ssmarsh 26 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I know all 3 of his starts have been against Seattle, but he's looked pretty good so far. Thoughts on him over the entire season? Link to post Share on other sites
shadyridr 186 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 picked him up after his first start, started him for his second start, dropped him after his second start Link to post Share on other sites
ssmarsh 26 Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 Too bad since he pitched great yesterday. I see him as a matchup guy. His next start is at LA so that may be a bench situation. Link to post Share on other sites
juice219 40 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Too bad since he pitched great yesterday. I see him as a matchup guy. His next start is at LA so that may be a bench situation. Really??? With the way the Angels are hitting?? No way, start him w confidence. Link to post Share on other sites
deezpac 6 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 if i remember correctly, in his second start, Cespedes badly misplayed a ball in center that he should have caught but didn't which helped lead to the big inning. the play wasn't ruled an error so all the runs counted against Colon. i'm not saying Colon is great but he's serviceable in deeper leagues especially when at home or against teams like seattle Link to post Share on other sites
2ndCitySox 4,733 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 if i remember correctly, in his second start, Cespedes badly misplayed a ball in center that he should have caught but didn't which helped lead to the big inning. the play wasn't ruled an error so all the runs counted against Colon. i'm not saying Colon is great but he's serviceable in deeper leagues especially when at home or against teams like seattle I love the last sentence Colon is serviceable when pitching in giant parks against awful hitters Link to post Share on other sites
My Dinner With Andre 5,814 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 He put up a 7.18 K/9, 3.3 K/BB, and a 3.64 xFIP while pitching in the AL East. Now he pitches in Oakland. Link to post Share on other sites
kidtwentytwo 5,517 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I wouldn't be surprised if he hits a wall the longer the season goes. His value may never be this high again. Link to post Share on other sites
umgoblue2008 49 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Dude is dealing tonight, crazy movement on the 2 seamer, mixed with the 4 seamer and a good change-up. Link to post Share on other sites
Wombat 1,532 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 One of his starts is not like the others. Guess which one I streamed him in. Fat @$$!! Link to post Share on other sites
TheWash4President 23 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 38 Strikes in a row... That was nuts. Link to post Share on other sites
ssmarsh 26 Posted April 19, 2012 Author Share Posted April 19, 2012 Really??? With the way the Angels are hitting?? No way, start him w confidence. I started him and am glad I did. Bartolo!! Link to post Share on other sites
grimsfield 922 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 when will he implode? will he implode? (he will won't he?!?!) Link to post Share on other sites
juice219 40 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 One of his starts is not like the others. Guess which one I streamed him in. Fat @$$!! Had 1 bad inning to date. Is this for real?? Can he be at least above average the rest of the way? Link to post Share on other sites
kidtwentytwo 5,517 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I expect him to fade as the season goes on. He will probably be traded as well. Link to post Share on other sites
juice219 40 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I expect him to fade as the season goes on. He will probably be traded as well. You just killed my buzz man. I play in an AL only league, and a trade to the NL would suck!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
kidtwentytwo 5,517 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Someone who has been in the league as long as the has usually has a no trade clause to certain teams in his contract. Not sure what his contract says though. Link to post Share on other sites
mjb03003 1,974 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 He was somehow still available in my 12 team h2h league. Looking at last year, Colon was pretty filthy in the first half of the season - 3.20 ERA, 1.14 WHIP, 79 Ks in 90 IP - and then he wore down and was nowhere near as effective in the second half - 4.96 ERA, 1.47 WHIP, 56 Ks in 74.1 IP. I think he's the kind of guy you use as long as he's pitching well and dump when his Ks tail off and he starts getting hit harder. Last year that happened around early-to-mid August. Link to post Share on other sites
yoda 1,083 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Health is the major concern. Like others have said, he will probably wear down as the season goes on. He throws 90% fastballs so it's hard to imagine he will be this successful. Hard to get away with one pitch consistently for that long. Link to post Share on other sites
