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  1. 8 minutes ago, duke of queens said:

    I went against Foles and R. Anderson, both picked off WW this week.

     

    Always fear Foles off waivers. Dead last place team a bunch of years ago is playing against me as I try to fight my way out of a bad season. He grabbed Foles five min before gametime when the owner came back from taking a couple weeks off and realized his QB was on a bye. My struggling team has its best game of the season. Foles throws 7 tds. 

  2. Just now, jsch08 said:

     

    Thanks. I put in for the Titans D but my opponent was awarded them because she scored less last week (our league’s rule when multiple claim on same player). I picked Browns up after. Hope I don’t lose on that play.

     

    I think the Browns will do okay--I have been sitting on them for 4 weeks just for their Week 16 matchup. I just saw that someone had dropped TEN and decided I liked this matchup even more. I was almost very wrong. 

     

    But think about it: Boyd and Green out, Driskel driskeling, and all the Browns have to do is try to stop Mixon and then let their DBs play. I'm expecting good things from them.

     

    All the same, I am very happy to have been gifted 10 points in the last minute and a half of that game. I need every bit this week, my opp is a killer. Good luck to you, maybe the Browns will do the same for you.

  3. 5 minutes ago, jsch08 said:

    ******** Titans D. Why not take a knee on that last pick?

     

    Don't you badmouth my guys (who I picked up just for this week and started instead of the Browns and was really angry about until the literally very last play of the game when they justified my genius)! 

     

    (Seriously though, if you were playing against them, that had to have sucked. Condolences.) 

  4. 1 minute ago, The_Truth_Returns said:

     

    I'm strangely starting to enjoy this debate.

     

    Antonyms:
    irrational, nonintellectual, unreasoning, superstitious, blind, nonrational, reasonless

     

    My use of random, as the opposition of rational, is a less offensive version of some of the opposites noted above.  This must be riveting reading for our fellow Rotoworlders, haha.  I stand by my opinion/suggestion that if you want to mitigate luck, albeit marginally, from your Season Long fantasy league … consider capping add/drops to a smaller number and widening the bench size.

     

    Your 17 year old league is what it is today, and probably has changed over the years whether from suggestion, or from occurrences that you all encountered that you wanted to mitigate or remove.  Some people, including myself, like to hear about the structure of those leagues to assess whether they are something they could/should adopt in their own based on reasons/logic behind the decisions.

     

    I've been enjoying it all along :)

     

    I guess my point about 'random' is that, particularly in the FF realm, that word means something very specific. It may be that some irrational things are random things, but they aren't the same concept. And 'irrational' does often get a bad name, but it shouldn't. If I'm driving down the road and a dog runs out right in front of me, my swerving to avoid it isn't rational. There wasn't a logical thought process that occurred, it was a reflex. But it wasn't random. To say it wasn't rational isn't to say that it 'didn't make sense'. And we can justify it with rationality after the fact. But the action itself wasn't taken by way of any rational thought process. There was no "Well, if I turn the wheel, I won't hit the dog, and my goal is to not hit the dog, so..." process :) It was 'non-rational', is perhaps a better term.

     

    But even if we use 'irrational' to mean 'non-ideal for my goals', like an economist would, it's still not random. If I care about economics, and the environment, but I continue to drive instead of taking the train, my action is irrational. But it's not random, I don't find myself driving my car through chance. My action is still guided by some of my preferences. So that's what my point was about 'random'.

     

    It's no doubt that my league has changed--we started, iirc, as a non-ppr, TDs and yardage only, non-decimal league. I took over for the second year, we made it a keeper league, added decimals, eventually ppr, more scoring categories, rules to prevent people from leaving starting spots unfilled, etc. And the process to add those involves rational debate. But it relies on preference.

     

    For example, I propose a new rule--what if we apply -10 points to kickers who miss extra points? What I do is explain the reasoning--kickers have the easiest jobs in the world, and we should seek vengeance against them for missing the easiest part of their job. And then someone responds, again with reasoning--the -10 points punishes the FF owner, not the kicker. I see his point, and agree, and we don't implement the new rule. 

     

    There's reasoning--but it relies on whether we value punishing the team for what the player does, and also to what extent we value kickers. We actually did have a rule for a while that was -X points if your kicker blows out his knee celebrating a field goal. :) The reasoning we use relies on the values you have. Each argument comes down in the end, as you've indicated, to a hypothetical statement: if you value a certain thing, then it makes sense to do such and such. 

     

    But someone is free to say "I don't value that thing". And that's where reason, logic, rationality can't do anything.

