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If I recall, i remember asking if Peterson covers te slot guy when I was inquiring about him covering Baldwin, and some Arizona fan told me yes he has and can cover the guy in the slot if he clearly is their number one. Something to that effect.

 

so, clearly SS is Gmens number one, so does this mean Peterson gets to escort him all day long?i suppose it does, which means you can avoid him.  Peterson and Rhodes are the two I fear the most.  I know some want to put Ramsey in that league but he hasn’t made it there yet, and my man Goodwin will show you why this coming week. 

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12 minutes ago, TennisMenace said:

Hey all you Arizona homers, come enlighten us please.....

 

does Peterson ever shadow the opponent’s best WR when he plays out of the SLOT?

 

thanks.......

He usually doesn't cover the slot player.  However, he will take on any team's WR1, and will take the slot player if the outside guy is not considered a threat.  He covered Crowder last week who plays quite a bit out of the slot.  Peterson slipped and fell on Crowder's TD catch.  Other than that, Crowder had a quiet day.  Will Peterson cover Shepard?  I'd say there's a very good chance he will.  I also think there's a chance he covers Engram.  I think there's zero chance he covers any other random on the field.  He will be on either Shepard or Engram.

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1 minute ago, ccimore said:

He usually doesn't cover the slot player.  However, he will take on any team's WR1.  He covered Crowder last week who plays quite a bit out of the slot.  Peterson slipped and fell on Crowder's TD catch.  Other than that, Crowder had a quiet day.  Will Peterson cover Shepard?  I'd say there's a very good chance he will.  I also think there's a chance he covers Engram.

 

This is not good news for me. I really can’t play Shepard and it looks like I probably can’t play Cole possibly if Hurns is back...and then I lose Legatron.....wow, what a horrible day for me and guys like me. 

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2 minutes ago, TennisMenace said:

 

This is not good news for me. I really can’t play Shepard and it looks like I probably can’t play Cole possibly if Hurns is back...and then I lose Legatron.....wow, what a horrible day for me and guys like me. 

Being a target hog,  and the most talented WR on NYG by far, I still think Shepard is a good play in PPR.  He's not going for anything deep if Peterson is on him, but he could see quite a bit of short gainers.  I could see a Jarvis Landry type day.

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On 12/18/2017 at 5:55 PM, TennisMenace said:

If I recall, i remember asking if Peterson covers te slot guy when I was inquiring about him covering Baldwin, and some Arizona fan told me yes he has and can cover the guy in the slot if he clearly is their number one. Something to that effect.

 

so, clearly SS is Gmens number one, so does this mean Peterson gets to escort him all day long?i suppose it does, which means you can avoid him.  Peterson and Rhodes are the two I fear the most.  I know some want to put Ramsey in that league but he hasn’t made it there yet, and my man Goodwin will show you why this coming week. 

 

 

Doesnt matter Shepard runs the full route tree with OBJ and marshall out. The OC moves him around the formation wherever he thinks he can create the mismatch so its just a matter of if the defense schmes to nullify him.

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4 minutes ago, dashoe said:

 

 

Doesnt matter Shepard runs the full route tree with OBJ and marshall out. The OC moves him around the formation wherever he thinks he can create the mismatch so its just a matter of if the defense schmes to nullify him.

Peterson is always assigned to the opponent's number one passing threat.  Whoever the Cards think that may be.  Will it be Shepard or Engram?  Not sure.  I think there's a slightly better chance that it will be Shepard, as Engram is still defined as a tight end, but I can't say with certainty.  What I can say with certainty is that it will be either Shepard or Engram.  No one else will be considered a legitimate threat.  I'd say 60% Shepard, 40% Engram.

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16 minutes ago, dashoe said:

 

 

Doesnt matter Shepard runs the full route tree with OBJ and marshall out. The OC moves him around the formation wherever he thinks he can create the mismatch so its just a matter of if the defense schmes to nullify him.

 

So Peterson just goes where he goes. Trust me shoe, this is not good news for guys like me who were hoping Peterson only covers split WRs. I had a feeling he could cover slot guys....I suppose he covers BALDWIN when they play Seattle twice a year. That is all you need to know. If he covers Baldwin, he will cover Shepard.  My Grandma can cover Lewis or King. 

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I guess we will have to wait for Evan Silva to officially tell us who Patrick Peterson will be blanketing.

 

so, my Goodwin has Jalen following him around....

my Shepard has Patrick......

do I have anyone who has Rhodes?  Nope, no GB receivers since Rodgers went down. Phew. Lol

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If I am interpreting this right, Evan Silva does not believe Patrick Peterson will be covering Sterling Shepard.  In fact he goes on to say, this makes SS a WR1.

 

Sterling Shepard erased fears about his health in a dominant Week 15 performance (11/139/1), most notably torching Eagles standout slot CB Patrick Robinson and sturdy SS Malcolm Jenkins for big plays. Shepard runs 84% of his routes in the slot, where the Cardinals have struggled against Golden Tate (10/107/0), Doug Baldwin (5/95/0), Nelson Agholor (4/93/1), Bruce Ellington (6/63/0), Cooper Kupp (5/68/0, 4/51/1), Eric Decker (3/56/0), Jamison Crowder (5/55/1), Adam Humphries (6/51/0), and Trent Taylor (5/47/0). Shepard is a WR2 play with WR1 upside in PPR leagues. … Although Tavarres King and Roger Lewis both made positive Week 15 contributions in the Giants’ shootout loss, neither is a realistic option against Patrick Peterson’s stout boundary coverage. Peterson has covered receivers on the outside 88% of the time this season. The Cardinals have also gotten surprisingly sturdy play from LCB Tramon Williams on the other side. … Evan Engram rebounded with authority from his drop-plagued Weeks 11-12 slump to lead the Giants in targets (28) in three weeks since. A high-end TE1 play each week, Engram ranks top five among NFL tight ends in targets (113), catches (63), and yards (710).

