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  1. My guess is that the NFL will someday offer their veterans long-term healthcare, I'm sure they are trying to determine the qualifiers right now. I'll be happy when that day comes.

    The NFL has invested millions of $ over the past few decades for research & equipment improvements in an attempt to protect their investment....they are not the bad guy in this battle.

  2. 1. Brain trauma affects one in three players in the National Football League, according to The New York Times.

    2. During the 2013 season there were 228 concussions diagnosed, a NFL Health and Safety Press Conference report showed.

    3. Pro football players are eight times more likely to develop Alzheimers or dementia than the general population, based on The New York Times report.

    4. Receivers and corners suffer more concussions than other players.

    5. One-third of all concussions are not listed in the leagues official injury report.

    6. In 2013 the league dedicated a lump sum of $675 million to settle claims brought by thousands of former players.

    7. Roughly 28 percent of former players are expected to have compensable injuries regarding the 2013 claims, according to NFLs actuaries.

    8. The Department of Veterans Affairs brain bank revealed that 76 out of 79 deceased NFL players had CTE, a degenerative brain disease.

    9. Theres an average of 167 total concussions in the regular season, including games and practices, according to the NFL Health and Safety Press Conference.

    http://fansided.com/2015/01/17/9-nfl-concussion-statistics-youll-want-know/

    September 2000

    Dallas owner says Aikman should ignore concussion concerns

    Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones tells ESPN that hed push Aikman to ignore concussion concerns if it was a key game since all data that we have so far dont point to lasting effects, long-term effects from the head trauma.

    In 1999

    The NFL Retirement Board rules that Mike Websters head injuries from his years playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers and Kansas City Chiefs left him totally and permanently disabled as the result of head injuries he suffered as a football player. The ruling isnt made public until its uncovered by FRONTLINE/ESPN reporters Steve Fainaru and Mark Fainaru-Wada.

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/timeline-the-nfls-concussion-crisis/

    Read it and learn

    Again...to throw a causal relationship completely on the lap of the NFL is ignorant.

    To deny the NFL of culpability is even more ignorant, when there is EVIDENCE that they knew about this causal relationship for years beforehand. You've lived long enough to see the similarities between this and when the tobacco companies were trying to hide the truth between cigarette smoking and cancer in the 1970s.

    Please, that's one hell of a stretch...there used to be ads for Doctor-endorsed cigarette brands in the 50s, nobody has ever called playing football a smart choice when it comes to one's health.

    Show me evidence that shows CTE is caused by trauma received AFTER the age of 21, and that the NFL knew this & tried to hide it from its employees, then you'll have something that can justify the scrutiny the NFL is under over this.

    Thats the same defense as the cigarette companies use. Not everyone develops cancer at the same time so there is no link to cigarette smoking and cancer. This is a losing battle Psy.

    It's not even close to the same argument.

  3. 1. Brain trauma affects one in three players in the National Football League, according to The New York Times.

    2. During the 2013 season there were 228 concussions diagnosed, a NFL Health and Safety Press Conference report showed.

    3. Pro football players are eight times more likely to develop Alzheimers or dementia than the general population, based on The New York Times report.

    4. Receivers and corners suffer more concussions than other players.

    5. One-third of all concussions are not listed in the leagues official injury report.

    6. In 2013 the league dedicated a lump sum of $675 million to settle claims brought by thousands of former players.

    7. Roughly 28 percent of former players are expected to have compensable injuries regarding the 2013 claims, according to NFLs actuaries.

    8. The Department of Veterans Affairs brain bank revealed that 76 out of 79 deceased NFL players had CTE, a degenerative brain disease.

    9. Theres an average of 167 total concussions in the regular season, including games and practices, according to the NFL Health and Safety Press Conference.

    http://fansided.com/2015/01/17/9-nfl-concussion-statistics-youll-want-know/

    September 2000

    Dallas owner says Aikman should ignore concussion concerns

    Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones tells ESPN that hed push Aikman to ignore concussion concerns if it was a key game since all data that we have so far dont point to lasting effects, long-term effects from the head trauma.

    In 1999

    The NFL Retirement Board rules that Mike Websters head injuries from his years playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers and Kansas City Chiefs left him totally and permanently disabled as the result of head injuries he suffered as a football player. The ruling isnt made public until its uncovered by FRONTLINE/ESPN reporters Steve Fainaru and Mark Fainaru-Wada.

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/timeline-the-nfls-concussion-crisis/

    Read it and learn

    Again...to throw a causal relationship completely on the lap of the NFL is ignorant.

    To deny the NFL of culpability is even more ignorant, when there is EVIDENCE that they knew about this causal relationship for years beforehand. You've lived long enough to see the similarities between this and when the tobacco companies were trying to hide the truth between cigarette smoking and cancer in the 1970s.

    Please, that's one hell of a stretch...there used to be ads for Doctor-endorsed cigarette brands in the 50s, nobody has ever called playing football a smart choice when it comes to one's health.

    Show me evidence that shows CTE is caused by trauma received AFTER the age of 21, and that the NFL knew this & tried to hide it from its employees, then you'll have something that can justify the scrutiny the NFL is under over this.

  4. 1. Brain trauma affects one in three players in the National Football League, according to The New York Times.

    2. During the 2013 season there were 228 concussions diagnosed, a NFL Health and Safety Press Conference report showed.

    3. Pro football players are eight times more likely to develop Alzheimers or dementia than the general population, based on The New York Times report.

    4. Receivers and corners suffer more concussions than other players.

    5. One-third of all concussions are not listed in the leagues official injury report.

    6. In 2013 the league dedicated a lump sum of $675 million to settle claims brought by thousands of former players.

    7. Roughly 28 percent of former players are expected to have compensable injuries regarding the 2013 claims, according to NFLs actuaries.