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  5. 1 minute ago, The_Truth_Returns said:

     

    Not sure how this turned into some kind of weird philosophy or English debate, but logical reasoning is an actual thing.  If your reasons contain no logic, whether it is subjective or objective, then you are just operating randomly.

     

    I take the train to work.  Because I like to avoid traffic, and don't like to pay for parking.

    You drive to work.  Because you think trains are filthy, and want to listen to sports radio.

     

    Economically, your decision is worse.  If economics are what is most important to you, you'll probably want to consider taking the train.  Works the same way with my anti waiver wire take.  If you prefer less luck in your Season Long Fantasy League outcome, consider lowering the number of waiver transactions in your league and expanding your bench.

     

     

     

    Right. You're agreeing with me. Rationality is very useful for locating the best course of action given a certain set of preferences. But rationality does not give us those preferences. If I value my personal comfort and privacy over the economic value of the train, then there is no rational argument that will make me see that my preferences are 'incorrect'. If I value economic value, and I'm not seeing how the train is better, then a rational argument can help me see that I am not satisfying my preferences as well as I could be.

     

    But you simply declaring that Week 16 ships are objectively 'better', or that ppr is objectively 'better', i.e. 'more preferable', has nothing to do with rationality. I have friends who play TD-only leagues, like they have since high school. They really enjoy those leagues, and they do not enjoy all the bookkeeping that you and I have to do with yards and catches and tackles and etc etc. 

     

    You are just flat out wrong that lacking logical reasons means you are acting 'randomly'. If you love someone, but have no logical reasons, it is not 'random'. If you like pizza, but have no rational argument for why you like it, your liking pizza isn't 'random'. It's preference

     

    The opposite of 'rational' is not 'random'. 

  6. 2 minutes ago, The_Truth_Returns said:

     

    Wasn't about my way is better.  I'm sure you'll agree a Championship Wk 16 is better than Wk 17.  And that a 14 team league is "better" than an 8.  Maybe that PPR is better than Standard?  It does not diminish the fun all have in those leagues, but the users here preference is certainly Wk 16 and larger/deeper leagues, for legitimate reasons.  We're talking about league settings, reducing it to the "my league is better than your league" counterpoint seems petty, as if nothing I've said has any validity or potential reason worth debating.

     

    My league is on its 16th year.  I could go on an equally long tirade against keeper leagues, wouldn't mean everyone in a keeper is playing a subpar version of the game, just means I have logical reasons why I think it is counterproductive.

     

     

    You have reasons, but in the end they are going to be based not on logic but on personal preference. My keeper league has been running since 2001, and we have our reasons for liking it as well. But in the end they aren't 'logical'. They are preference. I also prefer Week 16 championships, but there are people out there who like Week 17, and I'm guessing it's because they like the extra challenge of dealing with Week 17 uncertainties. If they recognize those challenges, and they like those challenges, there's no 'logic' you can give them that will make them say "Oh, yeah, I guess I don't really like what I like". 

     

    Now if someone's playing with certain settings, and they are complaining about certain consequences of those settings, it makes sense to explain how a settings change can help. But if I like oranges, it makes no sense for you to try to 'logically' explain to me why bananas are better.

     

    If you think that preferences are based on rationality, you're gonna have a hard time. 

  7. 38 minutes ago, The_Truth_Returns said:

     

    I knew my opinion would not be popular.  There is probably some truth to all the counter-arguments that you've all made as well.  Good luck to you all this week.

     

    There's no need for counter-arguments. I just think you'll find that people will pretty much always disagree when you tell them that your way of playing a game is better. But good luck to you too :) No ill will.

  8. Just now, JJ1223 said:

    That's the game, man.  If you don't like it, play something else.  I can personally tell you that fantasy baseball is far more skewed towards skill than luck.  Give it a shot.

     

    No, it's better to try to tell everyone else that their way of enjoying the game isn't a good way to enjoy the game. I can't be completely happy playing in my FF leagues unless I know that everyone else in the world is playing it and enjoying it in the same way. My own enjoyment depends on that!

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  9. 32 minutes ago, crotchcrickets said:

    preemptive week 14 rant: in a week where the stars are finally aligning for my team, i have to go up against derrick henry, who already has 47 points against me.

     

    this is the type of luck i've been dealing with all year.

     

    It's apparently going to be a rough week for everyone.

     

    I'm on a bye, and Yahoo says I have a 99% chance of winning.

