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4 to 6 iu ed is sufficient. Most people take it 5 days on 2 days off at their designated dosage. There is no reason or evidence why you cannot stay on for various lengths of time; there is no need to go 5 on 2 off other than cost. Considering that our natural production is only .5 to 1.5iu a day, this is still a huge bump for the body. Research has shown that the body's natural defence systems render mega doses of GH ineffective, anyway. GH does not cause gains in mass...it allows you to put on a great deal of lean mass in combination with proper steroid and insulin use. The user before taking must know this. One or two kits are not enough, you need at least 3 to make you happy, GH takes a while to make its effects, but remember they are long lasting, what you see is what you keep. It takes 6 to 8 weeks to notice a dramatic change in body comp using GH on an ED or 5/2 split. Lighter doses for long periods of time are better than large doses for short cycles. Like any other drug, the more you take the more the benefits, but likewise also more risks. 4-6 iu is a standard dose but many people take more, the most repulsing side effects happen at or beyond 12 iu a day but like anything else it depends on your predisposition for it.

How to Stack:

GH is best taken in conjunction with insulin, anabolic steroids, and t3. Insulin is extremely effective with GH, as anyone here who has tried it will testify. This is because GH injections cause a down regulation of insulin sensitivity in the body.

GH alone causes little growth of lean mass, however, when combined with insulin and steroids (and IGF-1 if you can find it), the results can be down right remarkable...esp. in the older bodybuilder. Start light with the humulin...5iu...and work up 1 iu a day till you get use to it. 7 to 10iu in the AM and 7 to 10 iu in the late afternoon, with split doses of GH is your best bet. When splitting GH/insulin doses, I use mid-morning and late afternoon after lifting.... both flat times in our natural GH production. The insulin overcomes the insulin-resistance caused by exogenous GH supplementation. If you are scared to take insulin thought, then Gh with Test and Glucophage is good. GH is good for cutting if used alone. Glucophage allows for improved glucose and amino acid absorption by the muscle tissue and does it safely. This is what you want. The half-life of GH is only 2 hours so spread it out. Avoid bedtime injections since we produce the bulk of our own GH in the first two hours of sleep. Since exogenous GH suppresses this, you should not take it before bed. For best results, use a 17aa oral during the cycle to stimulate the release of natural insulin growth factors. I would run the test throughout. GH/insulin/test is the proven synergistic combination.

It is also wise to preload with testosterone before starting GH if you are going to do it. You should preload with the amount of time it takes for that testosterone to kick in, since most of us take longer acting esters for testosterone you should usually start taking the test 2 weeks before GH use. Likewise, you can accommodate it to fit your needs; the key is for the test to be kicking in the same time you are starting to run your GH. You can cycle you steroids however you want to depending on your goals, if you are going for a more massive look than you would run insulin for most of the cycle and use high androgens, but if you are looking for additional leanness at the end of a cycle you should stop the androgens and run a higher dose of GH or run less androgens. T3 is also another substance that should be used during GH cycling since GH lowers thyroid hormones. T3 should be used for shorter periods though, because it can permanently alter the endocrine system. The magic of GH for men is the ability to gain mass without fat or bloating when stacked properly with insulin, and steroids. GH also makes for amazing improvements in skin...smoothes wrinkles, burns stubborn spots of adipose tissue, gives that paper-thin contest look...and also gives one a real mood lift, a feeling of well being.

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She actually nailed Clemens - She basically said a reasonable person would have fired the guy, but Clemens kept him on as a trainer? WHY?? Because McNamee was his drug hook-up.

Also lying to the media means nothing. Of course Mcnamee is going to lie to the friggin media.

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Also Clemens talking to his former nanny before turning her name over is scandalous. I love his lawyer jumping up like whack-a-moles whenever Clemens is cornered. The committee has trouble getting her name, they request that Clemens and co not talk to her before she talks to the committee, however before they get around to giving them her name, Clemens invites her over to his house and discusses his testimony and then his investigators question her BEFORE they give her name to the committee? In the court of law, that is a HUGE red flag.

Clemens excuse is that he hasn't seen her in years and the delay in giving her name because out of the goodness of his heart he was trying to track her down for the committee. Yeah, like the federal government couldn't have tracked her down without your hep Roger. He was having trouble tracking her down was the delay and he wasn't going to give up her name without first talking to her.

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4 to 6 iu ed is sufficient. Most people take it 5 days on 2 days off at their designated dosage. There is no reason or evidence why you cannot stay on for various lengths of time; there is no need to go 5 on 2 off other than cost. Considering that our natural production is only .5 to 1.5iu a day, this is still a huge bump for the body. Research has shown that the body's natural defence systems render mega doses of GH ineffective, anyway. GH does not cause gains in mass...it allows you to put on a great deal of lean mass in combination with proper steroid and insulin use. The user before taking must know this. One or two kits are not enough, you need at least 3 to make you happy, GH takes a while to make its effects, but remember they are long lasting, what you see is what you keep. It takes 6 to 8 weeks to notice a dramatic change in body comp using GH on an ED or 5/2 split. Lighter doses for long periods of time are better than large doses for short cycles. Like any other drug, the more you take the more the benefits, but likewise also more risks. 4-6 iu is a standard dose but many people take more, the most repulsing side effects happen at or beyond 12 iu a day but like anything else it depends on your predisposition for it.

How to Stack:

GH is best taken in conjunction with insulin, anabolic steroids, and t3. Insulin is extremely effective with GH, as anyone here who has tried it will testify. This is because GH injections cause a down regulation of insulin sensitivity in the body.

