Red Sox Nation 3,178 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 20 more swinging strikes last night. Was squeezed a bit too, could've easily been a 9:1 k:bb instead of 7:3. Fastball velo was a bit down but it didn't matter; he actually had the 2nd highest single game whiff % of his young career on his fastball last night. In 9 starts (ignoring the injury shortened one) he hasn't given up more than 5 hits in any of them. If you filter to pitchers with 50+ ip, Manaea is 6th in swinging strikes and 3rd in overall contact %. His contact % is largely driven by the 15th best chase rate and #1 outside the zone contact rate. His BABIP will correct, but he's flat out a hard pitcher to hit. His biggest obstacles are health and himself. If he can keep his walk rate down and stay healthy, he should put up top 25 numbers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
borindia 381 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) Another quality outing. Top 20 ROS? Keeper? Edited June 11, 2017 by borindia Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SwayzeExpress 451 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 3 hours ago, borindia said: Top 20 ROS? Yes. 3 hours ago, borindia said: Keeper? Depends. I own him in all 3 of my leagues. 20 (14 teams), 10 (14 teams), and 7 keepers (10 teams). Probably will keep him in all but my 7 keeper league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Red Sox Nation 3,178 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 For pitchers with 60+ ip Manaea is now 3rd overall in swinging strike rate, 1st in contact %, 12th in zone contact. Talk about hard to hit. One of the few guys that I don't worry about a slight dip in velo. He spots his fastball well and keeps hitters so off balance that he still racks up high whiff totals with it. I've considered selling high given the bought with shoulder tightness he had a month ago, but there's not a long list of guys I'd take over him. Burgeoning stud. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
azeri98 824 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 His next start is against the Yanks, if he pitches well he could live up to his billing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IlliniGuy76 1,132 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, azeri98 said: His next start is against the Yanks, if he pitches well he could live up to his billing If he goes out and gives up four runs in 5 innings to the Yankees, he's still worth owning in every single 10 and 12 team league. This start against the Yankees won't remotely change that fact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GrapeJuice 605 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Yeah, I think he's pretty much a hold no matter what at this point. That being said, I'm benching him against the Yanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzy_Slippers 3,941 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 I would roster Manaea no matter what size the league is, unless you have a bunch of aces. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z06vette 1,519 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 34 minutes ago, azeri98 said: His next start is against the Yanks, if he pitches well he could live up to his billing So, it takes doing it twice to convince you? Serious question. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
azeri98 824 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Z06vette said: So, it takes doing it twice to convince you? Serious question. He didn't pitch well until he came back from injury, he had a pretty good 2nd half last year, brutal 1st month this year and a few good starts recently, i need to see a little more Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z06vette 1,519 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Just now, azeri98 said: He didn't pitch well until he came back from injury, he had a pretty good 2nd half last year, brutal 1st month this year and a few good starts recently, i need to see a little more Fair enough....Those few starts you're talking about, just keep in mind who those teams were...The post above yours from Red Sox Nation, did you read that? That's pretty convincing too me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
azeri98 824 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Z06vette said: Fair enough....Those few starts you're talking about, just keep in mind who those teams were...The post above yours from Red Sox Nation, did you read that? That's pretty convincing too me. Yes i did but if he's really good like he is projected to be he should be able to pitch well against any team, i know every pitcher has their bad days thats expected in a long season, i just want to see consistency, he pitched well against the Indians and Jays two pretty good offensive teams, so i'm optimistic about his future, just want to see more, thats all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
borindia 381 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 5 wins in a row and 6 for his last 8 is enough for me to hold him. He threw 7 innings of shutout ball at Yankee stadium the last time he faced them. Must start at home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vote4link 59 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 This game broke a 16-game streak for Manaea (going back to last year) of giving up 5 or less hits. Pretty great stretch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
borindia 381 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 No Hicks or Sanchez. Are we starting tonight? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crotchcrickets 3,226 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 id be starting him even with sanchez and hicks in the lineup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jhensy 21 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 17 minutes ago, borindia said: No Hicks or Sanchez. Are we starting tonight? Manaea 3-0, 3.21 at home this year, 3.02 last year. He's only given up more than 5 hits once this season. Yanks only hitting .247 vs. LHP (.286 vs. RHP), only 16-17 on the road. I'm starting him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DemOrioles 517 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Starting. You have to at this point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
reckoner 53 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Always start your studs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JenksDodger 957 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 hour ago, crotchcrickets said: id be starting him even with sanchez and hicks in the lineup Agree 100%, you start him whoever he's playing at this point. Well, maybe not against the Rockies @ Coors, but that's a whole different deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
borindia 381 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Well that didn't quite work out. I don't think you can start anyone against the Yankees right now except for Sale. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SportsBrain 306 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 (edited) At this point- it's basically very dangerous to start anybody vs Judge and the Yankees. Guy is on pace for almost 60 home runs and just not slumping at all right now. Maybe if/when he hits a slump along with a few other Yankees it will be easier to use pitchers vs them- until then you're playing with fire. Edited June 17, 2017 by SportsBrain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TTRA1N 860 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Have Severino/Manaea going. They're trying to match each others garbage tonite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crotchcrickets 3,226 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 good game tonight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Red Sox Nation 3,178 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 There was a hard hit ball at Pinder that a better fielder probably makes a play on. Judge 3-run bomb followed. Manaea wasn't THAT bad last night, and no shame in having an Aaron Judge homer be the difference in a QS or not. He still induced whiffs, good contact rates, so no worries. Tough matchup vs Houston on deck, but at least it's home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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