TrueToTheBlue 345 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 16 minutes ago, KennyWoo said: The final stat line was not bad. 5-for-67 is a pace of 80 catches and 1072 yards. You know how many WRs had 80 or more catches and 1072 or more yards last year? 14 (one of whom was Thomas itself). I just don't understand why people complain around here so much. I'll take 5/67 every game all year if he mixes in 8 TDs. That would make him WR13 for the season based on last year's numbers. Relax. Nobody's saying to drop him or sell low or anything like that. The combination of a WR we drafted top 30 seeing only 8 targets week 1 and the thought that Denver could spread it around a little more this year rather than just feed Thomas/Sanders is MILDLY concerning. He'll probably have a fine season. But as I said in my original post, I didn't watch the game, as I'm sure many others didn't considering it went until 1 am east coast time. I was simply asking IF those that did catch it had any concerns about a game that saw him score single digit points in .5 ppr. My sincerest apologies for asking... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lolcopter 7,860 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 "only 8 targets" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TrueToTheBlue 345 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 18 minutes ago, lolcopter said: "only 8 targets" LOVE that this was the only thing you took away from my post and completely ignored the rest. For reference, he's the targets some of the guys getting drafted around his adp saw: allen - 10 pryor - 11 Hopkins - 16 Fitz - 13 Tate - 12 And before you respond you should know that yes, I am saying DT sucks, he will not have better games than this all year, and you should drop him before you drop arob ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lolcopter 7,860 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 We could play this game all day Julio - 5 targets Kelvin Benjamin - 5 targets Jordy - 8 targets Diggs - 8 targets Michael Thomas - 8 targets Baldwin - 4 targets etc etc etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skye2388 155 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, lolcopter said: We could play this game all day Julio - 5 targets Kelvin Benjamin - 5 targets Jordy - 8 targets Diggs - 8 targets Michael Thomas - 8 targets Baldwin - 4 targets etc etc etc I laughed out loud... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TrueToTheBlue 345 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 21 minutes ago, lolcopter said: We could play this game all day Julio - 5 targets Kelvin Benjamin - 5 targets Jordy - 8 targets Diggs - 8 targets Michael Thomas - 8 targets Baldwin - 4 targets etc etc etc Oh yea we could! https://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/receiving/sort/receivingTargets Thanks for your helpful insight! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lolcopter 7,860 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) I didn't even take your first question as complaining or anything fwiw. This last game was basically DT's floor. He was the 9th most targeted player in the league last season and I don't see that changing drastically either way. Denver was just trying to get the run game established and as soon as they got up multiple scores they relied on the run to an almost stubborn degree and nearly lost the game because of it. Hopefully they learn from that mistake Edited September 12, 2017 by lolcopter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
noles1983 1,638 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Banged up Cowboys secondary. What are we thinking stat line wise for Thomas? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Irish bayou 55 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 6 for 110 and td and a fumble Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brosephd 1,307 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 out of all the high scoring, really could've used a td but won't complain. he's getting yards and targets. td's will surely come Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rigadoog 270 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Good buy low candidate if you ask me. TDs will come. Much bigger target than Sanders, though I admit his route running isn't even close. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vendetta 528 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 6 hours ago, rigadoog said: Good buy low candidate if you ask me. TDs will come. Much bigger target than Sanders, though I admit his route running isn't even close. What's frustrating is he doesn't even seem to get looks in the end zone - it seems like it's often going to a TE or some scrub WR (Fowler). He could be a low-end WR1 if he could just score more frequently. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rigadoog 270 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 4 hours ago, Vendetta said: What's frustrating is he doesn't even seem to get looks in the end zone - it seems like it's often going to a TE or some scrub WR (Fowler). He could be a low-end WR1 if he could just score more frequently. Could be that he's given more attention than other receivers. If this is the case, it likely won't last as Siemian has shown he can spread the ball, and teams will have to honor that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vendetta 528 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 1 minute ago, rigadoog said: Could be that he's given more attention than other receivers. If this is the case, it likely won't last as Siemian has shown he can spread the ball, and teams will have to honor that. I hope so - I seem to have a glut of receivers that exist to distract so their teammates can catch all of the TD's (Demaryius helping Sanders, Julio helping Sanu, Cooks helping Hogan, etc.). In the case of Demaryius vs. Sanders though, I agree with your assessment that there's a huge gap between the two on route-running ability - Sanders is elite at that, and he gets the attention of Siemian because his route-running allows him to get really open sometimes. He just doesn't get as much respect as he deserves because of his small frame relative to Demaryius's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panthers8912 713 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 dude was wide open for a td and siemen didn't see him. Decided to force the ball over the middle for an incompletion. Cost me a W this week DT looks good though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rigadoog 270 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, Vendetta said: I hope so - I seem to have a glut of receivers that exist to distract so their teammates can catch all of the TD's (Demaryius helping Sanders, Julio helping Sanu, Cooks helping Hogan, etc.). In the case of Demaryius vs. Sanders though, I agree with your assessment that there's a huge gap between the two on route-running ability - Sanders is elite at that, and he gets the attention of Siemian because his route-running allows him to get really open sometimes. He just doesn't get as much respect as he deserves because of his small frame relative to Demaryius's. Keep faith in those WRs... when I started reading I thought you were gonna say Amari Cooper lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rigadoog 270 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Panthers8912 said: dude was wide open for a td and siemen didn't see him. Decided to force the ball over the middle for an incompletion. Cost me a W this week DT looks good though I saw that. I feel like these are the type of plays that Siemian will only improve at as he matures as a QB. I'm sure DT let him know about that though lol. Edited September 18, 2017 by rigadoog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vendetta 528 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, rigadoog said: Keep faith in those WRs... when I started reading I thought you were gonna say Amari Cooper lol. Haha, Cooper's even worse! 3 Crabtree TD's yesterday vs. Cooper's anemic statline is brutal, especially if the Cooper owner played the Crabtree owner! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dakimbell 1,041 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 12 hours ago, rigadoog said: Good buy low candidate if you ask me. TDs will come. Much bigger target than Sanders, though I admit his route running isn't even close. that and Trevor Seimian looks really good out there, with a really solid running game and him and Sanders outside I like this offense, especially at home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheDoctor 1,104 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 This happened all last year. DT got the yardage while Sanders the TDs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MayorMcCheese 137 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, TheDoctor said: This happened all last year. DT got the yardage while Sanders the TDs. They both had 5 TDs last year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rigadoog 270 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, TheDoctor said: This happened all last year. DT got the yardage while Sanders the TDs. Unless I'm reading something wrong, DT and Sanders both scored 5 TDs each last year. Edit: ninja'd Edited September 18, 2017 by rigadoog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ffguy0087 1,244 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 21 minutes ago, TheDoctor said: This happened all last year. DT got the yardage while Sanders the TDs. Care to explain this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheDoctor 1,104 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Ffguy0087 said: Care to explain this? Sorry I mis-spoke. It felt like Sanders had the TDs and DT the yardage game in and game out although they had the same amount of TDs. DT never had a multi-TD game last year. It always felt like Sanders was the targeted guy in the redzone more than DT and sure felt like Siemian looked his way a lot more around the goaline. Edited September 18, 2017 by TheDoctor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KB_IV 44 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Looks like he has a hammy issue. I'm concerned. I hate hammy injuries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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