BLINDSIDERS 242 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 1 hour ago, charliehustler said: this defensive backfield is beat up. If Chancelor is out also then I like this matchup a lot more. True, but they are starting some Jimmy's and Joe's on that offensive line. Kirk hasn't had a lot of time to progress through his reads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nb009 932 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 On 11/3/2017 at 6:55 PM, CABLE87 said: Sherman doesnt need to shadow doctson lmao.... What was that again? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CrastersCreep 475 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Are we bashing him or praising him? Because there’s no way we could ever be pragmatic and call it like it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nb009 932 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CrastersCreep said: Are we bashing him or praising him? Because there’s no way we could ever be pragmatic and call it like it is. Still a hold for me. Hopefully there's more to come from this game. Sherman was on him the whole time and Doctson routinely beat Sherman, but naturally, Cousins shied away from Sherman (and I don't blame Cousins this time, because it's Sherman). His last two catches were two of the best catches this weekend. Edited November 6, 2017 by nb009 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
burninglegs 10,836 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, CrastersCreep said: Are we bashing him or praising him? Because there’s no way we could ever be pragmatic and call it like it is. He's a stud WR that just isn't getting targeted in a terribly run and called offense. That's about it. Until Gruden & Cousins open up this offense, it is what it is. The talent is there, no question on my part. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CrastersCreep 475 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 minute ago, nb009 said: Still a hold for me. Hopefully there's more to come from this game. Sherman was on him the whole time and Doctson routinely beat Sherman, but naturally, Cousins shied away from Sherman (and I don't blame Cousins this time, because it's Sherman). His last two catches were two of the best catches this weekend. Yes I came away impressed believing that he’s asserted himself as the best outside WR on the redskins. What the means I’m not sure but it should translate to at a minimum of upside WR3 production. I think also coupled with the offense making an effort to win down the field and doctson making a very clutch catch as well as the schedule improving. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UVA_Drew 1,283 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, burninglegs said: He's a stud WR that just isn't getting targeted in a terribly run and called offense. That's about it. Until Gruden & Cousins open up this offense, it is what it is. The talent is there, no question on my part. All due respect, I think this game as called as well as could be expected by Gruden. Remember, they are down to 3rd strong offensive linemen, guys they just signed off the street during the week. Add in Seattle’s dominating pass rush today, this was as good as Kirk could have played. He was getting absolutely murdered by that dline today...quick hitters were the only option. Sure we’d all love to force the ball downfield more, but you’ll get Kirk killed if you ask him to hold onto it longer in games and situations like today. I think Doctson and this offense showed enough today to keep Doctson as a hold. As the offensive line gets healthier, and the schedule ease up, the vertical passing game will open up with it. Edited November 6, 2017 by UVA_Drew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dashoe 6,462 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 13 minutes ago, UVA_Drew said: All due respect, I think this game as called as well as could be expected by Gruden. Remember, they are down to 3rd strong offensive linemen, guys they just signed off the street during the week. Add in Seattle’s dominating pass rush today, this was as good as Kirk could have played. He was getting absolutely murdered by that dline today...quick hitters were the only option. Sure we’d all love to force the ball downfield more, but you’ll get Kirk killed if you ask him to hold onto it longer in games and situations like today. I think Doctson and this offense showed enough today to keep Doctson as a hold. As the offensive line gets healthier, and the schedule ease up, the vertical passing game will open up with it. Doctson is definitely a hold as his role and execution seems to be increasing. HE is making difficult catches Pryor couldnt make. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CABLE87 1,749 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 59 minutes ago, nb009 said: What was that again? Its ok, dont be salty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nb009 932 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, CABLE87 said: Its ok, dont be salty. Hey, it's okay to be wrong. Man up. Don't be childish about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CABLE87 1,749 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 minute ago, nb009 said: Hey, it's okay to be wrong. Man up. Don't be childish about it. What exactly am i wrong about?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steven Juan Supre 13 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I was wrong about him, soured on him for a number of reasons and dropped him last week but he was out there making plays and looking a very good real life WR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nk3323 36 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 i want to hold onto him, or maybe drop him for woods. I really like Doc's upside but idk, no Washington WR is useful this year. Seems like Cousins spreads the ball around too much for any WR to be consistent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oban14 658 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Not sure why anyone would drop the #1 WR getting thrown at by Kirk Cousins - with an awful run game. The best is yet to come. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dashoe 6,462 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, oban14 said: Not sure why anyone would drop the #1 WR getting thrown at by Kirk Cousins - with an awful run game. The best is yet to come. because we havent seen anything since the bye that indicates kirk will focus on targeting his wr group more or focus on his wr1. The best we had was game 1 or 2 when pryor had double digit targets. Playoffs are almost here ur eithe in or on the bubble fighting to get in, so Doctson is still a high risk dart throw for many teams who don't have the luxury of waiting for the best is yet to come game Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oban14 658 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, dashoe said: because we havent seen anything since the bye that indicates kirk will focus on targeting his wr group more or focus on his wr1. The best we had was game 1 or 2 when pryor had double digit targets. Playoffs are almost here ur eithe in or on the bubble fighting to get in, so Doctson is still a high risk dart throw for many teams who don't have the luxury of waiting for the best is yet to come game If the playoffs started today in my league, I'd be in. I want guys who have a low floor and a very high ceiling (Doctson, Davis, JuJu, DeDe, etc) and see John Brown, Mathews, Stills, etc on the WW. Would rather take the risk with a young lottery ticket than get 50 yards with any of those guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
urban2014 1,741 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 The best is yet to come? Not this season and not with Crowder back Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sambr1992 43 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Yeah I don't think we'll be getting any solid production out of him this year. I have him stashed but probably won't touch him for the ROS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
floppy 210 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 hes on WW in my 12 team league, I am not sure theres much to see here except maybe a solid floor of 6-8 points if that is what u need in ppr? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BurgundyBooger 331 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Kirk just needs to chuck it up to Docston whenever he sees him one-on-one in man coverage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whadeeb 104 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) After last weeks catch late i think he will be targeted more this week. Im probably in la la fantasy land but he is my wr 3 thanks to evans susp and coopers bye week Edited November 8, 2017 by whadeeb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pdog109 4,721 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 On 11/8/2017 at 9:09 AM, urban2014 said: The best is yet to come? Not this season and not with Crowder back Outside of one game Crowder hasn't done diddly poo offensively. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pdog109 4,721 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 On 11/8/2017 at 9:17 AM, sambr1992 said: Yeah I don't think we'll be getting any solid production out of him this year. I have him stashed but probably won't touch him for the ROS. Yeah same, i have him stashed next to Josh Gordon, Josh squared lol. Reed - always hurt Crowder - Been gimped most of the season and not really effective Pryor - Not good Ryan Grant - COME ON MAN. Gotta think Doc will be getting his soon if the skins wanna win. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lolcopter 7,890 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Yeah, because nothing wins football games like passing to a guy who already dropped a game winner Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NeroVendict 77 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 21 minutes ago, lolcopter said: Yeah, because nothing wins football games like passing to a guy who already dropped a game winner I guess you missed the Seattle game huh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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