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I see this website that names 70 players that could be traded.

 

https://www.fanragsports.com/mlb/inside-baseball-70-players-hit-trade-block/

 

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While it’s still a bit early to know who could be traded, it’s never too early to form a good list of who could go in trade. Here are 70 players who could hit the block, ranked in order of headline potential (i.e., big names first; though admittedly, many at the top guys are among the least likely to go anywhere).

 

1. Zack Greinke, D-backs SP. A lot of things work against a trade: A team that’s in the thick of the race, an overpriced contract that few teams could even afford (almost $150 million to go through 2021), a limited no trade (he likes the Phoenix-Scottsdale area) and a long list of starters expected to be available. But if they fall back, well, he does make 3 ½ times what the next highest-paid D-backs player makes, and the guys in charge weren’t the ones who signed off on it.

2. Justin Verlander, Tigers SP. With $76 million to go through 2019 (about half what’s owed Greinke, though one rival points out the Tigers have shown no indication to pay it down). The Dodgers were the main team that showed interest in the winter. But the Tigers are seen as not too likely to sell, especially with no one running away with things in the AL Central. “I think they go for it to honor Mr. Ilitch, and besides that, he’s a likely Hall of Famer, which makes him a tough guy to trade,” one rival says.

3. Josh Donaldson, Jays 3B. He has to get back (that’ll be soon) and the Jays have to be convinced this isn’t their year, but rivals could see him out there. Would take a haul back, obviously.

4. Gerrit Cole, Pirates SP. Teams would be lining up for the hard-throwing ace who many see thriving in a bigger market. But as was pointed out here last week, there’s no urgency to trade – at least not yet. That day may not be here yet, with two more years to go before free agency, but as one rival says, “the day’s coming.”

5. Jose Quintana, White Sox SP. He’d get a haul considering the salary’s reasonable and there are 3 ½ years left ($33 million through 2020 assuming the team options are picked up, according to Cot’s, which has been used for most of the salaries here). They don’t have to deal him this summer, of course, but he’s the first one on this list that’s likely to go. “The need will be greater this summer (than the winter),” one rival surmises. The Astros and Yankees were among teams to show interest earlier, but the field would be big.

6. Ryan Braun, Brewers OF. He wasn’t claimed when on trade waivers last year (he has $70 million to go through 2020) and now has a full no-trade (it’s quite possible the Dodgers are the only team he’d accept). No, it doesn’t seem very likely. “I’m just not sure where he goes. L.A. makes the most sense, but I don’t know if they need him,” says a rival.

7. A.J. Pollock, D-backs OF. Now that he’s less than two years from free agency, he could become a bit more available. The Nats could make some sense, though Michael Taylor’s doing fine so far in place of Adam Eaton. “Winter time trade,” one rival predicts.

8. Chris Archer, Rays SP. The Rays have listened before, but it’d take a haul as he’s a bargain ($19 million to go through ’19). Alex Cobb remains the Ray most likely to go, though if Archer hits the block, some see the Cubs, where he was once a minor leaguer, as a good partner, assuming Rays ownership is finally over the Joe Maddon defection now (they were taking awhile to get past that at last check).

9. Jose Abreu, White Sox 1B. He’s playing much better lately, but it’s hard to see them trading him after he was used to recruit fellow Cuban Luis Robert. Plus, folks just aren’t buying slugging first basemen these days, although Abreu opted out of his contract and is now in arbitration with two years remaining.

10. J.D. Martinez, Tigers OF. The Tigers are likely going for it, but his hot start is a nice reminder how good he can be.

11. Ian Kinsler, Tigers 2B. The price tag was understandably high this winter since he’s a productive player with a fair deal ($18 million to go through next year assuming his option is picked up). The Tigers will probably hold, but if they do sell, he’d bring the most back in return.

12. Andrew McCutchen, Pirates OF. He’s slumping even worse this year than last, meaning they probably can’t get back anything they’d like. The $25 million through ’18 no longer looks like a bargain and that includes a 2018 option that’s fallen from a surety to just likely

13. Jake Odorizzi, Rays SP. Less likely to go than Cobb but probably more likely than Archer.

14. Dee Gordon, Marlins 2B. With him basically repeating the same off year as last year, one GM predicted there was “zero” chance they could move him now. Another calls that contract a “terrible” deal, echoing the first that the Marlins’ two veterans with real trade value are Christian Yelich and Marcell Ozuna, who don’t seem especially likely to be dealt. (Giancarlo Stanton is a good player but his contract would make him even more untradeable, too.)