    8. The Department of Veterans Affairs brain bank revealed that 76 out of 79 deceased NFL players had CTE, a degenerative brain disease.

    9. Theres an average of 167 total concussions in the regular season, including games and practices, according to the NFL Health and Safety Press Conference.

    http://fansided.com/2015/01/17/9-nfl-concussion-statistics-youll-want-know/

    September 2000

    Dallas owner says Aikman should ignore concussion concerns

    Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones tells ESPN that hed push Aikman to ignore concussion concerns if it was a key game since all data that we have so far dont point to lasting effects, long-term effects from the head trauma.

    In 1999

    The NFL Retirement Board rules that Mike Websters head injuries from his years playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers and Kansas City Chiefs left him totally and permanently disabled as the result of head injuries he suffered as a football player. The ruling isnt made public until its uncovered by FRONTLINE/ESPN reporters Steve Fainaru and Mark Fainaru-Wada.

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/timeline-the-nfls-concussion-crisis/

    Read it and learn

    Again...to throw a causal relationship completely on the lap of the NFL is ignorant.

  5. I have no issue with awareness, it's the transference of blame & litigation that I have issue with. Media running with it like it was some great cover-up by the NFL.

    It's also odd that Randle just know has had this lightbulb moment that baseball careers are potentially longer & easier on the body.

    Well, the NFL doctors did send Omalu a letter accusing him of fraud and suggesting he should retract his report, which generally results in a Doctor being discredited and losing their license, despite a near consensus agreement now on his findings.

    What would you call that?

    It's the very definition of a cover up.

    If you play football for 30 yrs, there's a good chance that your body will be completely shot & your brain will be part marshmallow = news flash?

    If Omalu's research into CTE was redundant because it was public knowledge, then why did the NFL doctors send a letter threatening that they would call his paper fraudulent and ask him to retract it? Why did the league feel it necessary to discredit these findings if they were already universally accepted?

    I did not read the Doctor's findings & conclusion...did it lay causal blame on the NFL's lap? What did you read?

  6. Also, an interesting hypothesis regarding brain injuries that I don't see mentioned in the media often enough...there is likely a genetic component:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/finding-a-link-between-genes-and-brain-injury-are-some-people-predisposed-to-trauma/2014/05/05/c2d9dd06-c49e-11e3-bcec-b71ee10e9bc3_story.html

    There will always be a genetic component...but more attention needs to be placed on the ill-fitted equipment the kids play with before they hit the big time.

    Ex- I bought my son a new helmet because the one provided by his school (Chicago Public) wouldn't hold air, and if I had not played I would've have been a parent that knew any better.

  7. I have no issue with awareness, it's the transference of blame & litigation that I have issue with. Media running with it like it was some great cover-up by the NFL.

    It's also odd that Randle just know has had this lightbulb moment that baseball careers are potentially longer & easier on the body.

    Well, the NFL doctors did send Omalu a letter accusing him of fraud and suggesting he should retract his report, which generally results in a Doctor being discredited and losing their license, despite a near consensus agreement now on his findings.

    What would you call that?

    It's the very definition of a cover up.

    If you play football for 30 yrs, there's a good chance that your body will be completely shot & your brain will be part marshmallow = news flash?

  8. It's tough to say, "he knew the risks", when we're talking about: (1) a 20-year old, ie, immature (and I don't mean that in a pejorative sense) kid who's making the decision; and (2) long-tail risks that manifest themselves 15 years down the road.

    There's a reason why Chris Borland is like the only guy to walk away from the sport and turn down millions in his early 20s.

    Many MLB players were 3 sport stars and made a choice because of the risks inherent to each sport...it's a joke for Randle to claim "if I knew..." He made a fiscal choice long ago.

  9. I can hardly wait for this whiny-*ss generation to age >>>> let's blame all that ails one in this life on someone else = fun.

    I don't know that this needs to be a generation gap thing. It's pretty much accepted medical science that head injuries caused from playing football result in elevated risks of getting CTE.

    It's not like when Jonas Salk invented the polio vaccine the old timers went around and said, "darn kids always whining about their polio."

    I wish I had been warned that the 8 years spent caddying as a youth would be bad for my shoulders, back, hips, feet, skin... ... ...

  10. Maybe they din't know the risks of "CTE" per se, but nobody can say that they din't realize playing football was dangerous. That was kind of the goal in my day--to see if you could take someone out with a good hit. Not so much anything dirty, just a good, hard hit to ring someone's bell, make them drop the ball, have them thinking twice about coming into your area again, etc. If you make a conscious choice to play football, especially at the professional level, you are consciously accepting the risk of serious injury, up to and including complete paralysis and even death. These kinds of injuries DID occur in the past, you know.

    I do think that someone should break the news that war is dangerous, though. Maybe they would stop having them if it was widely understood that war could cause serious injury or even death.

    I get where you're coming from on the general injury risk with football in terms of spinal cord injuries, broken bones, eventual arthritis, etc. Everybody knew those were possible. They were known risks.

    The concussion aftereffects though just weren't known to the general public when we were kids. The public didn't know that playing football may lead you to want to pull out a shotgun and shoot yourself in the chest like Seau did. Or basically have some of the symptoms of dementia at age 36 like ARE was talking about.

    Just speaking for myself, when I was 12 years old I never really considered anything bad would happen to me outside of some bruises when I started playing tackle football, nor was I told that would happen. Now, when I started playing and as I progressed through high school those risks became more clear, but by that point you don't want to give up on the team, especially in high school.

    And never did I consider that I would suffer long term brain trauma for the rest of my life. Maybe you guys thought about that, I don't know.

    Did you ever consider that spending your life as a paraplegic was a possibility?

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