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  1. 41 minutes ago, 2ndCitySox said:

    While I love sports in general, baseball has always been my passion. I played little league, collected baseball cards, reenacted the Kirk Gibson 88 world series home run arm pump, owned multiple Nintendo baseball games, read fangraphs articles religiously, develop nerdy spreadsheets for fantasy baseball (the only fantasy sport I play), and follow more news about the game than I should. This whole sign stealing thing is really disheartening to me. I was finally over the PED issues, then this comes into fruition. I'm so jaded over the game right now. It's sad. I hope MLB can fix this problem, but considering that 2 of the last 3 championships have been implicated, it's a horrible stain on the game. I still love baseball, but I'm not "in love". 

    If you have one near you, try going to a minor league game or two next season. Good for what ails a fan jaded with the majors.

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  2. 8 minutes ago, The Big Bat Theory said:

    Well put, sir.  Also don't forget another of the worse.  The Pete Rose betting on baseball scandal. 

    But every time people get in an uproar over one of these things?  The game just keeps on chugging along.  Baseball has more lives than a cat and is harder to kill than a cockroach.  It will survive as always.  Not just this episode but the next and the next and the next.  And there always will be a next in baseball.  It's pretty much part of the game in and of itself.

    This is the mantra Rob Manfred whispers to himself as he falls asleep each night. 

  3. 11 minutes ago, kmoore1521 said:


    HGH isnt as black and white as a knee brace my man, or even cortisone injections for swelling, not a good comparison imo, lots of factors go into what HGH does to each individual using it with regards to the extent of the effects it has on ones body


    EDIT: saw you responded to some others so ill chime in on the knee brace vision etc, anyone in MLB can do that, not everyone can go on HGH and it be legal, so this is uncharted territory and hard to say one way or another what it does for Trouts performance, my guess is it gives him a slight edge but im not a doctor hah


    IMO knee braces lasik etc isnt any advantage because if someone see's better than you or performed better than you with it, why dont you get one to make it equal ya know

    That arms race mentality is the entire reason why the steroids era was what it was. I totally agree this is uncharted territory and my point from the start is once you start down that road of trying to guess how much one thing or another is helping someone and where to draw the line, things get very tricky.

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  4. 19 minutes ago, sportsfreak2744 said:


    It just seems to me that while a knee brace would help you recover some of your ability thanks to the stabilization, HGH would more than compensate for Trout's thyroid issue.

    In other words:

    CC no brace is at 70%, brace gets him to 85%, or 15% closer to "normal" 100%.

    Trout thyroid issue is 80-90% himself, HGH gets him to 120% of himself.


    DISCLAIMER: I'm not speaking to this as if I know for sure Trout does this, what Trout's symptoms are, or as someone that fully understands all HGH can do for the human body. I'm posting this discuss and learn where I can.


    What if the knee brace let CC plant his leg just like old times and he was up there a Cy Young contender again? Unlikely perhaps, but once you start trying to guesstimate how much one thing or another is helping someone, and drawing lines in the sand as to what is fair or unfair, you're well down the slippery slope.


    Something that struck me when Andy Pettitte explained away his HGH use as a way to recover faster was how that was deemed "not ok" but using cortisone for the exact same reason - speeding recovery - was socially acceptable within the game. 


    Bernie Williams started out wearing aviator-style glasses but midway through his career got LASIK. “The next day after going back to the doctor, I was seeing 20-15. Before, I was 20-40.” Vision is one of, if not the most important attributes to being a successful hitter, and he got his improved to well beyond what we consider 100%. Was he cheating? https://nypost.com/2000/02/17/bernie-can-see-better-days-ahead/

  5. 6 minutes ago, sportsfreak2744 said:



    You're missing the point. Obviously if he has been approved for this exemption he isn't cheating but he is still getting an advantage.

    IF this is even true, of course.

    IMO you're entering the slippery slope of what constitutes an advantage, unfair or otherwise. IF he has a medical deficiency and IF he takes HGH to correct that deficiency I don't see how it's all that different from getting LASIK or even cortisone injections to bring down chronic swelling. Was CC's monstrous knee brace an advantage? He couldn't pitch without it. 

  6. 13 minutes ago, sportsfreak2744 said:


    The "best player in the game" gets to take HGH and you just shrug?



