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  1. Leaving Gioloto in for the 7th resulted in a walk, a double by Brian Dozier and the loss of his QS when they pulled him. That wasn't predictable at all!


    He was on my bench anyways


    edit: May still have a QS 

  2. Just now, sleepysock said:


    I wonder if any of it is psychological. I saw a lot of his AAA starts last year and by the end before his callup he looked like the prized prospect of yore. Fastball mid nineties, sick 11 to 7 curve that he was throwing through a teacup, etc. Then he gets called up and while the ERA was stellar, his stuff wasn't the same. Same thing happened with the Nats. And now we see another huge drop-off between Spring Training and the regular season. Is he a guy that can only pitch when there's no pressure on him? At some point you have to wonder. 


    I was thinking that too, he has openly talked about getting in his head and it effecting his performance in the past. But he made it sound like there had been progress. And it's not like the sox are expected to be competitive. 

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  3. 2 minutes ago, crotchcrickets said:

    giolito is getting dropped.


    I have had bad pitchers but this is another level. As the announcers just said about his pitches, he doesn't even look competitive. I don't understand, he really looks like a bad single A player with no future. This can't all be cold weather

  4. 2 minutes ago, sleepysock said:


    I agree with you on MD, which is why I said it just delayed the K by a pitch. But he does deserve a little love for not offering at those nasty curves out of the zone the way he did last season. That's still a measurable positive you can't deny the guy thus far.


    The enigma with Giolito is that his in-game performance does not square with the stuff he has shown at times. For whatever reason, he can't duplicate how he pitched in AAA his last 10 starts or so last year, or how he pitched in spring training this year. Yeah, they're called prospects for a reason, but the chasm between good Giolito and bad Giolito is larger than any pitching prospect I can recall in recent years. He looks like a high-A pitcher right now. Just a mess. 


    Thank you. There is NOTHING there. Not even a for a moment. He has looked that bad. I don't understand. What happened to the pedigree? The velocity or improvements from the spring all gone

  5. 4 minutes ago, taobball said:



    Lucas Giolito.


    Batter is left handed, so pitches 2, 3, and 5 are outside, and well outside. Pitches 2, 3, and 5 were all set-up inside and were supposed to be inside pitches. I didn't see pitch 6 because I was grabbing the graph, so I don't know where it was set up. 


    (This AB just happened in this inning, I had to get an image). 


    Idk how much longer people can keep saying the cold is whats throwing him off. Maybe bench and hold but he hasn't shown anything that gives me hope. And by that I mean if you allow him to be bad but look for some positives that he might utilize, I haven't seen any of those. I did miss the first inning this game and the first last game. He has just looked extremely hittable with terrible command. 


    Someone else said it, but he hasn't even had a pulse

  6. 11 minutes ago, ToO_BaD said:



    I think in most competitive leagues he will be gone before Sunday's start.  After blanking a high-powered offense like Colorado @ Coors, there is plenty of reason for optimism against an anemic Giants offense at a pitcher's park.  If not owned by now, will definitely be an end of the week streamer and long gone.


    I also agree, there isn't a more obvious stream available. Tyson Ross vs. SF and King Felix vs. Oak are the only two I would put around the same tier. Felix more likely to go 6 but Luchessi more intriguing/likely you end up keeping him for a bit. Ross a dice roll with those K's last time around. Not super confident he goes 6, but he is betting on himself only wanting 1 year deals so he must believe he is healthy. PitchFX on his slider were bad, though, if I remember correctly. I like Luchessi's good floor, chance at a little upside more than those two, and the giants are terrible

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  7. 8 minutes ago, richg24 said:

    To add to this - he was also the first pitcher called up from the minors, showing that the team has a lot of confidence that he is big league ready. He was fairly highly touted from what I understand. He has had two epic starts in a row with 0 ERA's and <1 whip. Both games also with more than 1k per inning. He looks like he could be a massive wire pickup but he should be long gone in all competitive leagues by now. 