15. Alex Colome, Rays RP. Understandably, they’d seek a haul back. Hard to see him going anywhere. But they might, says one rival, “if they get exactly what they want.”

16. Eric Hosmer, Royals 1B. He’s the free agent the Royals most want to sign long term. But with no first rounder coming back for a qualifying offer, if they are out of it, he should be out there.

17. Kelvin Herrera, Royals RP. One of the game’s most under-rated relievers also has a reasonable $5.325M salary. Meaning KC could bring a haul back.

18. Sonny Gray, A’s SP. He’s probably going to have to put together a few more good starts to be more marketable, but he had one great one vs. the Marlins Wednesday. The potential is obviously there.

19. Roberto Osuna, Jays RP. Supremely talented closer, but this may not be the time. That doesn’t mean teams won’t ask, though.

20. David Robertson, White Sox RP. The sides couldn’t get together over the winter, but the Nats still make the most sense. The $21 million through ’18 may not seem like an overpay anymore, depending on desperation.

21. Ervin Santana, Twins SP. Though he isn’t a hard thrower, he’s limiting opposing hitters to a .144 batting average. Teams wanted the Twins to pay down the salary last year (he has $23 million to go through next year), but that shouldn’t be the case now. Of course, at present the Twins are in first place. And even if they fall a bit, in a market flush with starters, some rivals wonder whether the Twins will be the most aggressive to sell.

22. Jose Bautista, Jays OF. No one’s quite sure why the sides stayed together in the first place. His overall numbers aren’t up to his standards, but he’s showing very strong signs lately (.827 slugging percentage over his last 15 games, via @ckamka). That $18.5-million salary reflects the interest of Jays fans, and would have to be paid way down.

23. Jason Vargas, Royals SP. Soft tossers don’t usually bring back what you’d think, even if they are performing well (and Vargas clearly is) and fairly reasonably priced ($8 million salary). Plus, there may be a half dozen good starting pitchers out there. In any case, with $59 million to go, Ian Kennedy is much tougher to move.

24. Brian Dozier, Twins 2B. The Dodgers were the main suitor, and with Logan Forsythe back and Chris Taylor doing well, he doesn’t seem like a need for them anymore. Plus, the Twins are currently in first place.

25. Alex Cobb, Rays SP. He’s having a nice walk year despite still working to regain his trademark changeup and relying on a fastball-curve combination. The most likely of a trio of Rays veteran starters to go.

26. Mike Moustakas, Royals 3B. He’s also having a decent season in his walk year, and since first rounders don’t come with qualifying offers anymore, he’d likely go if the Royals sell.

27. Yonder Alonso, A’s 1B. Good timing for this late bloomer (and maybe the A’s), he’s coming into his own, just in time for free agency. “I think the A’s would talk about all their guys,” one rival suggests.

28. Zack Cozart, Reds SS. One of the game’s most under-rated players (his OPS is over 1.000), he was almost traded to the Mariners this winter before the deal was quashed for unknown reasons.

29. Lorenzo Cain, Royals OF. He’s almost certainly gone after the year. The Nats could make sense if Michael Taylor doesn’t do the job. “Could see a Cain-Herrera combo to Washington,” one rival GM guesses.

30. Josh Harrison, Pirates INF. He was available over the summer, as the Pirates will consider anything. However there’s no hint he’s on the block now. Another issue: Jung-ho Kang appears stuck in Korea at the moment.

31. Todd Frazier, White Sox 3B. The ChiSox might have to offset a bit of the $7.5-million salary. He’d bring power and personality, but his stock seems down a bit. “He’s good in a home run contest,” says one skeptical rival. (Me: Get him to a bona fide contender, and the bet is he’d do better.)

32. Marco Estrada, Jays SP. He manages to win despite not cracking 90. “I think the Jays might trade their short-term guys,” one rival says. Estrada is one of those.

33. Jaime Garcia, Braves SP. He’s pitching well in a hitters’ park. Should have value.

34. Jeremy Hellickson, Phillies SP. The Phillies probably would have to significantly pay his hefty $17.2-million salary, and they’d be willing to do so if they get the right prospects back. Somehow, he manages to stay in almost every game despite an oddly low strikeout total.

35. Patrick Corbin, D-backs SP. He has one year left before free agency but still hasn’t gotten back to previous form.

36. Brad Hand, Padres RP. He’s a valuable lefty who may be the most coveted guy in the market, especially with his bargain $1.375-million salary.

