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It is about that time of the year for some owners to swallow their pride and admit defeat and start planning for next year. Who are some players that you are looking to trade for or stash away for the 2017-2018 season?

 

Despite the poor performances recently, I am going to hang on to Kenneth Dixon until the bitter end.

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Well, since this thread derailed very quickly I'll try to get it back on track.  I'm currently last and have been in talks with some teams about potential keepers for next year.  Jay Ajayi, Derrick Henry (before his injury this weekend), Jordan Howard, and Dak Prescott are all guys on my radar.  

 

I picked up and stashed Corey Coleman three weeks ago for the sole purpose of having him for a potential keeper next year.

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5 minutes ago, exzacly909 said:

Best "stash" for keeper/dynasty to me is Josh Doctson.

 

Watch any of this film and the guy is a baller. Both Desean and Garçon are free agents at the end of season and that is a passing offense. He is a top 15 Wr waiting to happen. 

 

I thought about doing this but you'll most likely get a chance to draft him at 10+ next year anyway. 

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yep I like Doctson next year as well although who knows what the Wash QB situation might be

 

here is who I have as the best stash that is completely untalked about 

 

Andre Ellington will be a free agent at the end of the year, with such a small work load over the last year and a half, I think he can be a great addition as a COP to quite a few teams

 

I could for example see him in the Woodhead role in SD, Minnesota as a 3rd down guy behind AP if back (Mckinnon and Asiata are garbage for real), NYG as a potential lead back, Tampa as a Martin replacement, Carolina as a JStew replacement, Indy to replace/backup the ageless one

 

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50 minutes ago, exzacly909 said:

Best "stash" for keeper/dynasty to me is Josh Doctson.

 

Watch any of this film and the guy is a baller. Both Desean and Garçon are free agents at the end of season and that is a passing offense. He is a top 15 Wr waiting to happen. 

 

Is Crowder not the guy to target in D.C.?

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Is Crowder not the guy to target in D.C.?

 

Not to me he isn't.. At least not long term. I am actually a Crowder fan and he has played really well this season. If the skins let both or either garcon/desean walk then I think both should have nice roles. 

 

The skins offense and Cousins attack the middle of the field and that is where crowder and Reed have been killing it. So crowder should settle in as a Edelman type. Doctson should be a red zone monster.. He can jump with anyone. I'm just saying long term and even as soon as next season Doctson could be the guy to own in that offense.. Jreed included.

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Kevin White.  There's a decent chance Alshon Jeffrey is not back with the team next year and this guy could be the #1 receiver on the team.  He showed flashes this year before getting hurt.

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Michael Thomas is looking like a solid keeper candidate depending on where you landed him. The way things are looking for him this year he could potentially net you high end WR2 numbers next season at the cost of a late round pick.

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I'd go with the usual SPARQ guys and positions in the organization where you see the aging. Kevin White, Breshad Perriman, Chris Conley, Tyler Lockette, Hunter Henry. Any young receiver on the Cardinals. J Brown x2, JJ Nelson.

 

I'd consider Lasco in NO. They usually cycle through RBs for example: PT cruiser, Reggie Bush Sproles days, to Chris Ivory, Khiry Robinson, Ingram, now they have Hightower as a returning journey man. Next up they are grooming Lasco and Cadet is the Sproles role. Saints have cap issues. That could be more of a 2018 season play.

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My possible keeper candidates (Pick 2), the prices I think are fairly reflective of other leagues:

Derek Carr - $1 - Derek has shown he can perform at a high level in only his 2nd year in the league. He makes Michael Crabtree look like a Top 5 league WR, and can throw for yards and yards against crappy defenses. Doesn't get rattled in games either.

 

DeMarco Murray - $33 - For everyone who was down on Murray last year and got him for cheap, he has rebounded in a huge way with double digit points every week of this season.

 

Theo Riddick - $1 - Can catch passes out of the backfield and has a high RB1 ceiling when he's getting touches. Is in Detroit for another three years, though it remains to be seen after injuries if he will get as many catches going forward next season. Regardless, he's still solid gold in PPR leagues and has a nice RB2 floor for a cost that's far cheaper than other RBs out there.

 

Other guys I like:
Jay Ajai - Has absolutely exploded in Miami, he's getting touches and getting touchdowns, and was a waiver wire claim for most this year.

Michael Thomas - Rookie who's getting big red zone targets and yardage from Drew Brees. With one of the best QB situations in the league, he's got a lot to look forward to in coming seasons.

Michael Crabtree - Derek Carr's Number 1 option has had a resurgence across the bay. Was had for cheap in a lot of drafts this year.

Giovanni Bernard - Went for $4 in my league which is low, but is a solid #2 back who gets goal line touches and touchdowns.

Jamison Crowder - Young WR who's getting targets and making the most of his time in Washington. The QB situation is not the greatest, but Kirk Cousins can air the ball out. He's got potential going forward for sure, and his numbers look good so far through this year.

 

While I doubt many will be willing to trade Murray, I think everybody else listed could be wrangled away for the right price depending on the league and who is in contention.

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10 hours ago, Golden Spikes said:

yep I like Doctson next year as well although who knows what the Wash QB situation might be

 

here is who I have as the best stash that is completely untalked about 

 

Andre Ellington will be a free agent at the end of the year, with such a small work load over the last year and a half, I think he can be a great addition as a COP to quite a few teams

 

I could for example see him in the Woodhead role in SD, Minnesota as a 3rd down guy behind AP if back (Mckinnon and Asiata are garbage for real), NYG as a potential lead back, Tampa as a Martin replacement, Carolina as a JStew replacement, Indy to replace/backup the ageless one

 

Generally if I'm keeping somebody, I'm not looking to keep a third down change of back specialist.  But every league is different.  Andre Ellington is somebody who you could get in double digit rounds as a throwaway pick.