    Good insight, never thought of that. The padres want to start churning out contributors. If guys like Luchessi and Pirela show signs of promise you can bet the Padres will want to see what they got. 


    I was just going to add that before I saw your post, you are correct, if he does well against the giants in Petco, which isn't unreasonable to think, he will be gone in pretty much every league worth a damn. 


    Padres let him go 6 last time around in Coors, too. 

  8. 22 hours ago, RyanM915 said:

    i have yet to see this guy pitch on tv or any highlights..  what's his stuff like? anyone to compare him to?



    Small samples 


    The good

    -Unorthodox, deceptive delivery that will take longer for the league to adjust to 

    -Solid command, 4.00 K/BB ratio, 2.30 BB/9,  0.6 HR/9, 9.19 K/9, 1.02 WHIP 

    -2.60 FIP/3.16 xFIP in 3 starts total, two starts in coors, FIP not really greatest indicator in small samples

    -SwStr% is 13.3%, league average is 9.5% so thats a good sign. 


    The Okay

    -Averaging 90.3 MPH fastball 

    -HartHit% is at 33.3% which is average to a little high

    -1.55 GB/FB Ratio which is average. 

    -2.81 BABIP, small sample but below average and would be expected to rise a little 

    -86.7% strand rate, very high, he won't always get that lucky.


    He has the Giants up next at Petco. Pitchers park and as a giants fan, our offense is DREADFUL. He is a solid stream choice at the least. I think the league will adjust to him midway but there have been some reasons to believe he could be rosterable for more than one start. His deceptive delivery will be harder for hitters to figure out. Every year there are low-mid range guys who end up being solid contributors. Whether its because the league doesn't have the book on him or not, we won't know for awhile. But I'm going to try and ride the wave and see if I can get some decent backend starts while hitters are adjusting and Luchessi has a short term leg up.


    The other streamers/lotto tickets he has to compete with in my league (12 team h2h) are

    -Tyler Mahle

    -Tyson Ross 

    -Zach Wheeler

    -Skaggs is probably available in some of your leagues but not in myne right now

    -Speculative Walker Buehler stash if he gets called up soon


    I need to look deeper into some of those other guys but I feel like Luchessi will have a safer floor with his good command and deception, even if it only lasts for a few weeks. He's a good streamer against SF

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  9. 55 minutes ago, PremiumPlus said:


    Great post. I'd add that Joe Jimenez while obviously the closer of the future likely won't find himself in the role until the trade deadline at the earliest, and possibly not this season at all. Greene has looked great so far and Detroit likely wants to move him at the deadline, to taking him out of the closer role before then makes little sense. I also doubt they want to inflate the arbitration value of Jimenez so soon.


    This is the factor I have in mind. But if Greene falters and loses the role/trade value before the trade deadline, what choice do they have? If they move Jiminez into the role, he has upside/youth/cheap contract, couldn't he become the guy they flip at the deadline instead? He would have to be really good for the value they comp to be worth a trade, but will Jiminez really be a part of the next competitive tigers team if they hold him? I could see it going either way, just a thought. Turning high leverage relievers into trade value is one of the easiest/most efficient ways for rebuilding teams to accumulate talent. Have to assume somethings going to give in both Det and Tampa. Colome/Alvarado are the same exact situation as Greene/Jiminez.


    Tigers have already shown willingness with Justin Wilson trade. The Yankee's solidified this trend with how quickly they were able to rebuild just by moving two relievers. 

  10. Gioloto is so painful to watch. am hoping for a start that looks good in the box score so I can try and dump him on someone based on his name value who doesn't actually watch him pitch. I know it's only two games into the season but he just looks so hittable, command sucks, no out pitch 

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  11. 5 minutes ago, screaming_vultures said:

    Amazing how Rodney is still a closer in 2018


    Yeah, 41 years old, ridiculous. 


    I have Reed stashed as a handcuff but we have been down this road before. He could hold out all season, 32 saves with a 5.00 ERA

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