jwblue 169 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Not too much negative to say about Scherzer's 2016 season. Only question is when the inevitable decline begins. Personally too much risk for my taste where I know he will be drafted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueJaysIn2030 1,981 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 49 minutes ago, jwblue said: Personally too much risk for my taste where I know he will be drafted. How? The guy has 5 years of 200+Ks, 4 years of 200+ IP, and has a 3.09ERA/2.96FIP/3.15xFIP in 164GS. He has an 89-34 over 1079IP. 10.70K/9 2.24BB/9 since 2012. Since 2012: 1st in W 2nd in GS 2nd in IP 3rd in K/9 13th in ERA (by the way, Kershaw has a 2.02ERA since 2012 - 1043IP... holy smokes) 3rd in K-BB% 4th in WHIP 4th in SIERA 1st in SO (not even close... he has 1283, Kershaw at 2nd has 1173) 2nd in WAR for you WAR lovers The guy is amazing. There's a legit argument to be made that he's a late 1st rounder/should be taken right after Kershaw. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Members_Only_76 7,322 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 agree, not seeing the risk, K's are insane, seems durable, love how he plays the game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mysonx3 3,674 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 He's one of the least risky players there is Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzy_Slippers 4,023 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Not a risk. His FB velocity hasn't declined, it was actually slightly faster last season than it has been since 2008. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skoodog 489 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Please God let this "stress fracture on his pitching hand" be just an excuse to avoid the WBC. Quote NL Cy Young Award winner Scherzer injured a finger on his pitching hand and will miss the World Baseball Classic. The Washington Nationals announced Monday on Twitter that their star right-hander has a stress fracture in the knuckle of his right ring finger. The team said the ongoing rehabilitation will keep Scherzer off the U.S. team at the WBC, which is in March, but he is still ''expected to be a full participant'' at spring training, which starts next month. Scherzer went 20-7 with a 2.96 ERA and 284 strikeouts last season, including a record-tying 20 in one game, for the NL East champion Nationals, becoming the sixth pitcher in major league history to win AL and NL Cy Youngs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
taobball 7,483 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) Considering the five above posts, I'm accusing all of you of being guilty of second degree jynxing. Edited February 16, 2017 by taobball Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TedStriker 276 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Too early to panic but it feels like whenever I see these hand/finger issues pop up they always seem to hang around and become a problem. The fact that he won't dismiss it is also worrisome. Hopefully it's nothing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skoodog 489 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I read somewhere that he pitched through it for half the year last year, but yes...dark wings, dark words. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XxxOilOverloadxxX 1,958 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 this is how it starts this is how it starts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kidtwentytwo 5,513 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Usually guys come into camp in the greatest shape of their lives and spewing positivity so when a guy says this you can't help but be a little concerned Quote Link to post Share on other sites
96GOAT 197 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 My first reaction was panic. But, after reading some comments, he's just "not committing" to opening day. I think this is being blown out of proportion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwblue 169 Posted February 17, 2017 Author Share Posted February 17, 2017 3 hours ago, kidtwentytwo said: Usually guys come into camp in the greatest shape of their lives and spewing positivity so when a guy says this you can't help but be a little concerned Exactly! How often do players hint at anything negative coming into a season? NEVER. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kidtwentytwo 5,513 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 He went for 32, 36, 38, 38, 43 in auctions last night. Was taken 14th overall in a draft. Still 2nd pitcher off board Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzy_Slippers 4,023 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, kidtwentytwo said: He went for 32, 36, 38, 38, 43 in auctions last night. Was taken 14th overall in a draft. Still 2nd pitcher off board I would still be fine with taking him in the early second round. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
taobball 7,483 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I think it's more likely he missses a start or two than he has a debilitating deficiency for the entirety of the season. I do adjust values slightly because at that level the margin of error for players or margin between players is razor thin. I'm probably still taking him SP2, but maybe I take him much closer to Bumgarner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mevins31 1,346 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 He had it since last August. Not sure if that's good or bad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mysonx3 3,674 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I'll probably bump him from late round 1 to early round 2, but not more. Not like we're talking an elbow/shoulder issue or even a back Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzy_Slippers 4,023 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 6 hours ago, mysonx3 said: I'll probably bump him from late round 1 to early round 2, but not more. Not like we're talking an elbow/shoulder issue or even a back This. He has always been an early second round pick for me, so that won't change. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rdf8585 244 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 The good news is there's 5-6 weeks before opening day. The bad news is these finger type injuries can linger and become a real nuisance. Certainly not as bad an elbow or shoulder issue, but not ideal at all. You don't want him hurting his elbow/shoulder by trying to compensate for a bum finger. I could see bumping him down just a tad, but I wouldn't get too worked up about the issue (yet). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XxxOilOverloadxxX 1,958 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Throwing off a mound on Saturday signs are pointing up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jfazz23 2,543 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 yahoo is saying hes throwing some sort of 3 finger fastball because 2 fingers hurts his fracture not sure if things are pointing up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
colepenhagen 3,590 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 yep went sp6 in my big money league still went mid 2nd but people are obviously worried and im staying away could be huge steal/gamble if you can get him late 2nd/early 3rd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Call me Red 205 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Threw a bp session today. No issues reported. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Thing 85 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Wait... so he's got a fractured knuckle??? That's not good. Welcome to my avoid list. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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