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  1. 44 minutes ago, Chippa said:

    the steelers didnt have these problems with cowher. Mayse some dirty hits, sure. But nothing where the players are acting like jabronies

    Remember AB filimg himself in the locker room when Tomlin was cutting a speech? He has to stop that stuff before it happens. It's like he's enabling this stuff.

    Greg Lloyd was nuts under Cowher. Bam Morris tried selling all of the drugs. Harrison beat his wife.

  2. Just now, donslaughtonslaught said:

    Sorry man; I jumped into the convo late.  I just know in the Pittsburgh area Tomlin gets a ton of flack, and it isn’t all about football if you know what I mean. Honestly Steeler fans (some of my best friends and family) are annoying, and I get the schadenfreude aspect. I just wish more of it was directed where it belongs, which was basically letting a very talented (but very stupid) QB have too much control of a team.

    I was complaining to you about stuff you didn’t really say. I just do know being in the market that Juju and Chase (while for sure immature, and Juju was way overrated by the Yinzers because they were mad at AB) seem like pretty ok dudes otherwise

  3. 51 minutes ago, thebadferret said:

     

    This was solely about how there have been a lot of clowns on the Steelers over the last years. More than other teams. That the only thing I'm questioning. Nobody said they are bad people.  Maybe it's just me, but if I was on the Steelers and JuJu was dancing on the Logo after the third loss in a row, I'd have a problem with that. 

     

    And coooome on...of corse there are people who did much worse. No need to compare that here. Nobody said that the Steelers are worse than actual crimes. And that the Titans dancing on the logo is a clapback for last season when it was done to them if I remember correct. How is that comparable to JuJu dancing on the team logo before any game? That's off fiel issues you don't find on other teams in that amount. All this was of corse accelerated by the Steelers being without a loss and then becoming cocky. Them blowing their season is just enjoyment for everybody. It's a basic human pleasure. Germans have a word for that: "Schadensfreude".

    Sorry man; I jumped into the convo late.  I just know in the Pittsburgh area Tomlin gets a ton of flack, and it isn’t all about football if you know what I mean. Honestly Steeler fans (some of my best friends and family) are annoying, and I get the schadenfreude aspect. I just wish more of it was directed where it belongs, which was basically letting a very talented (but very stupid) QB have too much control of a team.

  4. 2 minutes ago, PisEdiRin said:

     

    Patrick Mahomes 14-1

    Aaron Rodgers 13-3

    Josh Allen 13-3

    Russell Wilson 12-4

    Lamar Jackson 11-5

    Tom Brady 11-5

    1st ballot HOF Brees = #2 seed in NFC

    1st ballot HOF Ben = #3 seed in AFC

     

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    Deshaun Watson 4-12*

     

     

    *2 wins came versus JAX

    Jared Goff’s trash game and Baker Mayfield: in the playoffs because their teams have good running games and olines and coaching and defenses or some combo of those. None of which the Texans had. And if winning playoff games is a barometer WATSON DID THAT LAST YEAR. Can’t say you aren’t an effective troll.

  5. 5 minutes ago, donslaughtonslaught said:

    Cool dude, good talk. “A quarterback can’t play well if his team loses” is an interesting take. 

    I am pretty sure you are just trolling at this point, but I do want to point out the beauty of you citing PFF for Fuller while saying their third-highest rated QB this year isn’t that good.

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  6. 1 minute ago, PisEdiRin said:

     

    Keeping a team in a game and ultimately losing = meaningless

    Keeping a team in a game and ultimately winning = meaningful

    You keep making meaningless points. In real life, we only care if you won the game or not.

    Cool dude, good talk. “A quarterback can’t play well if his team loses” is an interesting take. 

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  7. 8 minutes ago, PisEdiRin said:

    You're full of excuses.

    If you have to make this many excuses for a QB who just went 4-12 with 2 of his 4 wins coming against JAX.

    Secondly, how did the 49ers do this season with Jimmy G missing most of the season? Exactly. Looks like Golden Boy Kyle Shanahan can't win as a HC unless he has Jimmy G as his QB. No Jimmy G at QB = no winning for Shanahan.

     

    Without Jimmy G and Bosa and Kittle and Dee Ford and Richard Sherman and Deebo. Again, QB is not the only position on the team. Watson single-handedly kept them in games against Tennessee twice and the Colts at least once. He has gone into foxboro and torn it up against Belichick and Brady. Beat Russell Wilson in Seattle. His career is more than just this year (when he was good and his team sucked).

