed unless the federal government steps in and gives us money). 

  14. 22 minutes ago, tonycpsu said:

    If only the state of New York had some other way to find money to cover the shortfall.  Like, if there were businesses who operate in the state who wouldn't notice a few shekels missing.  Alas.

    Man, you found a way to turn incompetent government officials into “BLAME CORPORATIONS!” even here. Well done 👏🏼


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  15. All those health care workers who we called heroes for rushing to New York City to help their fellow Americans fight this virus...will be sent an income tax bill from New York for being out-of-state workers. Because New York is running a $13B deficit and they need their money. Despicable. 


  16. 34 minutes ago, TedStriker said:

    Yeah I have looked at it some. They've created scarcity which is good but it's incredibly expensive now. No way I'm going to encourage my kids to get into it at those prices. We still buy a few of the generic Topps packs that are worthless for fun but I'm not springing for those Hobby Boxes that are $80 or whatever they are.

    I guess you can't have it both ways though (kid friendly and scarcity). Left as it was, the cards were worthless so I get why they changed the model.

    It all depends. Their are 1 of 1 Mike Trout autographs that are out of my tax bracket. Buying big boxes of new releases is expensive. But for $15 my son and I can still get a box of decent product at Target or Walmart, and get rookies like (this season) Yordan, Bichette, Lux, and L.Robert. So they’re not necessarily worthless. But yeah, the game has changed. It’s almost like two different hobbies in one. 

  17. 2 hours ago, TheForearmShiver said:

    Maybe we should get the hobby going again and turn this into a bench coach / trading post for baseball cards since we can’t trade fantasy players. That would have been sweet to have on my Commodore 64 in 1989. 

    The hobby is going strong. I started a card thread in the off-topic section a while back. But cards are crazy right now, and even booming despite job outlook. All over eBay and twitter. @Members_Only_76 knows about it as well 😎. Feel free to PM me if you’re genuinely interested. 

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  18. 7 hours ago, AnonymousRob said:

    One seems to be taking steps to rectifying/limiting the effects of their mistake while the other seems to be doubling down at every turn and actively making things worse. 



    Eta by all means criticize both. They've earned it. But it's incredibly dangerous and misleading to try lumping these two into the same pile under some both sides argument. 

    Making things worse? Show me data to support that. Because the way I see it, one is fooling many people who judge based on words, not actions. “He’s taken 8 wrong turns but dog gone it, he’s now trying to fix that!” 😂👌🏼

    What’s incredibly dangerous is to blindly believe people at their word, despite results of their actions. “He’s trying” isn’t enough for me, and it shouldn’t be enough for anyone. Yet, here we are.

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