Iron-cock 10,329 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, boltup15 said: I think it's time people realize they can't predict injury... 3 hours ago, Iron-cock said: Only 5 players in the past 27 seasons had Rushing Att >= 290 and Receptions >= 75. Of those 5, only 1 played 16 games and didn’t regress. That player is: LaDanian Tomlinson When a player is getting tackled 400 times in one season, it’s hard to expect their body to recover, even with a full offseason of rest (or rehab in DJ’s case). 19 minutes ago, boltup15 said: Yes... was including the hits they take from pass blocking. Not a single rb had 400 touches last season... Nobody is talking about pass blocking other than you, and god knows for what reason. Feel free to point me to a website with pass blocking stats. Yes DJ only had 373 touches. Not 400. Huge difference, right? Regardless, large workloads often aren't repeatable and the 400 touch thing is common fantasy knowledge if you've been playing for awhile: http://www.footballguys.com/06yudkin_400touches.php https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/2015-fantasy-football-draft-prep-400-touch-running-backs/ Edited September 12, 2017 by Iron-cock Link to post Share on other sites
boltup15 1,471 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Iron-cock said: Nobody is talking about pass blocking other than you, and god knows for what reason. Feel free to point me to a website with pass blocking stats. Yes DJ only had 373 touches. Not 400. Huge difference, right? Regardless, large workloads often aren't repeatable and the 400 touch thing is common fantasy knowledge if you've been playing for awhile: http://www.footballguys.com/06yudkin_400touches.php https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/2015-fantasy-football-draft-prep-400-touch-running-backs/ I don't know what you're trying to argue about... I agree large workloads are hard to repeat. All I was saying is RB's get hit all the time whether it's running, receiving or pass blocking. I pulled the 400 # out of my ***. You're thinking too hard about this 400 number.. Edited September 12, 2017 by boltup15 Link to post Share on other sites
Iron-cock 10,329 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, boltup15 said: I pulled the 400 # out of my ***. Link to post Share on other sites
Thinkingcap 77 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 23 minutes ago, tts42572 said: Well....I think many are assuming the Cards will be terrible without DJ. If they're out of the division and playoff picture when he's ready to return, why bring him back? This is just terrible. I own DJ in one league and I think I'd really rather just have him out for the year so I could comfortably drop and move on. Is it time to label DJ as injury prone yet? The knee last year and now this? It's probably too early for that as this is a pretty fluky injury but it's going to take awhile for me to get over the sting of this injury. 1) DJ wants to play 2) Fans want to see him play = ticket sales 3) Bruce Arians doesnt seem like the type of coach who would just give up unlike Todd Bowles 4) The type of injury sustained by DJ is not a type that could be aggravated Link to post Share on other sites
KennyWoo 3,319 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, Thinkingcap said: 1) DJ wants to play 2) Fans want to see him play = ticket sales 3) Bruce Arians doesnt seem like the type of coach who would just give up unlike Todd Bowles 4) The type of injury sustained by DJ is not a type that could be aggravated If they were going to decide to shut Johnson down, the organization (not the coach) would likely be making the call. Link to post Share on other sites
Conscious Pilot 294 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 3 hours ago, sasnumberonefan said: I'm no doctor, but shouldn't a dislocation be -easier- to heal than, say, a broken or fractured bone? Anyone smarter than me care to weigh in on the topic? Nope. A break is easier to heal. This is worse, hence the need for surgery Link to post Share on other sites
ccsae 294 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Between now and week 9 , they get IND and SF twice.. and LAR. I know they suck without DJ, but hopefully they are still in the playoff picture or close to it.. Link to post Share on other sites
CamNewton 755 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Is he worth buying cheap for playoffs? Link to post Share on other sites
lavaman 747 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 minute ago, CamNewton said: Is he worth buying cheap for playoffs? ALWAYS. Link to post Share on other sites
Thinkingcap 77 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 hour ago, ccsae said: Between now and week 9 , they get IND and SF twice.. and LAR. I know they suck without DJ, but hopefully they are still in the playoff picture or close to it.. Indeed, except that one IND will have Luck playing as a QB. Next week should be a must win for the Cards.. Link to post Share on other sites
TexasBlueMoon 51 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites
TTo34 2,950 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Just now, TexasBlueMoon said: To hold or not to hold? That's Link to post Share on other sites
Thinkingcap 77 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Wtf.. Xmas? That is 16 weeks. Link to post Share on other sites
burninglegs 10,836 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, TexasBlueMoon said: I don't like the sound of that..... Link to post Share on other sites
BearDownBears 38 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TexasBlueMoon said: Wtf, that's literally 15 weeks from now and that sounds like best case scenario. Why would they say 2-3 months and then turn around and say this? Edited September 13, 2017 by BearDownBears Link to post Share on other sites
street sharks 3,238 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Lmao there's no way it would take that long for something like this to heal Link to post Share on other sites
Chase4181 21 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Arians is the same guy who put him back in after the injury. I don't trust anything he does or says Link to post Share on other sites
jstep13 2,433 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) Dude is not playing this year Edited September 13, 2017 by jstep13 Link to post Share on other sites
burninglegs 10,836 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, street sharks said: Lmao there's no way it would take that long for something like this to heal ??? He needs surgery. TJ Logan had the same injury and is out for 12 weeks. Link to post Share on other sites
Woonga24 1,100 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 So his first game back would be first week of fantasy playoffs? lol Link to post Share on other sites
dakimbell 1,041 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) If i didnt trade him not sure i could have dropped.. but even if he did come back week 16, that is against the giants, so not ideal.. tough situation Edited September 13, 2017 by dakimbell Link to post Share on other sites
dakimbell 1,041 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Bruce Arians is the worst Link to post Share on other sites
My Dinner With Andre 5,743 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites
Conscious Pilot 294 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 31 minutes ago, burninglegs said: ??? He needs surgery. TJ Logan had the same injury and is out for 12 weeks. Folks in this thread are doing their best to ignore this. 12 weeks is very much in play. Hold him or fold him. Team's with shallow benches have decisions to make. Link to post Share on other sites
TTo34 2,950 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 25 minutes ago, My Dinner With Andre said: What exactly are you trying to tell us with this data? Half the current RBs weren't even in the league in 2015. Link to post Share on other sites
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