37. Brandon Kintzler, Twins RP. He’s doing a surprisingly good job as the Twins’ closer, but think set-up for a contender.

38. Hector Santiago, Twins SP. Yet another Twin outperforming. But once again, they lead the AL Central.

39. Joakim Soria, Royals RP. Very professional pitcher is back in form.

40. Tony Watson, Pirates RP. The Pirates have a fine replacement in Felipe Rivero (a “beast,” says a scout) for Watson. Add him to the list of Nats possibilities, and it doesn’t hurt that Scott Boras now represents him.

41. Brandon Phillips, Braves 2B. He’s only slipped a bit, and the good news is, the Reds are already paying $13 million of the $14 million salary

42. Melky Cabrera, White Sox OF. Pro hitter is having an off year.

43. Bartolo Colon, Braves SP. He certainly thrived in New York. And heaven knows the Mets need pitching help.

44. Dan Straily, Marlins SP. He’s been the Marlins’ best pitcher, if that means anything. Another plus: major bargain at $552K for 2017.

45. Arodys Vizcanio, Braves RP. They trade a lot, and he seems to be in a lot of trades, too. Having a nice year.

46. Edinson Volquez, Marlins SP. He’d be better off with a little more support. Logically, any Marlins sale would likely wait until after the All-Star break.

47. Derek Holland, White Sox SP. Lefty has found his groove on the South Side. James Shields and Miguel Gonzalez could also be trade possibilities at 35th and Dan Ryan.

48. Logan Morrison, Rays 1B. The entertaining LoMo has found his stroke with 12 early dingers. A plus: now looks like a bargain, at $2.5M.

49. Nate Jones, White Sox RP. Hard-throwing set-up type could help a number of teams. Big fastball, unusually team-friendly contract which includes two club options, with one converting to big-league minimum salary if he needs a second Tommy John.

50. Mike Minor, Royals RP. He’s got his career back, but could be on the move.

51. Brad Ziegler, Marlins RP. The sidearmer has just had one or two bad games. Useful pitcher.

52. Anthony Swarzak, White Sox RP. He looks like a late bloomer who’s extremely hot (the ChiSox also have Tommy Kahnle, Zach Putnam and others in that excellent pen).

53. Jed Lowrie, A’s INF. Versatile infielder seems forever on the block.

54. Brad Boxberger, Rays RP. The former closer is about to return. Depends if Rays sell.

55. James Shields, White Sox SP. He looked much better before going on the DL.

56. Trevor Plouffe, A’s 3B-1B. Boston liked him in the winter, and they still have a third base issue.

57. Tom Koehler, Marlins SP. Marlins innings eater is currently on the DL.

58. Drew Storen, Reds RP. Veteran reliever seems to be back in form.

59. Mark Rzepczynski, Mariners RP. Hard to see Seattle making wholesale changes. But perhaps, if the injuries do them in, their lefty specialist goes.

60. Jim Johnson, Braves RP. No guarantees the Braves sell, as they’ve won a majority of games since Freddie Freeman went down and are putting their best foot forward in their new park.

61. Joe Smith, Jays RP. Having a very nice year up north.

62. Trevor Cahill, Padres SP. He was doing a nice job in the Pads’ rotation before going on the DL. Rivals figure “anyone but Wil Myers” will be available.

63. David Phelps, Marlins RP. He’s had some rough outings, but he throws hard and is versatile.

64. Howie Kendrick, Phillies INF-OF. Professional hitter could help a contender.

65. Pat Neshek, Phillies RP. Another sidearmer who could be out there (Joaquin Benoit and Jeanmar Gomez are two more from the Phils’ pen who could go).

66. Miguel Gonzalez, White Sox SP. He’s regained his solid form on the South Side.

67. Kendrys Morales, Jays DH. They were the high bidder for the DH, and he’s underperformed, so they’d have to significantly pay down the $30 million to go through 2019.

68. Ryan Madson, A’s RP. Could help a contender following career resurrection.

69. R.A. Dickey, Braves SP. He certainly could provide a different look.

70. Joaquin Benoit, Phillies RP. He seemed upset with his role earlier.

 

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That list seems more like a pipe dream of "every decent player on every team that isn't in 1st place right now" than a list that anyone actually logically thought out.  The majority of that list I don't even think will be shopped or available, never mind traded.

 

There's like 6 or 7 Blue Jays on that list, and they've been on fire lately, are only 3 GB a wild card spot, and Ross Atkins has publicly said if anything the Jays will be buying at the deadline, not selling.  Was this list written in April?