GH alone causes little growth of lean mass, however, when combined with insulin and steroids (and IGF-1 if you can find it), the results can be down right remarkable...esp. in the older bodybuilder. Start light with the humulin...5iu...and work up 1 iu a day till you get use to it. 7 to 10iu in the AM and 7 to 10 iu in the late afternoon, with split doses of GH is your best bet. When splitting GH/insulin doses, I use mid-morning and late afternoon after lifting.... both flat times in our natural GH production. The insulin overcomes the insulin-resistance caused by exogenous GH supplementation. If you are scared to take insulin thought, then Gh with Test and Glucophage is good. GH is good for cutting if used alone. Glucophage allows for improved glucose and amino acid absorption by the muscle tissue and does it safely. This is what you want. The half-life of GH is only 2 hours so spread it out. Avoid bedtime injections since we produce the bulk of our own GH in the first two hours of sleep. Since exogenous GH suppresses this, you should not take it before bed. For best results, use a 17aa oral during the cycle to stimulate the release of natural insulin growth factors. I would run the test throughout. GH/insulin/test is the proven synergistic combination.

It is also wise to preload with testosterone before starting GH if you are going to do it. You should preload with the amount of time it takes for that testosterone to kick in, since most of us take longer acting esters for testosterone you should usually start taking the test 2 weeks before GH use. Likewise, you can accommodate it to fit your needs; the key is for the test to be kicking in the same time you are starting to run your GH. You can cycle you steroids however you want to depending on your goals, if you are going for a more massive look than you would run insulin for most of the cycle and use high androgens, but if you are looking for additional leanness at the end of a cycle you should stop the androgens and run a higher dose of GH or run less androgens. T3 is also another substance that should be used during GH cycling since GH lowers thyroid hormones. T3 should be used for shorter periods though, because it can permanently alter the endocrine system. The magic of GH for men is the ability to gain mass without fat or bloating when stacked properly with insulin, and steroids. GH also makes for amazing improvements in skin...smoothes wrinkles, burns stubborn spots of adipose tissue, gives that paper-thin contest look...and also gives one a real mood lift, a feeling of well being.

That looks all and good but you should have quoted where you got it from to make it credible.

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I'm done with threads where I'm forced to prove correct theory to the cut and paste crowd. My research is indepth and conclusive. I won't convince those not in the know otherwise. People can simply choose to believe whatever they want to believe.

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I'm done with threads where I'm forced to prove correct theory to the cut and paste crowd. My research is indepth and conclusive. I won't convince those not in the know otherwise.

A-Men.

A-F*ckin'-Men.

Even if you F'n live it, breathe it, it don't matter to the folks that "know" they're right.

We had a cat tell a Doctor in these Forums that HE was wrong about HGH just last week. So...

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ZARA you have said NOTHING except NO you are wrong. So what makes you right and me wrong? Just because you say so?

There's about a zillion threads on this forum where I've spewed my facts both about steroids and HGH. I simply don't feel the need to rehash all my proof. It's tiring at this point. You can do a search on this site and find the many posts where I've contradicted and proven many people wrong. It's just simpler if you look there.

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ZARA you have said NOTHING except NO you are wrong. So what makes you right and me wrong? Just because you say so?

He, and I, and Rotobronco wrote posts at great length directly refuting the sort of assertions (EDIT) you are proffering.

YOU don't know what YOU'RE talking about. PERIOD.

Go surf your websites and buy what you're looking to buy. You're not shopping anywhere that sells a different product.

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There's about a zillion threads on this forum where I've spewed my facts both about steroids and HGH. I simply don't feel the need to rehash all my proof. It's tiring at this point. You can do a search on this site and find the many posts where I've contradicted and proven many people wrong. It's just simpler if you look there.

Right: Use the advanced search function. Problem is HGH is just 3 letters, so use "hormone", that ought to work.

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ZARA you have said NOTHING except NO you are wrong. So what makes you right and me wrong? Just because you say so?

There are many threads about the effects of 'roids & HGH. We can rehash those threads & continue to beat this dying horse.

And a reminder to all that we have a Code of Conduct, so let's debate points & do not bash one another.

Now back to bashing Clemens, please. Thanks!

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Is anyone else tired of the brown-nosing by the Congressmen? I mean, he's under oath as a suspect for criminal activity, put the baseball fan in you aside for a day and do your job.

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This is like a big farse. Its flip flopping back and forth. They are all lying, fry em !! lol

Yeah seriously this is rediculous, Im glad this representative is yelling at both of them. Get them B!tches!

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I hate to admit it...but McNamee is *SOMEWHAT* telling the truth.

It sucks that all these guys are turning out to be scumbags.

I think we should ship Clemens, Pettite, and McNamee all off to some secluded island and let them work it out.

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I'm watching the hearing live online and i am starting to feel bad for Clemens. He's coming off as quite pathetic at this point. I agree, it is completely absurd that this is what the "government" is focusing on. We're in a war right now (that has no end in sight) and this is what's considered front page/top story news.

This just happened as I'm watching it:

Mr. Braley: Have you ever been a vegetarian?

Clemens: I have not.

Mr. Braley: Have you ever been a vegan?

Clemens: Um, (awkward pause) I'm sorry I don't know what that is.

oh, Roger.

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This just happened as I'm watching it:

Mr. Braley: Have you ever been a vegetarian?

Clemens: I have not.

Mr. Braley: Have you ever been a vegan?

Clemens: Um, (awkward pause) I'm sorry I don't know what that is.

]

Yea Clemens keeps pausing everytime he starts speaking, but Im glad Braley went after both guys and told McNamee he should be telling kids that steroids/HGH are bad for your body.

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I hate to admit it...but McNamee is *SOMEWHAT* telling the truth.

It sucks that all these guys are turning out to be scumbags.

I think we should ship Clemens, Pettite, and McNamee all off to some secluded island and let them work it out.

The difference is, McNamee has nothing to lose by telling the truth, while Clemens has everything to lose.

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