DerrickHenrysCleats 5,893 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, cothane said: Am I correct in this timeline? He's eligible to come off IR on the Tuesday leading up to week 10. He can't practice at all during this time. The Cards have a Thursday night game that week, so it's basically impossible that he would play week 10. Yes? Yes, week 11 is his best case scenario. Link to post Share on other sites
Gohawks 10,075 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, cothane said: Am I correct in this timeline? He's eligible to come off IR on the Tuesday leading up to week 10. He can't practice at all during this time. The Cards have a Thursday night game that week, so it's basically impossible that he would play week 10. Yes? No after 6 weeks you can practice. Link to post Share on other sites
cothane 201 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Gohawks said: No after 6 weeks you can practice. Do you have a source on that? I think you might be thinking of the PUP list. I can't find anything that says you can practice on IR. Link to post Share on other sites
phizzics 1,007 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 46 minutes ago, cothane said: Do you have a source on that? I think you might be thinking of the PUP list. I can't find anything that says you can practice on IR. I don't usually use Wiki as a source, but I've checked elsewhere and this seems to be accurate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Injured_reserve_list The relevant part... "Starting in 2012, the NFL and the NFLPA reached an agreement allowing one player placed on injured reserve to be brought back to the active roster.[3] Provided that the player was on the final 53-man preseason roster (A rule exempted for the 2012 season), and that the injury is deemed to keep this player unable to practice or play football for an estimated six weeks, the player may be allowed to practice after Week 6, and be activated to play after Week 8.[4] As of 2017, teams may now return two players from injured reserve after Week 8.[5]" Link to post Share on other sites
cothane 201 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 11 minutes ago, phizzics said: I don't usually use Wiki as a source, but I've checked elsewhere and this seems to be accurate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Injured_reserve_list The relevant part... "Starting in 2012, the NFL and the NFLPA reached an agreement allowing one player placed on injured reserve to be brought back to the active roster.[3] Provided that the player was on the final 53-man preseason roster (A rule exempted for the 2012 season), and that the injury is deemed to keep this player unable to practice or play football for an estimated six weeks, the player may be allowed to practice after Week 6, and be activated to play after Week 8.[4] As of 2017, teams may now return two players from injured reserve after Week 8.[5]" Gracias. Appreciate it. Link to post Share on other sites
SharkSwimmer 4,902 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 phizzics-- Thanks for the reminder about how the I.R. list works. Johnson can practice for several weeks prior to being activated for his week 10 game. That's what New England did with Dion Lewis last year. By the time Lewis was ready for game action, he had been "Wally Pipped" by James White. I see no one on Arizona's roster who will do that to Johnson here in 2017, however. Link to post Share on other sites
cothane 201 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 19 minutes ago, SharkSwimmer said: phizzics-- Thanks for the reminder about how the I.R. list works. Johnson can practice for several weeks prior to being activated for his week 10 game. That's what New England did with Dion Lewis last year. By the time Lewis was ready for game action, he had been "Wally Pipped" by James White. I see no one on Arizona's roster who will do that to Johnson here in 2017, however. Although six weeks would still be inside the minimum 8-week recovery time frame, so he might not be doing any real "practicing". Link to post Share on other sites
Del Rio 509 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Let the inane offers for him in dynasty commence... Link to post Share on other sites
cothane 201 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I've been getting a bunch of offers in a redraft league. Very hard to gauge his value. Link to post Share on other sites
burninglegs 10,836 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 (edited) I'd rather be stubborn and holdout and him not come back than be an idiot and drop him and watch him come back in 8 weeks and wish I had him in my lineup. Edited September 15, 2017 by burninglegs Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.E 399 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Blew a #1 WW priority on him and didn't hesitate one bit... Link to post Share on other sites
cothane 201 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Well I certainly wouldn't drop him, but if you can get valuable pieces in a trade you have to at least consider it given the possibility he might not play until Christmas (or at all) Link to post Share on other sites
happymedium11 165 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Mr.E said: Blew a #1 WW priority on him and didn't hesitate one bit... as in someone dropped david johnson and u picked him up off ww? you think he'll be back for the playoff run? Link to post Share on other sites
happymedium11 165 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 so we have an IR spot. picked him up after another owner dropped his a##. Hope I look like a genius. Trying to build a ranch of horses. Link to post Share on other sites
vthokie3 1,371 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, happymedium11 said: so we have an IR spot. picked him up after another owner dropped his a##. Hope I look like a genius. Trying to build a ranch of horses. give you have an IR spot it's an easy pickup, no risk at all Link to post Share on other sites
The Caucasian Sensation 463 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 When is DJ's surgery ? Link to post Share on other sites
Gohawks 10,075 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 You're most likely dropping him for someone like Darkwa in a competitive 12 man league. The chance of Johnson coming back >>>>>> the chance of someone like Darkwa being fantasy relevant. Just another reason to hold. Link to post Share on other sites
Gohawks 10,075 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 1 minute ago, The Caucasian Sensation said: When is DJ's surgery ? Yesterday Link to post Share on other sites
happymedium11 165 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, vthokie3 said: give you have an IR spot it's an easy pickup, no risk at all ok thats what i figured. Seems like low investment for big reward but none of the other leaguemates bite so I was wondering if I missed something like did he have a surgical setback or did the team say he's not coming back. anyhoo felt like a no brainer to me too glad i scooped him up. Link to post Share on other sites
vthokie3 1,371 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 17 minutes ago, happymedium11 said: ok thats what i figured. Seems like low investment for big reward but none of the other leaguemates bite so I was wondering if I missed something like did he have a surgical setback or did the team say he's not coming back. anyhoo felt like a no brainer to me too glad i scooped him up. should be back for a playoff run. I totally understand people being leary to fill up a bench spot with him but an IR spot makes in an easy pickup Link to post Share on other sites
happymedium11 165 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 9 minutes ago, vthokie3 said: should be back for a playoff run. I totally understand people being leary to fill up a bench spot with him but an IR spot makes in an easy pickup thanks bro. have dj on another league too but thats cuz i drafted him. he is taking up a bench slot. sigh. Isiaih Crowell , my RB2 is now my RB1. pray for me. gotta get into the playoffs in order for DJ to shine. Link to post Share on other sites
77georgec 626 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Better pray that the cards start winning games or you may not see him back at all. Link to post Share on other sites
The G Man 1,016 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 5 hours ago, phizzics said: I don't usually use Wiki as a source, but I've checked elsewhere and this seems to be accurate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Injured_reserve_list The relevant part... "Starting in 2012, the NFL and the NFLPA reached an agreement allowing one player placed on injured reserve to be brought back to the active roster.[3] Provided that the player was on the final 53-man preseason roster (A rule exempted for the 2012 season), and that the injury is deemed to keep this player unable to practice or play football for an estimated six weeks, the player may be allowed to practice after Week 6, and be activated to play after Week 8.[4] As of 2017, teams may now return two players from injured reserve after Week 8.[5]" I think it's two players now, but I could be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
phizzics 1,007 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 57 minutes ago, The G Man said: I think it's two players now, but I could be wrong. Ha, you didn't finish reading, did you? Link to post Share on other sites
SharkSwimmer 4,902 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 phizzics is the master of the IR rules. I didn't see any reports about how the surgery went. Anyone have a link? Link to post Share on other sites
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