  8. 1 minute ago, PisEdiRin said:

     

    Fuller had a Top 5 WR grade from PFF. 

    Fuller was playing at an incredible level, not because he was playing with Watson.

    I am sure you watch a lot of Texans to have such opinions about Watson, but did you ever notice how many long TDs Fuller gets from Watson scrambling or making a crazy cross-field throw on the money? And are PFF WR grades totally independent of QB play? How would that even work?

  9. 1 minute ago, PisEdiRin said:

    4th team in 4 years

    1st team drafted him with a 1st round pick (Saints)

    2nd team traded a 1st + 3rd round pick to acquire him (Pats)

    3rd team traded a 1st round pick to acquire him (Rams)

    4th team traded a 2nd round pick to acquire him (Texans)

    So of the 4 teams Cooks has played on, 3 teams valued him at a 1st round pick, and 1 team valued him at a 2nd round pick. 

    So basically....4 NFL teams all agree that Brandin Cooks is an excellent WR, hence the draft capital used to get him.

    And his original teams didn’t mind parting with him. I don’t imagine your argument is really “the Hopkins trade was fine, and Watson had comparable weapons once he was gone.” If so you are the first person I have ever seen make it. And on QB wins, I am a 49er fan, and I would never say Jimmy G was a better QB than Watson, Wilson, etc last year just because they won a bunch of games. Coaching, defense, special teams, roster management are all completely out of a QBs hands and have a huge effect on W-L record.

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  10. Just now, donslaughtonslaught said:

    Will Fuller was a top 5 WR PLAYING WITH WATSON. That doesn’t help your argument ha ha ha

    And I don’t care what the texans traded for Cooks because a) Bill O’Brien is an idiot and b) Brandin Cooks is on his fourth team in four years and one concussion away from retirement.

  11. 4 minutes ago, PisEdiRin said:

    Will Fuller was a Top 5 WR in the games he played in 2020 before suspension. Watson was throwing to a Top 5 WR in 11 games. He was still losing with Fuller.

    Brandin Cooks is also an excellent WR. The Texans gave up a 2nd round pick to acquire Cooks. 

    Will Fuller was a top 5 WR PLAYING WITH WATSON. That doesn’t help your argument ha ha ha

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  12. 5 minutes ago, PisEdiRin said:

    Nice job of twisting the narrative.

     

    They 1) Traded for the #1 pure Pass-protecting Left Tackle in football and made him the highest paid OL in the game. In large part because Watson has zero pocket presence and needs to hold onto the ball for 5 seconds, requiring a dominant pass-blocking LT. 2) Replaced Hopkins with a combo of not 1, but 2 WRs (Brandin Cooks, Randall Cobb). They didn't just get rid of Hopkins and not add any WRs.

     

    2 of Watson's 4 wins this season came against the Jaguars, the team with the worst record in football.

    Oh yeah how could I forget they signed Randall Cobb’s corpse. Hate to tell you Hopkins to Cook/Cobb is not a lateral move. Not sure what narrative I was twisting; I think the majority view isn’t “Deshaun Watson is a bad real life QB.”

  13. 14 minutes ago, PisEdiRin said:

    Big Ben led all QBs in Passing Yards on Super Wild Card Weekend. Why is that? Because he fell behind 28-0 and had to pass while playing from behind. 

    So because Ben threw for 501 yards, most of all the QBs, does that mean he was the best QB on Super Wild Card Weekend?

    Stat Pad-ford and Watson are the same QB. Anybody can fall behind by 2+ possessions every game and just spend the rest of the game padding their stats with hollow numbers while losing the game. That doesn't make one an elite QB.

    The most relevant stat pertaining to Watson:

    4-12.

    QBs are judged on Wins and Losses. That's what Football is all about - Winning. Watson won 4 out of his 16 games in 2020. He's great for Fantasy Football, though. Being a great Fantasy QB doesn't make you a great real-life QB.

    Also if he is just padding his stats chucking the ball around he wouldn’t have had an almost 5:1 TD to INT ratio. Ben threw a pick for every TD last week. Throwing to Keke Coutee and Chad Hansen and Brandin Cooks and some random TEs

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  14. 8 minutes ago, PisEdiRin said:

    Big Ben led all QBs in Passing Yards on Super Wild Card Weekend. Why is that? Because he fell behind 28-0 and had to pass while playing from behind. 

