ColtsBaby!! 149 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Barden on the BENCH?!?!? WTH??? I don't know if you know this Robrain, but he's 6'6" Digging your teams btw. Good luck today Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MeisterT 804 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Wow...About 3 posts into the Greg the Leg thread, I'm guessing the majority of us figured out the joke. I'm coming in here exactly like "those guys" in the Greg the Leg thread. So I don't know should I add him to join in the debate?? Lol Something about putting my money where my mouth is: Everyone best be buying this lottery ticket right. NOW. and the Mantooth Award goes to...Robrain, for going all in across the board on the all-time flier of fliers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Clueless 6 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 This is seriously the best... thread... ever You must not have been around for the Ryan Torrain thread 2 years ago.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cmilne23 10,559 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BallDontLie 334 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 This is seriously the best... thread... ever You must not have been around for the Ryan Torrain thread 2 years ago.... Nothing will ever top the Torain Train! But the Legatron thread is pretty close. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cmilne23 10,559 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Can we have a mod delete this thread so we can forget how much time was wasted debating a crappy Arizona runner? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wombat 1,532 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 2 carries for 2 yards 2 catches for 6 yards. Anddddd crickets. Not that those numbers should surprise anyone who looked at the situation logically. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uri_76 38 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 haha. 20 pages. you win some, you lose some Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robrain 3,283 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 He really wasn't much worse than Ryan Williams, and Ryan Williams was also pulled from the game in all no huddle / 2-minute offensive formations (which they ran a LOT), in favor of William Powell. Kevin Kolb was uncharacteristically forcing his throws downfield instead of checking down when the deep routes were covered, which is why there were so few dumpoffs to the RB's. Game stats: Ryan Williams: 13 carries, 26 rushing yards 1 reception, 0 receiving yards William Powell: 2 carries, 2 rushing yards 2 receptions, 6 receiving yards If you want to get technical, Ryan William's yards per touch average = 1.857142857142857 William Powell's yards per touch average = 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Br0kenB 1,943 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 If you want to get technical, both players are a**. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robrain 3,283 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I don't think we've seen enough out of William Powell just yet to say that, to be honest. We've seen Ryan Williams pretty consistently underperform when given carries. Powell has only been given 2 carries so far. It would not surprise me if the coaching staff gave Powell a bigger test drive next game, for the simple reason that Ryan Williams was unable to get anything going on the ground when given the carries this game. That underperformance contributed to the Cardinals being unable to sustain drives and run down the clock. It would not surprise me at all to see a more even timeshare next week, with the coaching staff feeding Powell if it turns out that he's got the hot hand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cmilne23 10,559 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 (edited) The Cardinals line is not good, did you watch defenders swimming through the backfield on almost every running play? There run block sucks, there personnel upfront sucks. You can get all fluffy over some article saying they are trying to stick together all you want, but at the end of the day you have to be honest and objective in your analysis otherwise you may end up letting players in a better situation get away from you. Its a longshot Arizona has a consistent running game this year given there O-Line. Edited October 1, 2012 by Cmilne23 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panthor 813 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I don't think we've seen enough out of William Powell just yet to say that, to be honest. We've seen Ryan Williams pretty consistently underperform when given carries. Powell has only been given 2 carries so far. It would not surprise me if the coaching staff gave Powell a bigger test drive next game, for the simple reason that Ryan Williams was unable to get anything going on the ground when given the carries this game. That underperformance contributed to the Cardinals being unable to sustain drives and run down the clock. It would not surprise me at all to see a more even timeshare next week, with the coaching staff feeding Powell if it turns out that he's got the hot hand. why is it necessary to make excuses. the guy was viewed as a lotto ticket in case williams go hurt. he didn't. end of story. why does it matter that powell diid nothing today? he wasn't suppose to without williams going down. honestly making excuses just looks silly and makes it his supporters look like they are grasping at straws 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Proteus 3,799 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Homeboy, throw in the towell, Your team got d*cked by Billy Powell. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
predator_05 3,374 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 swing and a miss. 0/2 for rotoworld: 1. dwyer and 2. willy powell OUCH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Br0kenB 1,943 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Proteus, I feel like we would be best friends. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fredth3cat 334 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Powell has now touched a football over 50 times in his entire life!!! Fantasy football stud!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panthor 813 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 just an observation but his biggest cheerleader is no where to be found Quote Link to post Share on other sites
owenmills 5,327 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Let's just drop it. Yeah maybe later in the year he emerges as something fantasy useful, stranger things have happened I suppose. But right now he's just another turd on the waiver wire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robrain 3,283 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 (edited) I don't think we've seen enough out of William Powell just yet to say that, to be honest. We've seen Ryan Williams pretty consistently underperform when given carries. Powell has only been given 2 carries so far. It would not surprise me if the coaching staff gave Powell a bigger test drive next game, for the simple reason that Ryan Williams was unable to get anything going on the ground when given the carries this game. That underperformance contributed to the Cardinals being unable to sustain drives and run down the clock. It would not surprise me at all to see a more even timeshare next week, with the coaching staff feeding Powell if it turns out that he's got the hot hand. why is it necessary to make excuses. the guy was viewed as a lotto ticket in case williams go hurt. he didn't. end of story. why does it matter that powell diid nothing today? he wasn't suppose to without williams going down. honestly making excuses just looks silly and makes it his supporters look like they are grasping at straws You guys clearly missed the reason I was interested in him, then. Yes, a Ryan Williams injury will be the fastest way to propel William Powell into the driver seat, but I consider Powell a speculative hold in case Ryan Williams cedes touches to William Powell. That will likely occur if Ryan Williams continues to consistently underperform. The more Ryan Williams underperforms, the more touches William Powell will get if he performs well with them. I'm quite happy with the turn of events this game. Ryan Williams basically did nothing to solidify his grip on the starting job. If anything, underperforming 3 out of 4 games only loosens his grip on the starting job, regardless of William Powell's performance. This game wasn't about William Powell breaking out. For William Powell owners, this game was all about Ryan Williams not breaking out. I got exactly what I was hoping for. I don't know what the rest of you were hoping for. =========== Basically: 12 carries for 24 yards = enough carries to be considered an underperformance Decreasing Ryan Williams' stock accordingly. We'll call this -1. 