 

I'm sure over the next few weeks we'll get a better idea of who is selling and what teams fall further down the standings, but like usual I'm guessing the deadline will be mostly about veteran middle relievers on cheap deals switching teams, and utility bench bats.  If there are any big names to change sides I'd guess they might come from teams like CWS that have already fully embraced a rebuild, if they find trade partners that are desperate enough.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Dugout Legend said:

I think Moustakas to Red Sox will make a ton of sense in July. The Red Sox have the worst .OPS from the 3B position in all of baseball. Moose would do wonders there.

 

Very possible.

 

Impressive how quickly Dombrowski has ruined that farm system, too. 

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-The Blue Jays, Rays, and Diamondbacks should not be so prominently focused on this list; all three teams should at least contend for WC spots for the entire season.  Atkins has already said they aren't selling, the Rays should not be selling off assets unless they fall out of contention, and AJ Pollock is a key part of the Diamondbacks' core going forward...they would be dumb not to extend him

-White Sox need to continue to move assets and accumulate prospect capital.  They have done a great job going from a trash system to a top 10 system over the last year +, but Quintana, Abreu, Robertson, Cabrera, and Frazier should all be on the block.

-Cubs need SP pretty badly and if Archer isn't available (and I assume they would not trade within the division or with the White Sox), Sonny Gray or Ervin Santana seem like good fits.  They could honestly use a RP pitcher too...would not be surprised by a SP/RP mega deal.

-Tigers need to blow it up...their window has shut and they have a weak system.  They have some assets, but they have to be willing to put emotions aside and deal some of these guys (mainly Verlander and heck, even Miggy).  JD Martinez should be moved if you are going to rebuild or don't think you will resign him.  Dombrowski destroyed them and they need to be built back up.

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^Verlander and Miggy get you little in return since their owed money is still massive.  Really massive.  Trade would be basically giving them away to get out from under their contracts.  Not sure if Detroit wants to treat two potential Hall of Famers for them like that.  No Tiger has made the Hall of Fame since Al Kaline who last played in 1974...

 

 

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12 minutes ago, BayofPuigs said:

Surprised no mention of Khris Davis on a one year contract, unless the A's think they can contend relatively soon.

It feels like Billy Beane is always open for business. 

A few years ago he traded Josh Donaldson away which I still find difficult to understand since two of those years were for reasonable money. This was after two 90 RBI seasons in Oakland.  Donaldson is finally making $17m this year.

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Throwing this back up top the discussion board.

 

With Moustakas having a monster season, curious to see if Royals peg him as the franchise player and resign him or still move him ( Boston, others) at the deadline.

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5 minutes ago, Dugout Legend said:

Throwing this back up top the discussion board.

 

With Moustakas having a monster season, curious to see if Royals peg him as the franchise player and resign him or still move him ( Boston, others) at the deadline.

The royals have been en fuego lately.  Unless they cool off (which they definitely may).... I don't see them as sellers

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No need to sell. 

The Royals can be spoilers and competitive at the same time 

Josh Donaldsons name has come up linked to the Cardinals 

Would the Jays trade him to the RedSox ? Nah 

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On 5/31/2017 at 11:50 AM, jmoney23 said:

-The Blue Jays, Rays, and Diamondbacks should not be so prominently focused on this list; all three teams should at least contend for WC spots for the entire season.  Atkins has already said they aren't selling, the Rays should not be selling off assets unless they fall out of contention, and AJ Pollock is a key part of the Diamondbacks' core going forward...they would be dumb not to extend him

-White Sox need to continue to move assets and accumulate prospect capital.  They have done a great job going from a trash system to a top 10 system over the last year +, but Quintana, Abreu, Robertson, Cabrera, and Frazier should all be on the block.

-Cubs need SP pretty badly and if Archer isn't available (and I assume they would not trade within the division or with the White Sox), Sonny Gray or Ervin Santana seem like good fits.  They could honestly use a RP pitcher too...would not be surprised by a SP/RP mega deal.

-Tigers need to blow it up...their window has shut and they have a weak system.  They have some assets, but they have to be willing to put emotions aside and deal some of these guys (mainly Verlander and heck, even Miggy).  JD Martinez should be moved if you are going to rebuild or don't think you will resign him.  Dombrowski destroyed them and they need to be built back up.

cubs don't need RP at all. 