    So because Ben threw for 501 yards, most of all the QBs, does that mean he was the best QB on Super Wild Card Weekend?

    Stat Pad-ford and Watson are the same QB. Anybody can fall behind by 2+ possessions every game and just spend the rest of the game padding their stats with hollow numbers while losing the game. That doesn't make one an elite QB.

    The most relevant stat pertaining to Watson:

    4-12.

    QBs are judged on Wins and Losses. That's what Football is all about - Winning. Watson won 4 out of his 16 games in 2020. He's great for Fantasy Football, though. Being a great Fantasy QB doesn't make you a great real-life QB.

    He came from behind to beat this year’s darling Josh Allen in the playoffs last year. It isn’t his fault his coach sucked, his defense was awful, and they traded away his best offensive weapon.

  15. 2 hours ago, markrc99 said:

    Waiting on the Bruins pregame, on The Lombardi Line they said that 89% of the bets were on Green Bay but 69% of the money is taking the points. That Rams defense is built to defend the pass & the Packers struggled to stop the run. 

    Yeah I keep thinking back to last years GB-Niners game, when the Packers got smoked by a team that had no interested in throwing the ball. Obviously a lot has changed since then, but no Baktihari and a still-bad run has me feeling less confident then I did when I first thought the Packers would roll

  16. 16 minutes ago, Chippa said:

    The Steelers have been very clownish the last 5 seasons. 

    No need to be offended that people are trashing the precious Steelers. They’ve always got off easy compared to other organizations.

    Jesus dude I said I am not a Steeler fan. I think pearl-clutching about 22 year old dudes making TikTok videos is silly. You acting twice like I have a personal stake in the Steelers or any of these players is kind of weird though. Just because I disagree with your point doesn’t make me a sheep or whatever.

  17. 12 minutes ago, Chippa said:

    We’re poking fun at a couple of guys for being idiots

    calm down. It’s not the end of the world. Juju and Claypool don’t need your help

    If you are from around Pittsburgh the amount of crap Tomlin gets for stuff out of his control is insane. That guy specifically referenced worries about the organization “turning out clowns.” There are clowns on every team in the league.

  18. On 1/14/2021 at 5:36 PM, Stonej14 said:

    I think ppl are really over exaggerating this. it was dumb and childish but he’s 22 years old I think most of us have said and done much worse at 22.
     

    But hopefully all the hate he’s receiving makes him realize ppl are quick to tear down idols and he keeps it more classy from here on out and I pray he doesn’t become another AB.

    I think, sadly, AB had an actual mental health issue going on. Either Tomlin was really really good at keeping him under control the first few years (and then not good at it at all) or he just went off the deep end pretty much all at once

  19. On 1/15/2021 at 6:48 AM, thebadferret said:

    Bell and Brown have at least multiple all-pro seasons to their name.

    JuJu was on and off and Chase is a rookie.

    Their all clowns, but I can somehow forgive someone who delivered.

     

    Maybe it is time to think about the Steelers organization why they produce clowns like that 🤷‍♂️

    I am not even a Steeler fan, but some of this is so overblown. Joe Namath freaking guaranteed to beat a team and gets lionized for it; juju is by all accounts a great dude and does tons of charity work around the area. Leveon Bell held out for a contract; Steelers and Jets both said he was a good teammate and hard worker.

     

    Javon Belcher murdered his wife and blew his brains out in the team parking lot. Tyreek Hill and Frank Clark are woman-beating pieces of trash. The Chiefs signed the aforementioned Bell. Do we need to worry about their culture? The culture of the Pats for having an actual repeat murderer on their team? The Titans for the whole freaking team or defense of whatever committing the horrible sin of dancing on a logo like Juju?

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  20. 47 minutes ago, Boudewijn said:

     

    You both realise that this affects the 3rd party, right? Which seems unfair.

    Just follow the platform default. I guess it doesn't matter because all parties accepted the current solution, but I feel that making up rules halfway throughout the season is a bad idea. 

    I kind of hope that if anyone tries that triple threat idea they end up with a three way tie in the finals. Then everyone can pick the best random RB getting carries in week 17 or something. Ties are made to be broken, not “oh well these two get to keep going indefinitely.”

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