mjb03003 1,974 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Health is the major concern. Like others have said, he will probably wear down as the season goes on. He throws 90% fastballs so it's hard to imagine he will be this successful. Hard to get away with one pitch consistently for that long. I hear you on that. I watched the 38 straight strikes highlight and a few of those pitches were hit hard. Pujols and Wells each hit one to the warning track, and Aybar had a rocket of a ground-rule double. But it seemed like Colon was throwing 2 different fastballs. Someone with more knowledge of pitch types can correct me if I'm wrong, but it looked like he was throwing primarily a four-seamer which had a good amount of movement left to right, and also a two-seamer that is straighter but he throws it on a downward plane which I think can be a very effective pitch if he keeps it down. I wonder if he will also start to incorporate more of his slider a bit more (he threw it 12% of the time last year, less than 8% of the time this year). He's the kind of wiley vet who I would trust to know his own arsenal and use what's working. The fact that he was successful over a 15 start stretch last season gives me more confidence that this isn't a total mirage. Link to post Share on other sites
battle2heaven 813 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Colon has been throwing only fastballs for his whole career. Link to post Share on other sites
myzto 83 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Colon has used and abused the M's and made a good start in between his Mariners game. I think he puts up one more good game in April and then cools down. Max value while you can. If you really believe in Colon and think it's a legit start, then you have to assume he gets traded to a contender in the second half. I don't see it, but if u do - then I hold on for the ride. Link to post Share on other sites
mjb03003 1,974 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Colon has used and abused the M's and made a good start in between his Mariners game. I think he puts up one more good game in April and then cools down. Max value while you can. If you really believe in Colon and think it's a legit start, then you have to assume he gets traded to a contender in the second half. I don't see it, but if u do - then I hold on for the ride. I just wonder how you completely overlook the fact that he had a very solid first half (15 starts) last year including a bunch of good starts in that Yankee Stadium bandbox. It's not like he's incapable of carrying a ~3.00 ERA for a few months. he also had stem cell therapy on his elbow and shoulder so he's basically a bionic man at this point. Link to post Share on other sites
myzto 83 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I just wonder how you completely overlook the fact that he had a very solid first half (15 starts) last year including a bunch of good starts in that Yankee Stadium bandbox. It's not like he's incapable of carrying a ~3.00 ERA for a few months. he also had stem cell therapy on his elbow and shoulder so he's basically a bionic man at this point. Age, weight, 2006-2010 time period. He had a good first half last year, but I did not believe that it's something he'll do for all of last season or for half of this season. If you believe he can rock that sub 3.00 ERA for a few months, then he's a good first half trade candidate wouldn't you say? I wouldn't be fooled by him looking good by how he made the Mariners look dumb 2 out of 3 starts and then beating a slumping Angel's team. In my mind, I want to make a trade with you to and send you Colon for the top value I can receive back. If you're you, then you definitely want to take advantage of the situation. Link to post Share on other sites
mjb03003 1,974 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Age, weight, 2006-2010 time period. He had a good first half last year, but I did not believe that it's something he'll do for all of last season or for half of this season. If you believe he can rock that sub 3.00 ERA for a few months, then he's a good first half trade candidate wouldn't you say? I wouldn't be fooled by him looking good by how he made the Mariners look dumb 2 out of 3 starts and then beating a slumping Angel's team. In my mind, I want to make a trade with you to and send you Colon for the top value I can receive back. If you're you, then you definitely want to take advantage of the situation. I don't see him as the kind of guy you can really "sell high" on unless you are in a league with inexperienced owners. To me, he's the kind of guy who is capable of giving you very solid numbers for a while and then he'll eventually be droppable. Most people will realize that and they'll refuse to pay for his services. I plan to use Colon for as long as he's useful and then dump him for some other waiver wire gem. Over the course of the season I'll probably get SP3 or SP4 numbers out of a string of pickups that way. Link to post Share on other sites
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