vikingapocalypse 1,431 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Possible Leveon/deangelo situation from last year if suspended. If im a mid round 1st and someone lets him slip ill pull the trigger and grab me some run DMC later on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
irvnasty 248 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 43 minutes ago, Ravensdan said: RB with the first pick in a dynasty is pretty shortsighted. Whoever got to steal ODB is thanking you for that one. You meant Mike Evans, but you're excused. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gohawks 10,175 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 3 hours ago, DirtyBoys said: Sorry I should've added the quote and I would as well. I had the 1st overall pick in 2015 in a first draft keeper league and still picked Bell. 1 That does not mean he is dependent on the offensive line. That means he is the most dependent from the stars. After all, somebody has to be the most dependent. Personally, there are 6 RBs that I would consider stars. DJ, Bell, Elliot, Shady, Freeman, and Gordon. Gordon and DJ had pathetic lines. Thus, them being dependent on the line goes right out the window. In fact, I considered Bell the consensus first overall pick until I conducted further research and came to the obvious conclusion that DJ was running behind a bunch of turds and if that line lives up to its promise he can break 2,500 scrimmage yards. Granted, I believe Bell can as well. Due to Zeke's "not bad" involvement in the passing game at best I don't see that as his ceiling. That's beside the point. Anyways, I am high on Gordon for the same reason. Their lines went from pathetic to adequate. Bell, Freeman, and Shady all had good lines. Villanueva had some troubles early on but did far better later on. Steelers line did great towards the end but overall I would classify the season as good for these lines. Zeke, on the other hand, had an utterly incredible offensive line. Elliot had ridiculous yards before contact last year. Heading into this year, Gordon and DJ have an obviously superior line. Bell also has a line that is better than for most of last season. Buffalo and Atlanta also addressed issues on the line. Cowboys on the other hand, made a very obvious and huge step backward. The Cowboys are going from "damn" to likely "hey they got a nice line!" Now throw in the fact that the other 5 RBs are easily more involved in the passing game and calling Elliot the most dependent back on the offensive line is not a stretch by any means. I like Elliot a lot this year. I believe he has the biggest chance of reaching 2,000 rushing yards. However, I also believe he has the biggest chance of finishing outside the top 7 or so as a RB from the top 3. That isn't even a huge knock on him. I believe Bell and DJ are just that good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ravensdan 117 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 11 hours ago, irvnasty said: You meant Mike Evans, but you're excused. No way beckam over Evans all day but that's. Different thread. Seems like a lot of hysteria surrounding Zeke right now. If he drops I wouldn't hesitate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winky 1,999 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 On 7/3/2017 at 0:47 PM, vikingapocalypse said: Schefter trying to get a leg up on his leaguemates I was thinking Schefter must have gotten the #5 and went straight in to propaganda mode. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BuckeyeNutz 21 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Zeke gonna get suspended.. Coming down the pipe.. I'm guessing 2 games..moth appeal to reduce to 1 game.. Open up against Giants and Denver.. Could he become a bust or steal if he slides.. You decide peace Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timexsocialclub 1,397 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, BuckeyeNutz said: Zeke gonna get suspended.. Coming down the pipe.. I'm guessing 2 games..moth appeal to reduce to 1 game.. Open up against Giants and Denver.. Could he become a bust or steal if he slides.. You decide peace Speculation or certainty? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BuckeyeNutz 21 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I ain't the commish.. But I'm guessing some sort of discipline will occur - from some sources. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lord_Varys 4,626 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 The fact that you can even be considered for a suspension after a proven false allegation is a disgrace and the NFL should be embarrassed, if it even had any dignity left. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX Babe Ruth 1,278 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 ESPN's Adam Schefter is reporting this morning that there's a "growing sense" that DAL RB Ezekiel Elliott is "bracing" for a short suspension of 1-2 games at the beginning of the 2017 season. The NFL's investigation into allegations of domestic violence against Elliott is ongoing and nothing has been finalized yet, but we want you to know what we know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winky 1,999 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Lord_Varys said: The fact that you can even be considered for a suspension after a proven false allegation is a disgrace and the NFL should be embarrassed, if it even had any dignity left. The NFL's focus here is to demonstrate an "intolerance" for domestic violence or anything that is even remotely associated with it... Hypocrisy to say the least when guys like Tyreek Hill and Joe Mixon are being pumped up as the next big things. I understand their events were in the past, but they still happened and memories for this kind of thing are long. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dylanfan66 174 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Who cares if he misses on game to 3 games? He still should be drafted in the top 3 overall. These guys slide like Bell did last year and the guys that wait it out win championships. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 752 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Lord_Varys said: The fact that you can even be considered for a suspension after a proven false allegation is a disgrace and the NFL should be embarrassed, if it even had any dignity left. Well, it's there league so they can hand out punishments however they want. If they feel it hurts their image then they will take action I suppose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JrsKars 92 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 so would D.Mcfadden be a good late rounder pickup if zeke misses 2-3 weeks? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lord_Varys 4,626 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, JrsKars said: so would D.Mcfadden be a good late rounder pickup if zeke misses 2-3 weeks? He was a good late rounder anyways as a 3-down cuff to a workhorse in a great situation. He figures to be a top 12 RB play at least in week 1 so that certainly warrants a roster spot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lord_Varys 4,626 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 53 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Well, it's there league so they can hand out punishments however they want. If they feel it hurts their image then they will take action I suppose. Sure, they can do whatever they want. But just because they have the right to do something doesn't make it the right thing to do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX Babe Ruth 1,278 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 The suspension makes me want Zeke even more...he's really going to want to be fed when he returns. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winky 1,999 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Missing the Giants game wouldn't be the worst thing for Zeke... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
disasterisk 1,267 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 2 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: Well, it's there league so they can hand out punishments however they want. the player's union says hello Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 752 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, disasterisk said: the player's union says hello And that's why there's a union. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bartos 731 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 21 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: And that's why there's a union. And the union specifically agreed to this power to be solely controlled by commissioner in their last contract. Willljkey be addressed in next discussions Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RMJ_12 1,737 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 4 hours ago, BuckeyeNutz said: Zeke gonna get suspended.. Coming down the pipe.. I'm guessing 2 games..moth appeal to reduce to 1 game.. Open up against Giants and Denver.. Could he become a bust or steal if he slides.. You decide peace Slides to the 4th pick? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winky 1,999 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 38 minutes ago, RMJ_12 said: Slides to the 4th pick? ... asks the guy with the 4th pick... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lavaman 747 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 No way does this affect where he's drafted. Missing one or two games is no big deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 752 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 4 hours ago, lavaman said: No way does this affect where he's drafted. Missing one or two games is no big deal. Shouldn't affect his production but it will affect his ADP slightly. There will always be some that will avoid him because of the suspension. Mostly likely only drop a spot or two. People in the 4-5 spots will rejoice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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