2 carries for 2 yards isn't enough carries to make any real conclusion on. He didn't fumble, he didn't do anything crazy. That means William Powell's stock neither increased nor decreased from where it was. So his "value" remains at 0. Ryan Williams: -1 William Powell: 0 As far as how that will affect the carry split in future games, I believe that should only help William Powell. Edited October 1, 2012 by Robrain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kobe24 597 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 if i miss out on my waiver wire targets i think im gonna hold him 1 more week. williams looked garbage and powell didnt get enough touches even though he was on the field for a good amount of plays. that o line did look bad tho Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panthor 813 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I don't think we've seen enough out of William Powell just yet to say that, to be honest. We've seen Ryan Williams pretty consistently underperform when given carries. Powell has only been given 2 carries so far. It would not surprise me if the coaching staff gave Powell a bigger test drive next game, for the simple reason that Ryan Williams was unable to get anything going on the ground when given the carries this game. That underperformance contributed to the Cardinals being unable to sustain drives and run down the clock. It would not surprise me at all to see a more even timeshare next week, with the coaching staff feeding Powell if it turns out that he's got the hot hand. why is it necessary to make excuses. the guy was viewed as a lotto ticket in case williams go hurt. he didn't. end of story. why does it matter that powell diid nothing today? he wasn't suppose to without williams going down. honestly making excuses just looks silly and makes it his supporters look like they are grasping at straws You guys clearly missed the reason I was interested in him, then. Yes, a Ryan Williams injury will be the fastest way to propel William Powell into the driver seat, but I consider Powell a speculative hold in case Ryan Williams cedes touches to William Powell. That will likely occur if Ryan Williams continues to consistently underperform. The more Ryan Williams underperforms, the more touches William Powell will get if he performs well with them. I'm quite happy with the turn of events this game. Ryan Williams basically did nothing to solidify his grip on the starting job. If anything, underperforming 3 out of 4 games only loosens his grip on the starting job, regardless of William Powell's performance. This game wasn't about William Powell breaking out. For William Powell owners, this game was all about Ryan Williams not breaking out. I got exactly what I was hoping for. I don't know what the rest of you were hoping for. =========== Basically: 12 carries for 24 yards = enough carries to be considered an underperformance Decreasing Ryan Williams' stock accordingly. We'll call this -1. 2 carries for 2 yards isn't enough carries to make any real conclusion on. He didn't fumble, he didn't do anything crazy. That means William Powell's stock neither increased nor decreased from where it was. So his "value" remains at 0. Ryan Williams: -1 William Powell: 0 As far as how that will affect the carry split in future games, I believe that should only help William Powell. i don't think anyone missed anything. he is a lotto ticket, it's been said many times. and it is silly to make excuses when lotto ticket players who haven't gotten their break perform bad in limited action. it only servers to weaken your position Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rdubs23 258 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I don't think we've seen enough out of William Powell just yet to say that, to be honest. We've seen Ryan Williams pretty consistently underperform when given carries. Powell has only been given 2 carries so far. It would not surprise me if the coaching staff gave Powell a bigger test drive next game, for the simple reason that Ryan Williams was unable to get anything going on the ground when given the carries this game. That underperformance contributed to the Cardinals being unable to sustain drives and run down the clock. It would not surprise me at all to see a more even timeshare next week, with the coaching staff feeding Powell if it turns out that he's got the hot hand. why is it necessary to make excuses. the guy was viewed as a lotto ticket in case williams go hurt. he didn't. end of story. why does it matter that powell diid nothing today? he wasn't suppose to without williams going down. honestly making excuses just looks silly and makes it his supporters look like they are grasping at straws You guys clearly missed the reason I was interested in him, then. Yes, a Ryan Williams injury will be the fastest way to propel William Powell into the driver seat, but I consider Powell a speculative hold in case Ryan Williams cedes touches to William Powell. That will likely occur if Ryan Williams continues to consistently underperform. The more Ryan Williams underperforms, the more touches William Powell will get if he performs well with them. I'm quite happy with the turn of events this game. Ryan Williams basically did nothing to solidify his grip on the starting job. If anything, underperforming 3 out of 4 games only loosens his grip on the starting job, regardless of William Powell's performance. This game wasn't about William Powell breaking out. For William Powell owners, this game was all about Ryan Williams not breaking out. I got exactly what I was hoping for. I don't know what the rest of you were hoping for. =========== Basically: 12 carries for 24 yards = enough carries to be considered an underperformance Decreasing Ryan Williams' stock accordingly. We'll call this -1. 2 carries for 2 yards isn't enough carries to make any real conclusion on. He didn't fumble, he didn't do anything crazy. That means William Powell's stock neither increased nor decreased from where it was. So his "value" remains at 0. Ryan Williams: -1 William Powell: 0 As far as how that will affect the carry split in future games, I believe that should only help William Powell. William Powell is your brother and/or you played HS football with him. We get it... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yanksman 3,781 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 He was on the field alot and he looked like a good pass blocker. Thats all I saw Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robrain 3,283 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Some of you seem to think that a lotto ticket is strictly a one-week hold. I think that's a good way to miss out on a valuable player if you drop them too soon. Randall Cobb and Travaris Cadet are two others that could be good holds. They might not be blowing up right this instant, but they very well could shortly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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