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Tigers need to blow it up, but it's pointless unless they can deal one of Verlander or Cabrera and I don't think there is really a strong urge to trade either given they haven't had a hall of famer since Al Kaline went in near 40 years ago. Now if either do go in, the bulk of their careers and their primes would have been with the Tigers, but if they play 4-5 more years on a contender in a bigger market they might be better linked to that team just the same.

I don't think Miguel Cabrera is traded - too much money owed and he's always dinged up these days meaning the Tigs would have to pay a lot of his contract to his new team and get little return for him anyways.

I think there is maybe a 5% chance Verlander is dealt. He has a complete NTC, so only teams I think he'd agree to go to would be Washington (he's from Virginia and went to Old Dominion as well) or Los Angeles Dodgers for the Cali living for his fiancee.

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2 minutes ago, Mikewastaken said:

It's all but certain now that the Yankees will trade for a first baseman. Bour and Alonso seem most likely but I'd peg Abreu as a dark horse. Would not put it past Cashman to quietly go all in for Quintana and Abreu both.

Abreu won't be dealt because he's seen as a mentor both on and off field for Yoan Mondaca and Luis Robert. 

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40 minutes ago, Mikewastaken said:

It's all but certain now that the Yankees will trade for a first baseman. Bour and Alonso seem most likely but I'd peg Abreu as a dark horse. Would not put it past Cashman to quietly go all in for Quintana and Abreu both.

As a Bour owner I'd love to see that.

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1 hour ago, Baseball Jonze said:

Tigers need to blow it up, but it's pointless unless they can deal one of Verlander or Cabrera and I don't think there is really a strong urge to trade either given they haven't had a hall of famer since Al Kaline went in near 40 years ago. Now if either do go in, the bulk of their careers and their primes would have been with the Tigers, but if they play 4-5 more years on a contender in a bigger market they might be better linked to that team just the same.

I don't think Miguel Cabrera is traded - too much money owed and he's always dinged up these days meaning the Tigs would have to pay a lot of his contract to his new team and get little return for him anyways.

I think there is maybe a 5% chance Verlander is dealt. He has a complete NTC, so only teams I think he'd agree to go to would be Washington (he's from Virginia and went to Old Dominion as well) or Los Angeles Dodgers for the Cali living for his fiancee.

Respectfully disagree with your assessment of 5% odds that JV is dealt. 

 

He's openly stated before that he doesn't want to be a part of a rebuild .  That's clearly what the Tigers need at this point . 

 

Id personally add a zero to that number and give it about 50% chance he's dealt .  Miggy is very very unlikely to be dealt .

 

As a diehard Tigers fan, I think that Justin Wilson, JD, Alex Avila and JV are all likely be traded (in that order) and all have decent value.  Avila would be the most likely in any other scenario, however his Dad is the GM and he's unproven as hell.  Kinsler could be on the move as well

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2 hours ago, motown magic said:

JV has a full no trade clause . Kinsler and JD Martinez who is a FA after the season

 

Which can be waived .  He'll waive if he was traded to say LAD or CHC / a serious contender.  For as good as the tigers have been since JV came up..... they have not won a World Series . This has to eat at a fierce competitor like JV.

 

Kinsler will be much harder to move than JD, but definitely could and should be moved 

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https://www.fanragsports.com/mlb/inside-baseball-9-trades-make-sense-deadline/

 

Jon Heyman predicted trades.

 

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Projecting trades is a tricky and generally unrewarding business. But at the risk of sounding like a caller to sports radio, we will give it a shot here.

Pitching once again will be at the forefront of trade talks, as most every contending team could use arms, starters or relievers (and in many cases both!). But while there will be a lot of buyers of arms, there are expected to be only a couple teams looking for bats; the lack of need there is so extreme folks are wondering whether there will be any market at all for all but the very best of position players.

“There won’t be one (significant) position player traded this year,” one executive bold predicted. We inserted the word “significant” since there will surely be some position players dealt, but possibly just no stars.

For the purposes of this exercise, we will include some substantial everyday players even if they aren’t necessarily all that likely to be dealt. Here goes, our nine trades that make sense.

 

1. Jose Quintana, SP, and Tommy Kahnle, RP, from the White Sox to the Astros for Francis Martes, RHP prospect, and Kyle Tucker, OF prospect.

