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  1. 4 hours ago, sleepysock said:


    The numbers don't tell the whole story. He was a one-read passer and seemed overwhelmed a lot of the time despite the hot start statistically. 

    Heaven forbid you hit either hit your 1st read (at a near 70% comp rate) or the coach suggests you to run like hell before you get sacked.

    Sounds like it could be a winning formula to me...wait, it was.


  2. 2 hours ago, sleepysock said:

    Trubs looked a lot better post injury. No INTs, better decision making overall. Made some great throws in the second half against Philly including setting up the shoulda-been game winning FG. I think a lot of the opinion of him being garbage comes from the first half of the season where he was struggling to get comfortable in Nagy's scheme as well as the fact that QBs are expected to come into the league and contribute right away these days. The talent is clearly there for him to be top 10, both in fantasy and real life. 

    He had a triple digit qb rating before he hurt his shoulder, hardly struggling.

  3. 58 minutes ago, dashoe said:

    That's because it's a completely different methodology and name?

    I bolded, underlined AND italicized the obvious just for you. . .🤣

    Adjectives are important because they modify the noun. . .😜

    Also to make a point of clarification people tend to interchange passer rating with QBR and not all QBR's are created equal. Bhawk specified NFL QBR and u are specifying TOTAL QBR

    The NFL has traditionally used passer rating and QBR is the new kid on the block

    You finally have a great grasp of the obvious...welcome back

  4. 4 hours ago, dashoe said:


    Therein lies the flaw of the system. . weightings but more importantly most people mistake QBR as to how well a QB PLAYS/PERFORMS when it fact it only measures how well they PASS.  . .👀

    I read a completely different explanation of QBR from your guys at Football Outsiders.


    • Total QBR incorporates information from game charting, such as passes dropped or thrown away on purpose.
    • Total QBR splits responsibility on plays between the quarterback, his receivers, and his blockers. Drops, for example, are more on the receiver, as are yards after the catch, and some sacks are more on the offensive line than others.
    • Total QBR has a clutch factor which adds (or subtracts) value for quarterbacks who perform best (or worst) in high-leverage situations.
    • Total QBR combines passing and rushing value into one number and differentiates between scrambles and planned runs.
    • Beginning in 2016, Total QBR is now adjusted for strength of opponent. Total QBR on other stats pages (pre-2016) has not yet been updated with oppponent adjustment.


  5. 3 hours ago, devaster said:

    I prefer the passer rating stat, which isn't perfect, but is a far better indicator. The QBR stat is a joke of an advanced metric to judge QB's. Better to look at advanced stats from PFF or Football Outsiders.

    Football Ousiders uses total QBR with no issue, I wouldn’t mind knowing SPECIFICALLY what you find funny about the QBR stat.

  6. 57 minutes ago, Stonej14 said:

    Watson had 4200/26/9 with qbr of 103 (played with major injuries)

    Trubisky has 3200/24/12 & qbr of 95 (only 14 games)

    Already pointed out the sack differential and rushing stats are nearly identical. (Watsons are slightly better but has 2 more games)

    Pretty close.. closer than I thought but I would give an edge to Watson as the better player still but now it doesnt seem so outrageous to think Mitchell might be the better of the two next year. 

    Watson had a rating of 103...QBR of 63 last season.

    Mitch a rating of 95, QBR of 72...his rating dipped after the shoulder injury.

  7. 10 minutes ago, dashoe said:

    Watson holds onto the ball too long waiting to make the big play downfield. he needs to learn how to be more efficeint and keep the chains moving with short passes to

    I’m with you...

    nobody really predicted Mahomes’ play...but I feel it is now pretty even-Stephen between Mitch & Watson.

  8. 9 minutes ago, Stonej14 said:



    I think it's a little of both. According to pro football focus bears had the 11th best overall offensive line with the 2nd best pass blocking efficiency and the texans had the 23best offensive line (didnt say their pass blocking efficiency) and Watson doesnt wanna give up on a play ends up taking a 7 yard sack instead of throwing it away. Seems like all the mobile qbs are like that. I think dak and Wilson were top 3 in sacks too. Cam always has quite a few sacks as well. 

    Mitch is mobile 

  9. 2 hours ago, Stonej14 said:


    I dont know a single bears fan who think trubisky is better than average. I got Hope's for him to be good but everyone In Chicago knows hes not mahomes or Watson. 

    How you think Anthony miller is gonna be. Read a report that he played most of last season with a bum shoulder.. kept popping out of socket.. said sometimes when he ran to hard it would come out and on most tackles. Gotta be better with the fixed and going into his 2nd year.

    Is the bear OL that much better than the texan OL?

     ...or does Watson hang on to the ball too long?

  10. 2 hours ago, Sack Exchange said:


    "bigger" than cohen? it's cohen's hobbit-size that helps to make him so elusive.

    it's whyte with a Y, and while he was great at FAU, he's somewhat buried without a perfect storm of injuries.

    i don't own any shares of cohen (disclaimer here). i think his talent will carve out a role, like it did last year. remember how chicago started with howard receiving and cohen soon took all receptions away from him? cohen is simply too slippery with the ball, potential for explosiveness too high: his ability to stop and turn and accelerate does not have a comparison on the field. while i'm not suggesting that cohen's fantasy relevance is secure with the new backfield acquisitions, his real-life role on the bears is woven into the team's success. human joystick will see touches.



    I don't remember saying Cohen would be cut

  11. 1 hour ago, vikingapocalypse said:



    I believe this is actually true to some degree. Devy leagues (draft college players years in advance) have been discussing this class for a while. N'keal and D.K were actually 1st round picks 2 year ago in such leagues. Harry might have been 2nd overall after barkley.

    But regardless of what you might think of the class, i also think its because the league is trending in a different direction with big WRs. Athleticism, route running, speed and separation seem to be more highly regarded then a raw size/speed guy. Guys like brown, isabella, hardman, deebo, and lasts years moore, ridley, pettis, kirk etc.

    I actually think its a trend that should balance out eventually, but i was pretty surprised at some of the names that went late or not at all.

    Sorry but nobody can predict when a freshman college player will leave for the draft.

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