 

The problem with a lot of the guys listed here (Michael Thomas, Ajayi, Derrick Henry, Howard, Prescott, Hunter Henry, Crabtree..) is that they are already owned in almost every league.  They are actually productive right now.  Nobody who owns them who is trying to make the playoffs is going to give them up.

 

Kevin White will likely go higher than he should in next year's drafts just based on name value, so perhaps if you like him you could take a chance on him now.

 

Hopefully a Perkins or Dixon will emerge which makes them a great keeper stash.

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9 hours ago, CooL said:

Generally if I'm keeping somebody, I'm not looking to keep a third down change of back specialist.  But every league is different.  Andre Ellington is somebody who you could get in double digit rounds as a throwaway pick.

 

The problem with a lot of the guys listed here (Michael Thomas, Ajayi, Derrick Henry, Howard, Prescott, Hunter Henry, Crabtree..) is that they are already owned in almost every league.  They are actually productive right now.  Nobody who owns them who is trying to make the playoffs is going to give them up.

 

Kevin White will likely go higher than he should in next year's drafts just based on name value, so perhaps if you like him you could take a chance on him now.

 

Hopefully a Perkins or Dixon will emerge which makes them a great keeper stash.

 

I am not saying you have to keep him.  You just stash him now, like a CJ Prosise, like a Dixon or Perkins and see if he lands in an ideal situation, if not drop him

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9 hours ago, CooL said:

Generally if I'm keeping somebody, I'm not looking to keep a third down change of back specialist.  But every league is different.  Andre Ellington is somebody who you could get in double digit rounds as a throwaway pick.

 

The problem with a lot of the guys listed here (Michael Thomas, Ajayi, Derrick Henry, Howard, Prescott, Hunter Henry, Crabtree..) is that they are already owned in almost every league.  They are actually productive right now.  Nobody who owns them who is trying to make the playoffs is going to give them up.

 

Kevin White will likely go higher than he should in next year's drafts just based on name value, so perhaps if you like him you could take a chance on him now.

 

Hopefully a Perkins or Dixon will emerge which makes them a great keeper stash.

 

I agree with your assessment.  I guess everyone comes here for different things, but lot of this stuff seems like it shouldn't even need to be said. 

 

Yeah, if you have Jay Ajayi, it's wise not to dump him on the wire no matter what happens...

 

When I look at these threads I look at someone who might be mostly irrelevant right now that can be a top 40 ADP next year in PPR drafts.

 

Guys that fit my mold right now:

 

Kevin White - if Alshon is allowed to walk, Kevin White would become defacto man in Chicago HOWEVER, since KW has had 2 seasons to prove he is good enough to allow Alshon to walk and him take over and has FAILED COMPLETELY.  I doubt that he becomes the defacto #1 now and I don't believe this will happen anymore.

 

Paul Perkins - Rashad Jennings has a 50/50 chance to be in the 2017 plans.  With him gone, obviously a giant opportunity opens

 

Cameron Artis Payne - Jonathan Stewart is due $8.25 M next season.  That's a lot of money to pay a RB in the NFL who isn't regarded as "elite talent".  If they allowed him to walk than CAP definitely has opportunity.  I believe they might just restructure his deal though.  We will see.

 

This is all I see as of today, and of them, I am confident of none.  Kevin White owned in my league.  Perkins I already own.  CAP I will pick up after I'm eliminated from playoffs just in case.  

 

 

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Agree with the above. Kevin White is becoming a Devante Parker fantasy unicorn. (What ever happened to that Axe Elf guy who kept touting him as a top 15 WR?) He's had two seasons now both ending in injury. And never really got a true assessment of his talent. Not sure if I want to hitch my train to an oft injured unproven player.

 

Every league is different. Some appear to be in auction keepers where you can keep guys for cheap. Some can keep as many as they want by giving up picks in rounds. Some can only keep one or two players each year. I find threads like this helpful for identifying those guys who aren't great now but might be great next year. David Johnson was a prime example from last year. I just don't see anybody so far of that caliber and in a situation that will promote fantasy goodness.

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The big question I'm facing right now is at what point do you try to sell your top tier talent to plan for next year. At 2-7 I'm probably not making the playoffs. 

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23 minutes ago, dre said:

The big question I'm facing right now is at what point do you try to sell your top tier talent to plan for next year. At 2-7 I'm probably not making the playoffs. 

 

This is where I'm at ...I'm trying to find trade deals that still keep the league competitive this year but help me next year...

 

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12 minutes ago, JSA2422 said:

 

This is where I'm at ...I'm trying to find trade deals that still keep the league competitive this year but help me next year...

 

 

 

Right on.  I've been talking with the top team in the league trying to broker a deal for two of his RBs.  He wants me top WR in exchange.  It could be a good deal for me as the two RBs would cost me a 13th and 7th rd pick next year and I probably wouldn't be keeping my top WR next year anyways.  However, this WR could essentially make his team unbeatable and I'm not sure I want that.  haha  

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40 minutes ago, dre said:

The big question I'm facing right now is at what point do you try to sell your top tier talent to plan for next year. At 2-7 I'm probably not making the playoffs. 

 

It all depends on the type of person you are and your keeper structure.

 

There are many different levels of keeper rules and the structure defines everything IMO.  

Some people will never quit, some people will make an "educated decision", some will play spoiler, everyone is different, and only you can answer that question.

 

Good luck with whatever decision you make.

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