Some swear the Astros won’t include both their top prospects in a deal for anyone, and maybe they won’t. And word is, they’ve inquired on Julio Teheran and others and are waiting until the end to see if someone even better shakes out (more on that in the AL notes). But in any case, it should take two top-100 prospects to land Quintana, who’s pitching well lately and whose bonus is that he has a very reasonable contract that includes three more years assuming options are picked up. The Astros along with the Pirates and Yankees have been the teams most often connected to Quintana, who could help just about anyone. But the Astros absolutely need to acquire a durable excellent starter to augment their talented but somewhat fragile rotation, and Quintana is as sturdy as they come, by today’s standards, anyway. Beyond that, they’ve never won the World Series, so to quote a great baseball executive: If not now, then when?

 

2. David Robertson, RP, and Anthony Swarzak, RP, from the White Sox to the Nationals for Drew Ward, 3B prospect, Jesus Luzardo, LHP prospect and Pedro Severino, C prospect.

This is close to the deal that was close to happening at the Winter Meetins (without Swarzak and Severino). But at this point, with Robertson performing well (only one blown save), some money off the books with the first half gone (he makes $12 million this year, $13 million next year) and the Nats presumably much more desperate (their wonderful team is being undermined by MLB’s worst bullpen), the Nats should have to sweeten the deal with Severino, a fine defensive catcher and their No. 8 prospect according to MLB.com. Ward and Luzardo are also in their top 15, but that’s OK, they should be desperate. As for Robertson’s contract, it looks pretty reasonable considering the Nats had been ready to give Mark Melancon a $62-million deal (backloaded, no doubt) this winter and they should have to pay a little extra for pulling the plug on a deal they should have made back in December. Melancon could be available again (assuming he comes off the DL) but the closer market looks like it holds the potential to be less than overwhelming, with Alex Colome unlikely to go anywhere (the Rays are in the race), Roberto Osuna having some issues (he wasn’t ready to pitch a couple days ago, he admitted), Kelvin Herrera not going anywhere (more on that in the AL notes) and the aforementioned Melancon off to a so-so start with the Giants. The Marlins’ A.J. Ramos, the Mets’ Addison Reed, the A’s’ Ryan Madson, the Braves’ Jim Johnson and a couple others of that ilk should be out there, but Robertson is probably the best they can do.

 

3. Justin Verlander, SP, and $20 million from the Tigers to the Cubs for Thomas Hatch, RHP prospect, Jose Paulino, LHP prospect, and Jose Rosario, RHP prospect.

These three pitching prospects rank in the top 20 for the Cubs, and while this may seem like less than a haul (it is that), with Verlander up and down this year the Tigers probably can’t expect to get top of the line guys. Hatch was a third rounder and Rosario throws close to 100 mph, and they’d help replenish the Tigers’ system. Verlander could revert to 2016 Cy Young form energized in Chicago, but as one rival pointed out, “There are a lot of innings on that arm.” So it’d be a gamble for the Cubs – though we’d always bet on Verlander. The Cubs’ excellent front office prefers pitchers younger than 30, but has done multi-year deals for guys it knows (Jon Lester and John Lackey). Everyone knows Verlander, and while the $28-million salary seems high at the moment, he has just two guaranteed years left, plus one year with a vesting option, plus a no-trade (more on this in the AL notes). Tigers people understand there is no realistic hope to deal Miguel Cabrera, Justin Upton, Jordan Zimmermann or Victor Martinez, and they have been interested in significantly paring a payroll that’s up there with the big boy Yankees and Dodgers. Verlander is the one guy who could put a major dent in that going forward, and word is the Tigers have identified at least four teams (the Red Sox, Astros and Yankees as well as the Cubs) in addition to the Dodgers who have a chance to have interest. The buzz has been that the Cubs could be their best chance, and Jon Morosi of MLB.com reported that they had called. Regardless, that’s a good place to start.

 

4. Todd Frazier and $5 million from the White Sox to the Red Sox for Bryan Mata, RHP prospect.

Frazier’s market is not so strong after one and a half years with a lot of homers but not a lot of other hits on the South Side of Chicago. So the White Sox would have to pay the bulk of the remainder of his $12-million salary and only hope to get back one solid prospect. Mata is ranked 26th in Boston’s system, which isn’t up to its usual standards. The Red Sox are believed to like Mike Moustakas best if their current third-base tryout (Pablo Sandoval, Jhonny Peralta, Devin Marrero, Josh Rutledge, Tzu-Wei Lin) doesn’t work out, but the Royals are more like now to be a buyer than a seller (more on that in the AL notes). They could go to old friend Jed Lowrie, respected veteran Martin Prado, under-rated Yangervis Solarte (they’d still deal with the Padres, with Pomeranz looking sound and effective), solid David Freese or others, but Frazier might thrive with the Green Monster and the New Jerseyan surely wouldn’t mind his first foray into the northeast.

