holyBrowns 483 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Starts talking about Taveras around the 13:35 mark Thanks... And sorry about that, forgot how long the podcast is. Link to post Share on other sites
holyBrowns 483 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 A September call up seems late to me, but I like the chance of someone in that Cardinals outfield getting hurt. Link to post Share on other sites
crotchcrickets 3,230 Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 He will be up WAYYYY before Sept. Link to post Share on other sites
umphrey 211 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I dunno, I think it probably takes 2 injuries to get him up, and even then, probably only after the super 2 deadline. Link to post Share on other sites
ballfan4141 265 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 beltran is dealing with an injury. holliday has missed sometime and jon jay.....might get a quick call to play in the mlb out of nowhere. Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Bat Theory 7,581 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 If you had to choose -- all things being equal as in exact same call-up dates -- would you choose Taveras or Wil Myers or a third OF prospect like Yasiel Puig, etc, etc? Which has more power? Which more speed? Which more a balance of both? From what I've read here, Taveras has the power but not the speed? I'm curious especially vs Myers since Yahoo rankings have them listed one right after the other. And who do you think is more likely coming up first? As in how married are the Cards to Jon Jay if Beltran starts out solid? Or TB getting around to promoting Myers. Or those flush and money flashing new owners in LA wanting to bring up their fancy new prospect. Or Yelich in Miami cause that team is out of contention before Opening Day. I know the control for an extra year stuff plays into this too but I don't know how or which OF can come up when. Is Taveras having to wait to June or could he come up earlier if Beltran goes down. Link to post Share on other sites
MrMartyBarrett 562 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 All things considered, I believe Taveras is the superior overall prospect. I know Puig is the trendy pick right now, but he's not on par with the other 2....yet. I believe Myers will ultimately hit for more HR than Taveras long term, but I don't think it's by much. Taveras can flat out rake, has at every level, and has an uncanny ability to barrell up the baseball. Even though he's a bit of a free swinger, he makes much more contact than Myers does. Wil will steal more bases and likely have more HR, but Taveras' numbers in his prime will consistenly be (in my opinion) that of a perennial all-star. I worry about Myers' K rate at the MLB level, and don't think his average will ever be high. Puig is intruging, but the sample size is just too small right now to see what he actually can do. Link to post Share on other sites
crotchcrickets 3,230 Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share Posted March 22, 2013 yea to add, Taveras has a 10% k-rate while Myers is right around 25% Link to post Share on other sites
baltimore_boy 833 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I rank the 4 of them as Taveras, Myers, Puig, then Yelich a little bit lower. Taveras and Puig will put up more homers and Myers and Yelich will steal more. However, Taveras is superior overall to the rest of them. Link to post Share on other sites
Posting In The Clutch 1,920 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I'd be willing to bet Puig steals a lot more than Myers. Link to post Share on other sites
clutchcityfan 178 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 · Hidden by RotoRaysfan, March 25, 2013 - No reason given Hidden by RotoRaysfan, March 25, 2013 - No reason given I just drafted Taveras in my keeper league. Myers went at 119, and I landed Taveras at 246, so I think I got good value there. Do you guys think Taveras will be worth keeping in a league where we keep 10 players (with no penalties, so everyone keeps their best)? Link to post
ballfan4141 265 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 with beltran already battling injuries this guy has to be called to the mlb. he already can hit mlb pitching. Link to post Share on other sites
holyBrowns 483 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 with beltran already battling injuries this guy has to be called to the mlb. he already can hit mlb pitching. they're gonna play him wherever he gets the most at bats, if beltran is injured enough to get taveras the at bats, I think he will be Link to post Share on other sites
natti 264 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 with beltran already battling injuries this guy has to be called to the mlb. he already can hit mlb pitching. they could play craig in rf and adams at 1b. i hope they don't though Link to post Share on other sites
Sean-O 200 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 The kids talent is undeniable but STL is one of those teams that seems to have a lot of guys that are interchangeable. Does it make sense to have him play a couple of times a week in the bigs or everyday at AAA? Link to post Share on other sites
natti 264 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 beltran is back in the lineup today. however, holliday is now banged up Link to post Share on other sites
crotchcrickets 3,230 Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 The kids talent is undeniable but STL is one of those teams that seems to have a lot of guys that are interchangeable. Does it make sense to have him play a couple of times a week in the bigs or everyday at AAA? Everyday at the AAA. He won't come up to be a benchplayer. Link to post Share on other sites
Skrappy1 15 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Anyone still holding out hope that he's going to make the Cardinals out of Spring Training can stop hoping. There's an article on the Cardinals' website that says he's already been informed that he will be sent down to AAA today. http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130328&content_id=43453600¬ebook_id=43454774&vkey=notebook_stl&c_id=stl Link to post Share on other sites
CollinBluffs 5 Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Anyone following this guy already knew yesterday lol Link to post Share on other sites
holyBrowns 483 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Beltran already playing with a broken toe, shouldn't be too long before the ol fella goes down Link to post Share on other sites
auri 41 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Beltran already playing with a broken toe, shouldn't be too long before the ol fella goes down Would love to see the Cardinals call him up at the end of April similarly to what happened with Harper/Trout last year. In a hypo, what would be a realistic stat line for a May callup? .280, 12 HRs ROS? Link to post Share on other sites
dorsett33 128 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I would say that would be the floor for Taveras with an early call up. I can envision something like .295 18-25 HR with consistent playing time with his other #'s good as well(RBI, R, OBP). Its time for the kid to mash major league pitching...nothing left for him to prove at the Triple A level. Link to post Share on other sites
Jericho 497 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I would say that would be the floor for Taveras with an early call up. I can envision something like .295 18-25 HR with consistent playing time with his other #'s good as well(RBI, R, OBP). Its time for the kid to mash major league pitching...nothing left for him to prove at the Triple A level. That's overly optimistic. First, Taveras has spent zero days in AAA, so the idea he has nothing left to prove is false. He's proven nothing. Second, Taveras really has not hit for a ton of HRs in his career. The 23 he hit last year were by far a career high (he never topped double digits before). He profiles as more of a solid hitter with doubles power initially. The thought is that he would grow into power. While your stat projectionis theoretically possible, I'd say getting a .280, 12 HR line would be pretty good. I'd say his floor is much lower. Your line is more like his ceiling. He may indeed be ready for the majors, but he's far from a certain return. Link to post Share on other sites
holyBrowns 483 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Apparently Beltran is really struggling with covering ground in the outfield Link to post Share on other sites
IG-88 165 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Apparently Beltran is really struggling with covering ground in the outfield You could have written this last year. Or the year before that too. As long as Beltran hits, he plays. Link to post Share on other sites
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