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10 minutes ago, Members_Only_76 said:

Pedro got 8 games for a similar situation back in 1996.

 

 

Dang, only 8?  Seems very light.  I guess you can all be happy that Bryce will probably get 8 then. 

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21 minutes ago, jdbob11 said:

Find me incidents where a player actually struck someone with equipment, it doesnt happen, but if it ever did there is going to be a HEAVY suspension and he came close to it.  The only thing I can remember in recent history is that guy who used his hockey stock as a weapon and that was a lengthy time gone. 

Not that recent but Marichal hit Roseboro over the head with a bat. Roseboro was catching at the time and buzzed Jaun with the throw back to Koufax.

 

Google it as it makes interesting reading.

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Not even speaking as a Harper owner here, but Strickland should get like double the games Harper gets. If they want fighting out of the game they need to correct the root cause, not the result.  Pitchers plunk batters on purpose fairly often and get no punishment, but then a batter goes out to stick up for himself and gets a big suspension to boot. Not exactly a deterrent for pitchers to stop instigating this BS. 

 

Give Strickland like 20 games and maybe pitchers think twice about throwing at guys like a coward. Most of the time they know they can plunk a guy and nobody can retaliate against them directly. Send the message the league isn't going to tolerate it anymore. 

 

Either that or no suspensions for anyone and tell everyone fighting and plunking are both fair game and even the playing field. See how tough some of these pitchers are when they know the batter will be coming to the mound swinging instead of having to walk angrily to 1st. 

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7 minutes ago, lavaman said:

Harper is a real good player....but it really seems to me that every year he is over-hyped. I'd take several players over this guy, even as good as he is.

6th rated hitter in fantasy this year, and that's without a stolen base to his name. Do you watch baseball?

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5 minutes ago, handyandy86 said:

Not even speaking as a Harper owner here, but Strickland should get like double the games Harper gets. If they want fighting out of the game they need to correct the root cause, not the result.  Pitchers plunk batters on purpose fairly often and get no punishment, but then a batter goes out to stick up for himself and gets a big suspension to boot. Not exactly a deterrent for pitchers to stop instigating this BS. 

 

Give Strickland like 20 games and maybe pitchers think twice about throwing at guys like a coward. Most of the time they know they can plunk a guy and nobody can retaliate against them directly. Send the message the league isn't going to tolerate it anymore. 

 

Either that or no suspensions for anyone and tell everyone fighting and plunking are both fair game and even the playing field. See how tough some of these pitchers are when they know the batter will be coming to the mound swinging instead of having to walk angrily to 1st. 

There's precedent for this, as Yordana was suspended much longer than Machado, as it was viewed that he was the sole instigator. Seems most agree that Strickland was here too. We'll see.

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Just now, Backdoor Slider said:

6th rated hitter in fantasy this year, and that's without a stolen base to his name. Do you watch baseball?

Of course I watch baseball. What I'm saying is that he is hyped so much you'd think he's Mike Trout or something. If you read my last post I said he's a real good player.

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28 minutes ago, Backdoor Slider said:

There's a union. They appeal suspensions. He'll play tonight.

Thanks for that condescending reply!! What I thought just wanted some input since I can't stalk lineups all night. 

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1 minute ago, mmcc1029 said:

Thanks for that condescending reply!! What I thought just wanted some input since I can't stalk lineups all night. 

There was no condescension intended in that reply. Was just answering your question. Next time I'll put a smiley face?  ?

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2 minutes ago, lavaman said:

Of course I watch baseball. What I'm saying is that he is hyped so much you'd think he's Mike Trout or something. If you read my last post I said he's a real good player.

No. In fact, the opposite is true.  Because Mike Trout is so ridiculously good, people don't recognize the greatness of Bryce Harper. MVP at 22. 25 career WAR, despite injuries, and still YOUNGER than this year's likely rookie of the year, Aaron Judge. It's insane. 

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5 minutes ago, Backdoor Slider said:

There's precedent for this, as Yordana was suspended much longer than Machado, as it was viewed that he was the sole instigator. Seems most agree that Strickland was here too. We'll see.

 

I get that you can't always know there's intent, but there are lots of situations where you know it was intentional. I don't think anyone would argue this one was accidental. 

 

Can't count the number of times I'm watching baseball and the announcer says "so and so had to be expecting some retaliation". If the announcers can call it before it happens then the guy should probably get a lengthy suspension to deter it. 

 

Not to mention pitchers don't play every day, so in most cases a 3-5 game suspension is basically just equal to 1 game's PT missed. 

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16 minutes ago, Fiveohnine said:

Brett Laurie threw his helmet at an ump, hit him with it, and only got 4 games. Of course there was no fight though. 

He fired it into the ground and it bounced and hit the ump.  He didnt raise it and swing it in the umps direction. 

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