    I'm not a doctor but it seems pretty straightforward - if his thyroid is haywire and he needs HGH to regulate it or whatever then that's what he needs. That's not a loophole, that's the whole point of "medical exemptions."

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  7. 57 minutes ago, SpecialFNK said:

    MLB suspended Hinch and Luhnow. Cora is named to be much more involved, should the Red Sox simply fire him now? doing it now could allow them time to find a new manager before spring training.

    with as much as Cora was involved, I wouldn't be surprised if he was banned for life.

    Disregarding the warning AND taking it to another club definitely seems like crossing a big fat line. I think the actual length of the suspension is probably academic as he'll be unhireable after this anyway.


    I am interested to see how the two teams do on the road this year. The boos will rain down for sure but I wonder how players will respond. Beanings etc? I saw Aaron Judge took the time to delete a congratulatory post on social media for the Astros WS win. 

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  8. 30 minutes ago, The Big Bat Theory said:

    Nobody cares about that.  But they just put all their eggs in one basket for 9 freaking years tying up their FA signing and trade flexibility, draft picks and international agent signings in the process.  Cole gets injured -- and most pitchers do at some time whether TJ or something else -- and they are screwed for years and years to come.  No pitcher in history is worth a nine year contract.  This will bite the Yankees big time.  So as a Sox fan I am really happy they did this.  Kind of like them getting the pitching version of Ellsbury.  Or the Sox David Price mega-contract but on steroids by comparison.  Welcome to the AL East, Mr Cole.  Hahaha.


    The question is what's the threshold that makes it worth it. Same was true of the Harper deal. If they win one WS over the course of his contract, does that justify it? Two? I don't think anyone has any misconceptions that the last four or five years of this contract aren't going to feature declining returns, possibly drastic ones. Ideally it works out like CC's contract did and Cole ages gracefully. But even if he doesn't I think one World Series ought to be enough to silence critics. Of course TJS or shoulder problems would be disastrous. That's baseball, Suzyn.

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  9. 35 minutes ago, duke of queens said:

    Obviously I was exaggerating the cost a bit, but if you think I am only spending 250 to go to a weekend day game in the summer( since those are only tolerable for a young kid) I've got a bridge to sell you. No way I am walking out of there with a bill under 500. I don't think I've seen a beer cost $10 in 10 years.


    Okay - $30 for two beers. Point being if you are spending anything north of $300 you're either doing it wrong or don't care. At any rate, personally I prefer taking my 4 y/o to minor league games (she's already got more foul balls than I ever have). Spending any amount to get her to YS now would be a waste of money. 

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  10. 1 hour ago, duke of queens said:

    It will cost $1000 to take a family of 4 to the game next year. So yes, you are paying for it.


    I agree Yankee games are not a cheap date but come on, including Ticketmaster fees you can get upper deck seats for $30 each right now. So for a family of four that's $120 for tickets, ~$40 for parking if you drive, $20 for two beers, $10 for two sodas, and maybe $40 on food. That comes in under $250 and cheaper than a Broadway matinee and lunch in midtown, and that's not even hunting for discounts or taking advantage of Pinstripe Pass, etc.

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  11. 1 hour ago, DJSatane said:

    He can't really say no, they own him. He would be violating his contract. no?


    I would hope he has the sense, or the guidance, for that not to happen. He has zero leverage and pulling a stunt like that would make him a toxic asset. He's a rook, with all the crappy organizational toing-and-froing that entails. He's not the first and he won't be the last.

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  12. 38 minutes ago, Cmilne23 said:

    Not sure the Yankees want to get waxed by him 16-17 times a season (believe that’s how many games division teams play).  Would definitely be interesting though.  I don’t think he likes anyone in NYC, and doesn’t appear they like him either.  Some sports hate and rivalry is always fun.  Cashman is too savvy though.  Doubt he’d do that.  


    I'm not sure where you get this from. He has a mentor/mentee relationship with Judge and he's becoming a fan favorite. Some in the press smell blood because he wears his heart on his sleeve but beyond that I'm not seeing it. 


    Maybe you move him if you can get Scherzer back but beyond that I think any trade involving him will go down in flames with the fanbase.

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