 

5. Matt Adams, 1B, from the Braves to the Yankees for Dominguez Acevedo, RHP, and Drew Finley, RHP.

The Braves are still holding out some hope that the Freddie Freeman to third base experiment could work (which would allow them to retain Adams as their 1B), but if it doesn’t, from here the Yankees are the most logical trade partner. There is no guarantee Greg Bird will be back this year, Tyler Austin is on the DL and Chris Carter has underperformed so far, meaning the Yankees could easily be in the market for a first baseman (more on this in the AL notes). Yonder Alonso will also be out there, and Lucas Duda could be, too, and any of the three would work (though obviously Duda is probably a longer shot than the others since the Yankees and Mets rarely trade). They could also look instead to Lowrie, or one of two former Yankees — Prado or Solarte – or similar, as they’ve had third-base questions as well. But Adams seems like more of an impact guy.

 

6. Josh Donaldson, 3B, from the Jays to the Cardinals for Alex Reyes, RHP prospect, Delvin Perez, SS prospect, and Magneuris Sierra, OF prospect.

We suggested Donaldson makes sense for the Cardinals in this space last week. However, this one remains a long shot, as it’s hard for some to see the Jays doing something this bold. Whatever the Jays decide, they look like a non-contender from here (they had a brilliant finish after a weak start two years ago but haven’t shown many positive signs so far this year), and this could be a major boost to a potential rebuild, if they are up for it. They didn’t give up this much to get Donaldson in the first place (it was actually the previous regime, led by Alex Anthopoulos that made the trade for Donaldson), and have had use of him for a couple years, but he has only enhanced his value with an MVP performance. One rival exec said Reyes, MLB’s No. 9 overall prospect who missed this year with Tommy John surgery, would almost “have to” be included in any potential Donaldson deal – though perhaps they could do two other top guys in his place, maybe from the nice prospect trio of Luke Weaver and Jack Flaherty, two right-handed pitchers, and Harrison Bader, a late-blooming outfielder, in Reyes’ place perhaps. The Cardinals absolutely need a middle of the order presence (and maybe a little attitude) and the gut here tells me Donaldson would be perfect for St. Louis (more on this in the NL notes). Jedd Gyorko, who’s been quite good again, could move to second to accommodate him.

 

7. Sonny Gray, SP, and Sean Doolittle, RP, from the A’s to the Yankees for Clint Frazier, OF prospect, and Chance Adams, SP prospect.

The Yankees may not think they are ready to win based on their recent play. But if they still believe they are a legit contender, they won’t be afraid to take a chance, and this certainly would qualify as that, with Frazier the No. 17 prospect on the MLB.com list, and Adams No. 94. Gray, if he returns to previous form, would be huge for the rotation, and Doolittle gives the Yankees back their three-headed relief monster (assuming Dellin Betances solves his control issues) from a year ago and a pen to rival the Indians, who have the best in baseball since getting Andrew Miller from the Yankees. Frazier’s carefree personality may be a better fit for the A’s, anyway (it certainly didn’t look great when Frazier, upon his ascension, told the press that his Triple-A manager advised him to be “a good teammate,”); the A’s have a history of free spirits so maybe he’d be an easier fit there. Adams has taken a huge step this year. Oakland could have a terrific sale this July, and this could be the start of it. In fact, yet another A’s player, Yonder Alonso, could work for the Yankees, as well.

 

8. J.D. Martinez, OF, from the Tigers to the Dodgers for Dustin May, RHP prospect, and Josh Sborz, RHP prospect.

Martinez is an impact bat on an expiring contract, so he should draw something pretty significant eventually. The Dodgers don’t love to part with their prospects, but they have a ton of them. Their hitting has been better vs. lefties this year, but Andre Ethier, Franklin Gutierrez and Andrew Toles all are out with injuries, and so is even Adrian Gonzalez, who’d played the most games of anyone since 2006 before he went out to the sidelines this year (super rookie Cody Bellinger could stay at first base). Sborz looked great this spring, but he’s a reliever.

 

9. Brad Hand, RP, from the Padres to the Dodgers for Brock Stewart, RHP prospect and Trevor Oaks, RHP prospect.

Hand is having another fine season in the Padres’ pen, to the point where he could draw multiple prospects. The Padres know the Dodgers’ system as well as anyone since top Padres exec Logan White, their former scouting director, drafted half their prospects. These are two of his picks.