  10. 1 hour ago, ZappB said:

    I probably had one of the worst teams drafted for a 10-teamer 0.5 PPR, 4th pick:

     

    David Johnson

    Devonta Freeman

    AJ Green

    Jay Ajayi - thought he'd be a great FLEX with Blount gone

    Doug Baldwin - should've been more worried about his knees

    Deshaun Watson - assumed he'd regress but thought 6th round was decent value 

    Delanie Walker

    Kenny Stills - hoping he'd soak up volume with Landry leaving

    Tevin Coleman - thought I had prepared myself for RB busts by going RB heavy

    Agholor - hoping Jeffery would be out longer

    Stafford - my "safe" pick in case Watson was a bust

    Latavius Murray

    Baltimore

    Robbie Gould

     

    I was able to pick up Kittle, Golladay, and Boyd but it wasn't enough.  Danced with Fitzpatrick and Winston too. 

     

    On to the next year and looking forward to reading these forums in the offseason.  

     

    Oof, yeah. No offense, that pretty much looks like the Drop List from an average league this year :) 

     

    Until they run out of guys willing to risk permanent brain damage, there's always next year.

  11. 35 minutes ago, FANattic86 said:

    I’m starting to not like fantasy football anymore. Too much luck and unpredictableness is involved and everyone (even the one’s who dont know squat about football) are experts all of a sudden because of all the multiple fantasy football advice outlets that are available to everyone. I think we should get rid of H2H and go with a total points based leagues with WW restrictions, I have one guy in my league who picks up/drops players almost everyday and it’s annoying. I make the playoffs every year but come playoff time it’s predicted solely on pure luck. 

     

    There's something to the easy accessibility of 'pretty good' analysis just a click away on everyone's phone. Any edge really attentive owners have had via research in the past has been whittled down significantly, that's for sure. Tell me twenty years ago that some dude asleep at the wheel for the last four weeks would suddenly wake up and know immediately to add Jalen Samuels. Wasn't likely to happen back then. 

  12. 6 minutes ago, SheikYerbuti said:

    Phone: HEY HERE'S A STATUS UPDATE! YOUR PLAYER IS HEALTHY!! 

     

    Me: I missed the playoffs in every league. Stop rubbing it in. Piss off.

     

    Phone: HEY HERE'S A STATUS UPDATE! YOUR PLAYER IS HEALTHY!!

     

     

     

    On the other end of the spectrum, I just spent 15 minutes making lineup decisions for my bye week.

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  13. 10 minutes ago, laracco said:

    Had OJ Howard and Jimmy Graham at TE. They both got injured. Picked up Jordan Reed and Jack Doyle. Doyle to IR and Reed hurt as he always is. Picked up Njoku. He's questionable. In a position that is already hard to fill with someone consistent, this is making it increasingly difficult.

     

    If you trade for Kelce I WILL track you down.

     

     

  14. 6 hours ago, parrothead said:

    Whats interesting is that I think originally back pre-internet fantasy football sites, many of the leagues were total points.  I know the first league I ever participated in, in the early 90's, it was total points.  1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1K, 1D/ST - your bench essentially had the same so another QB, 2 more RB's, etc.  It was essentially a TD only league with 3 point bonus for Rushing Receiving 100 yards and passing 300 yards.  There were no waivers, we had a "re-draft' every 3 or 4 weeks where we met back at the draft site and basically went in reverse order of standings, each round you got 1 move.  

     

     

     

    My good friend back in HS in the late 80s ran a total points TD only league. Kept it all in a spiral notebook, watched Sportscenter each night to see who scored. Super low tech, and fun. But I just prefer the smack talk and tension of H2H, even though the 'best' team doesn't always win. I'm okay with that. 

  15. 2 hours ago, Joe Odam said:

    Why do people still play H2H when it clearly does not advance the BEST and most consistent teams into the playoffs? 

     

    Because preferences and opinions vary, and some people find it more enjoyable nonetheless.

     

    If your point is that people who are complaining about H2H screwing them over year after year are on shaky ground for their complaints...I totally agree. :) At the same time--I enjoy H2H a lot, don't enjoy total points as much, and I still reserve the right to vent at those times when I get screwed because of it. Doesn't mean I don't still enjoy it more over all.

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  16. 1 minute ago, dashoe said:

     

    The trade is validated if Dal wins games and executes their offense the way they want, not because Amari catches a bunch of targets looks like a stud and they still lose.

     

     

    If they 'coulda' had him for a 2nd or 3rd, then just winning may not be enough to validate that trade. I mean, Ricky Williams played some good ball for the Saints. But was Ditka validated in giving up 14 first round picks, 20 million in pure heroin, the last living manatee, and the secret to cold fusion just to be able to draft the guy? 

     

    To validate a 1st rounder, Cooper has to clearly be one of the reasons they win. 

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