moeron22 282 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Forgot where I read it but swinging at maximum effort repeatedly like at home run derbies (vs. only at intervals of at bats) can have long term negative effects to power and timing due to muscle, joints, and tendon fatigue or memory or some crap. To those that question how HR derby is different from AA games: In games you don't swing for the fences every AB and you rest for up to an hour between swings. I really need to dig up the article. It's quite old though. Anyway, you try swinging a wooden bat at maximum effort for 20-30 swings with minimal rest in between and see how your arms and shoulders feel afterwards. Again, how is that any different than the batting practice he takes on a daily basis? Link to post Share on other sites
young dude 534 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Forgot where I read it but swinging at maximum effort repeatedly like at home run derbies (vs. only at intervals of at bats) can have long term negative effects to power and timing due to muscle, joints, and tendon fatigue or memory or some crap. To those that question how HR derby is different from AA games: In games you don't swing for the fences every AB and you rest for up to an hour between swings. I really need to dig up the article. It's quite old though. Anyway, you try swinging a wooden bat at maximum effort for 20-30 swings with minimal rest in between and see how your arms and shoulders feel afterwards. Again, how is that any different than the batting practice he takes on a daily basis? Same concept, it's not repeated maximum effort. Doesn't matter really, it's just something I read a while back and could be baloney for all that matters. Bryant is a special kid and I'm a Cibs fan in Chicago so just hoping for the best. Link to post Share on other sites
Doctor L 954 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 How is the HR derby any different than the batting practice he takes daily? Or any AA game he plays for that matter? because they don't swing for the fences there and it's more natural There's zero evidence to suggest a home run derby is bad for a hitter. Some people do great after the derby, some people do bad, some people perform the same. It's a game of streaks and slumps. Link to post Share on other sites
moeron22 282 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Forgot where I read it but swinging at maximum effort repeatedly like at home run derbies (vs. only at intervals of at bats) can have long term negative effects to power and timing due to muscle, joints, and tendon fatigue or memory or some crap. To those that question how HR derby is different from AA games: In games you don't swing for the fences every AB and you rest for up to an hour between swings. I really need to dig up the article. It's quite old though. Anyway, you try swinging a wooden bat at maximum effort for 20-30 swings with minimal rest in between and see how your arms and shoulders feel afterwards. Again, how is that any different than the batting practice he takes on a daily basis? Same concept, it's not repeated maximum effort. Doesn't matter really, it's just something I read a while back and could be baloney for all that matters. Bryant is a special kid and I'm a Cibs fan in Chicago so just hoping for the best. I'm just saying, you don't think some of these guys have a BP session every once in a while, on like a Saturday morning before a night game, where they play Derby against their teammates? McGwire used to put on a show most pre-games, and the few times I've seen Stanton take BP it seemed like he was competing with himself to see how far he could hit the ball. To me, that whole argument is silly. Link to post Share on other sites
GJDHouse 1,028 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Bryant also doesn't need max effort to hit a home run. Link to post Share on other sites
landobate 30 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Kris Bryant has reportedly been promoted to AAA according to 670 the Score...Chicago's sports radio Link to post Share on other sites
ProspectAddict 12 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 @CarrieMuskat 5m Kris Bryant is headed to @IowaCubs. #Cubs Shouldn't be much of a challenge. Link to post Share on other sites
Onions 98 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 @KrisBryant_23: Can't wait to join the @IowaCubs tomorrow! Thank you to @smokiesbaseball and all my teammates for so many great memories! Link to post Share on other sites
blinkfan77 177 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 And boom goes the dynamite! Link to post Share on other sites
IlliniGuy76 1,124 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 So much for the "There's not way this guy sees AAA" stuff we've seen on about 5 pages of this thread, eh? Link to post Share on other sites
Posting In The Clutch 1,920 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 So much for the "There's not way this guy sees AAA" stuff we've seen on about 5 pages of this thread, eh? I don't think anyone said that. It was more there is no way the Cubs bring him up before Super 2 passes next year unless they sign him to an extension in the offseason. Link to post Share on other sites
PPolanco 1,216 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Not sure how I feel about Manny Ramirez coaching him Link to post Share on other sites
IlliniGuy76 1,124 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 So much for the "There's not way this guy sees AAA" stuff we've seen on about 5 pages of this thread, eh? I don't think anyone said that. It was more there is no way the Cubs bring him up before Super 2 passes next year unless they sign him to an extension in the offseason. You may want to go back and re-read a few of these pages on that. Saying that, it's great to see Bryant join Alcantara and Baez at AAA. Link to post Share on other sites
GJDHouse 1,028 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Are they going to play him in the OF or at 3b? Link to post Share on other sites
IlliniGuy76 1,124 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Are they going to play him in the OF or at 3b? Good question. Villanueva is playing third at AAA. I'd be surprised if they stop playing him at third. Link to post Share on other sites
BackwardsKRay 197 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 The Cubs could be ridiculous in two years. The NL Central is starting to look like the NFC West in terms of talent. Link to post Share on other sites
mastermin(d)esign 176 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 The Cubs could be ridiculous in two years. The NL Central is starting to look like the NFC West in terms of talent. that's kinda what happens when you suck for so long. Link to post Share on other sites
Posting In The Clutch 1,920 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 The Cubs could be ridiculous in two years. The NL Central is starting to look like the NFC West in terms of talent. Eh, no pitching. They should have a good lineup, though. Link to post Share on other sites
IlliniGuy76 1,124 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 The Cubs could be ridiculous in two years. The NL Central is starting to look like the NFC West in terms of talent. Eh, no pitching. They should have a good lineup, though. They'll trade a prospect or two to get a pitcher. Shark will net them one, if not two, 1-3 pitchers (he should net them an elite pitching prospect that's close to ready, and one very good one that's close to ready). They'll sign a free agent. Couple that with a few of their minor leaguers who should be up. I HOPE that is the plan. The fun part is going to see how good Byant can be. Link to post Share on other sites
ProspectAddict 12 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Just hit his 1st AAA HR. The 1st of many. Link to post Share on other sites
I watch baseball 40 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Just hit his 1st AAA HR. The 1st of many. I wish it was only the first of few, as I'd like to see him up in the big leagues before the season is over Link to post Share on other sites
2ndCitySox 4,462 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I give about a 1 in 10,000 chance Bryant is called up this year. Don't get your hopes up. Link to post Share on other sites
Doctor L 954 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Interestingly enough he played 3B in his Triple A debut. A potential good sign for his future fantasy value. Link to post Share on other sites
mrkrab 64 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I give about a 1 in 10,000 chance Bryant is called up this year. Don't get your hopes up. He will be up this year. Hard to hold back the number 1 prospect in all of baseball. Nobody else is the game is on his tier either. Link to post Share on other sites
Phina11y 363 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I give about a 1 in 10,000 chance Bryant is called up this year. Don't get your hopes up. He will be up this year. Hard to hold back the number 1 prospect in all of baseball. Nobody else is the game is on his tier either. I'd say joey gallo Link to post Share on other sites
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