 

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6. Josh Donaldson, 3B, from the Jays to the Cardinals for Alex Reyes, RHP prospect, Delvin Perez, SS prospect, and Magneuris Sierra, OF prospect.

We suggested Donaldson makes sense for the Cardinals in this space last week. However, this one remains a long shot, as it’s hard for some to see the Jays doing something this bold. Whatever the Jays decide, they look like a non-contender from here (they had a brilliant finish after a weak start two years ago but haven’t shown many positive signs so far this year), and this could be a major boost to a potential rebuild, if they are up for it. They didn’t give up this much to get Donaldson in the first place (it was actually the previous regime, led by Alex Anthopoulos that made the trade for Donaldson), and have had use of him for a couple years, but he has only enhanced his value with an MVP performance. One rival exec said Reyes, MLB’s No. 9 overall prospect who missed this year with Tommy John surgery, would almost “have to” be included in any potential Donaldson deal – though perhaps they could do two other top guys in his place, maybe from the nice prospect trio of Luke Weaver and Jack Flaherty, two right-handed pitchers, and Harrison Bader, a late-blooming outfielder, in Reyes’ place perhaps. The Cardinals absolutely need a middle of the order presence (and maybe a little attitude) and the gut here tells me Donaldson would be perfect for St. Louis (more on this in the NL notes). Jedd Gyorko, who’s been quite good again, could move to second to accommodate him.

 

 

lmao ok heyman

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Some of these proposals by Heyman are just nuts.

 

5. Matt Adams, 1B, from the Braves to the Yankees for Dominguez Acevedo, RHP, and Drew Finley, RHP.

The Braves are still holding out some hope that the Freddie Freeman to third base experiment could work (which would allow them to retain Adams as their 1B), but if it doesn’t, from here the Yankees are the most logical trade partner. There is no guarantee Greg Bird will be back this year, Tyler Austin is on the DL and Chris Carter has underperformed so far, meaning the Yankees could easily be in the market for a first baseman (more on this in the AL notes). Yonder Alonso will also be out there, and Lucas Duda could be, too, and any of the three would work (though obviously Duda is probably a longer shot than the others since the Yankees and Mets rarely trade). They could also look instead to Lowrie, or one of two former Yankees — Prado or Solarte – or similar, as they’ve had third-base questions as well. But Adams seems like more of an impact guy.

 

Lol, no. Matt Adams, who is worth nothing? For Acevedo? Okay.

 

Also this? No.

 

2 hours ago, SpecialFNK said:

7. Sonny Gray, SP, and Sean Doolittle, RP, from the A’s to the Yankees for Clint Frazier, OF prospect, and Chance Adams, SP prospect.

The Yankees may not think they are ready to win based on their recent play. But if they still believe they are a legit contender, they won’t be afraid to take a chance, and this certainly would qualify as that, with Frazier the No. 17 prospect on the MLB.com list, and Adams No. 94. Gray, if he returns to previous form, would be huge for the rotation, and Doolittle gives the Yankees back their three-headed relief monster (assuming Dellin Betances solves his control issues) from a year ago and a pen to rival the Indians, who have the best in baseball since getting Andrew Miller from the Yankees. Frazier’s carefree personality may be a better fit for the A’s, anyway (it certainly didn’t look great when Frazier, upon his ascension, told the press that his Triple-A manager advised him to be “a good teammate,”); the A’s have a history of free spirits so maybe he’d be an easier fit there. Adams has taken a huge step this year. Oakland could have a terrific sale this July, and this could be the start of it. In fact, yet another A’s player, Yonder Alonso, could work for the Yankees, as well.

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Some of these proposals by Heyman are just nuts.

 

 

Lol, no. Matt Adams, who is worth nothing? For Acevedo? Okay.

 

Also this? No.

 

 

Adams has .283/.329/.579.908/ 12 HR and 32 RBI in 41 games with the Braves. he has been so valuable to them that they decided to move their MVP caliber 1B to 3B in order to keep Adams in the lineup.

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6 minutes ago, 12to6 said:

Some of these proposals by Heyman are just nuts.

 

 

Lol, no. Matt Adams, who is worth nothing? For Acevedo? Okay.

 

Also this? No.

 

 

I don't think they're laughable.  I'm assuming you're a Yankees fan - you saw what your team got last year, don't be surprised when other teams want top prospects for players.  That's how deadline trades almost always work. 

 

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