 

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3 hours ago, TennisMenace said:

If I am interpreting this right, Evan Silva does not believe Patrick Peterson will be covering Sterling Shepard.  In fact he goes on to say, this makes SS a WR1.

 

Sterling Shepard erased fears about his health in a dominant Week 15 performance (11/139/1), most notably torching Eagles standout slot CB Patrick Robinson and sturdy SS Malcolm Jenkins for big plays. Shepard runs 84% of his routes in the slot, where the Cardinals have struggled against Golden Tate (10/107/0), Doug Baldwin (5/95/0), Nelson Agholor (4/93/1), Bruce Ellington (6/63/0), Cooper Kupp (5/68/0, 4/51/1), Eric Decker (3/56/0), Jamison Crowder (5/55/1), Adam Humphries (6/51/0), and Trent Taylor (5/47/0). Shepard is a WR2 play with WR1 upside in PPR leagues. … Although Tavarres King and Roger Lewis both made positive Week 15 contributions in the Giants’ shootout loss, neither is a realistic option against Patrick Peterson’s stout boundary coverage. Peterson has covered receivers on the outside 88% of the time this season. The Cardinals have also gotten surprisingly sturdy play from LCB Tramon Williams on the other side. … Evan Engram rebounded with authority from his drop-plagued Weeks 11-12 slump to lead the Giants in targets (28) in three weeks since. A high-end TE1 play each week, Engram ranks top five among NFL tight ends in targets (113), catches (63), and yards (710).

 

 

Would Silva be the authority on this?  I've heard to the XM fantasy football guys and even the rotoworld rankings knock shepard down because they're expecting Peterson to cover him. Not that I particularly trust either source but it seems like someone is very wrong.  This is frustrating because he's an easy start for me if he's free of PP over the likes of Gordon and Diggs, but benchable if he's being shadowed.

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55 minutes ago, Baur10 said:

 

Would Silva be the authority on this?  I've heard to the XM fantasy football guys and even the rotoworld rankings knock shepard down because they're expecting Peterson to cover him. Not that I particularly trust either source but it seems like someone is very wrong.  This is frustrating because he's an easy start for me if he's free of PP over the likes of Gordon and Diggs, but benchable if he's being shadowed.

 

Good question.  I can’t tell which source is the most reliable....maybe something will come out in an Arizona newspaper that will have inside knowledge to confirm what we are reading. 

 

But you are right.....this is huge for us. If Peterson, run away, if no Peterson....fire him up. 

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Patrick Peterson is overrated my friends.  I expect another solid 20 point ppr outing from Shepard.  Whenever everyone thinks Shepard should be benched is when he does his best.  The experts said to start him 2 weeks ago and bench him last week,  and he burned the experts twice.  You gotta do the opposite of what the experts say when it comes to this guy... Start Shepard = Win Championship

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6 minutes ago, Boy George said:

Patrick Peterson is overrated my friends.  I expect another solid 20 point ppr outing from Shepard.  Whenever everyone thinks Shepard should be benched is when he does his best.  The experts said to start him 2 weeks ago and bench him last week,  and he burned the experts twice.  You gotta do the opposite of what the experts say when it comes to this guy... Start Shepard = Win Championship

 

In Boy George we trust ?

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6 minutes ago, Boy George said:

Patrick Peterson is overrated my friends.  I expect another solid 20 point ppr outing from Shepard.  Whenever everyone thinks Shepard should be benched is when he does his best.  The experts said to start him 2 weeks ago and bench him last week,  and he burned the experts twice.  You gotta do the opposite of what the experts say when it comes to this guy... Start Shepard = Win Championship

 

Eh agree to disagree there.  He truly is one of the few corners that can take a WR out of the game IMO. 

 

The one thing that makes me feel a little better is the stats @TennisMenace mentioned above with Doug Baldwin and Golden Tate going off since they're top options on their teams (although Marvin Jones is probably the #1 on the Lions at this point). Still though this situation is frustrating.

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20 hours ago, Baur10 said:

 

Eh agree to disagree there.  He truly is one of the few corners that can take a WR out of the game IMO. 

 

The one thing that makes me feel a little better is the stats @TennisMenace mentioned above with Doug Baldwin and Golden Tate going off since they're top options on their teams (although Marvin Jones is probably the #1 on the Lions at this point). Still though this situation is frustrating.

 

88% of the time he has played on the outside. He shadowed Marvin Jones, I think he just played a side vs Seattle on TNF and usually meant Richardson or Lockett but some Baldwin as well iirc. This Giants team has no threat outside so unfortunately I could see him following Shepard. I'm still firing him up on one team and sitting him for Diggs on another. The targets should be there Peterson or not hopefully he turns them into fantasy pts and turns owners into fantasy champs.

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I can’t imagine why PP wouldn’t shadow SS. Giants have absolutely no other viable option but EE, and I don’t see PP trying to cover him. I assume, if the cards were smart, they would have PP shadow SS everywhere including the bathroom, and double EE with safety help. The Giants wouldn’t be able to move the ball at all. 

 

I have SS and badly want to play him, but from a logical standpoint, I can’t trust the cards to be that inept to leave SS free. Although I have seen teams do more ridiculous maneuvers to defy all logic...

 

If PP covers SS all day, there’s no chance SS does much. If 50% coverage or less, and I would feel confident starting over Gordon, Diggs, and the like. If PP only lines up on the outside and leaves SS in the slot, SS will be top 10, maybe top 5 this week. 

 

Ultimate risk/reward this week, fitting for a championship game!

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