TheBoondocks 440 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 He's playing NY tonight. I expect a feast Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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squidthunder 858 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 I haven't gotten a chance to actually watch a Hawks game (being a Canadian, it's pretty much Raps only), so I'm not too informed on how he's doing. It seems the only blimp on getting serious PT his foul issues, and that's kinda expected for a rookie. The Hawks are in serious rebuild mode, and should be developing him the rest of the way Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jake the snake 1,749 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 55 minutes ago, squidthunder said: I haven't gotten a chance to actually watch a Hawks game (being a Canadian, it's pretty much Raps only), so I'm not too informed on how he's doing. It seems the only blimp on getting serious PT his foul issues, and that's kinda expected for a rookie. The Hawks are in serious rebuild mode, and should be developing him the rest of the way Dude...every heard of (not-so) llegal streams...The NBA world is your oyster. I've watched a couple and he just has hops and knows where to be. Smart player. I see him as an Aaron Gordon type. Much better rebounder though, he'll be shooting threes by next year at the latest Quote Link to post Share on other sites
squidthunder 858 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, Jake the snake said: Dude...every heard of (not-so) llegal streams...The NBA world is your oyster. I've watched a couple and he just has hops and knows where to be. Smart player. I see him as an Aaron Gordon type. Much better rebounder though, he'll be shooting threes by next year at the latest oh yea - I got an android box, and can watch most games, but sometime I get lazy and slap on the Raps game lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Preparing the Kool-Aid 210 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 (edited) A look back: http://www.nba.com/article/2017/05/26/despite-impressive-stats-wake-forest-john-collins-deserves-more-attention#/ Quote "A PER of 15.0 is a league average, a baseline by which comparisons can begin. [...] And then there’s Hollinger top of the mountain -- any player who records a PER of 35.0 or above has put together an all-time great season. In 2016-17, John Collins, a 19-year-old, 6-foot-10, 225-pound post player from Wake Forest, produced a PER of 35.9, which led the nation. Since Hollinger began applying his formula to college basketball in 2009, a couple guys you may have heard about were also national PER leaders -- Stephen Curry (Davidson) and Anthony Davis (Kentucky). [...] More amazing is why Collins isn’t projected to be drafted even higher than the late teens. A conversation with Collins reveals an intelligent, driven young man whose story remarkably parallels that of former Wake Forest star Tim Duncan. Teams that don’t consider taking Collins with a lottery pick do so at their own peril. Probably at this very moment, Collins is working on his perceived weaknesses, using the military discipline instilled by his parents -- father John served in the Navy and mother Lyria the Air Force -- and the coaching of Wake Forest’s Danny Manning to become even more efficient, a stone-cold killer on the basketball court. [...] Collins credits Manning with helping him build a complete game and repertoire that allowed him to -- as he was putting together a streak of 12 consecutive 20-plus points games, the most at Wake Forest in more than 40 years -- overcome being double- and sometimes triple-teamed and still be able to produce. “What we continue to talk about is manufactured points,” Manning said during the NCAA tournament. “And for John, we talk about second-chance opportunities, getting to the free-throw line, and then early post-ups in transition. And if he can get anywhere from 10 to 12 points in those categories, we're going to have a chance to have some success throughout the rest of our offense in terms of getting him post touches and just touches in general.” [...] Collins wasn’t a heralded recruit, but the trouble with recruiting rankings is they can’t gauge what’s in a player’s heart, and his mind. They don’t necessarily take into account influences or work ethic. Blessed with size and mobility, Collins was also shaped and molded by, in particular, his mother and an observant youth basketball coach who recognized something special the first time he laid eyes on a seven-year-old Collins. “My mom is my backbone,” Collins said. “I’m used to structure, and the relationship I have with my mom, from a military standpoint, is all about structure. There’s a certain way of doing things." You can recognize some of those things mentioned. E.g. the hustle on boards for second-chance opportunities. Efficiency. The work ethic/measured approach also sounds great going forward. Edited November 24, 2017 by Preparing the Kool-Aid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RCRanger03 608 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 He's a found gold nugget in my OREB and 2x2 league This has been me everytime he gets more minutes: 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbjames6 2,700 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 2 hours ago, TheBoondocks said: He's playing NY tonight. I expect a feast The Knicks are actually one of the best teams defensively at the PF position. They're middle of the pack at C though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RCRanger03 608 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, lbjames6 said: The Knicks are actually one of the best teams defensively at the PF position. They're middle of the pack at C though. Using those Ryan Knaus charts I see haha 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
squidthunder 858 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, lbjames6 said: The Knicks are actually one of the best teams defensively at the PF position. They're middle of the pack at C though. Would he be guarding the Unicorn? Edited November 24, 2017 by squidthunder Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RipCity0 759 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 25 minutes ago, squidthunder said: Would he be guarding the Unicorn? I watched only a few first half minutes of his game against Clippers and it was Collins guarding Jordan and Dedmon guarding Griffin. For me it didn't make sense and I think even the commentators wondered why this is happening. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbjames6 2,700 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 1 hour ago, squidthunder said: Would he be guarding the Unicorn? I'll be honest, I'm not sure. As @RipCity0 said, they had a weird defensive assignment in the Clippers game. I'll be watching the game closely for sure though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jake the snake 1,749 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 2 hours ago, squidthunder said: oh yea - I got an android box, and can watch most games, but sometime I get lazy and slap on the Raps game lol Oh don't get me wrong I watch most of them myself, but its definitely worth watching other teams too. Atlanta...I must admit haven't been the best games I've seen. Although it was fun watching them beat the Cavs. So glad I dropped Prince for Collins though (yes shallowER league...Prince is not pleasant viewing) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jake the snake 1,749 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 1 hour ago, RCRanger03 said: He's a found gold nugget in my OREB and 2x2 league This has been me everytime he gets more minutes: Those two dudes are totally about to kiss that guy up the side of his head with that there stone and run away with his gold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brosephd 1,347 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 starting again tonight...now he'll never get drop. time to window shop this thread all season Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kane 2,886 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 say hello to our FG% anchor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RCRanger03 608 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Was taken out with a minute left in the 3rd and hasn't come back in... He had a good game going, and only 3 fouls. Not sure what the reasoning was there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RipCity0 759 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 9 minutes ago, RCRanger03 said: Was taken out with a minute left in the 3rd and hasn't come back in... He had a good game going, and only 3 fouls. Not sure what the reasoning was there It's good to win from time to time so they went with the lineup that was rolling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ejaggit 160 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 I’m on board folks. Got him for tonight... dropped Ryann Anderson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RCRanger03 608 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Saw on my team page he’s been a non impact in the first quarter... I never read much into The Baptist lines until the final whistle, he’s a microwave and seems like he can turn a nothing line into a rock solid one in 2 minutes flat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThisIsSparta 261 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Garbage time special coming up. Give your owners a wonderful stat line! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kane 2,886 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 WTF,he is on the bench in garbage time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HK-47 352 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, kane said: WTF,he is on the bench in garbage time He was a starter...why would he be on the court during garbage time and or a blowout? Edited November 26, 2017 by HK-47 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tekno Team 2000 1,631 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, ThisIsSparta said: Garbage time special coming up. Give your owners a wonderful stat line! Dont think he is coming back in. Being treated like a starter now. I guess that's a good thing long term and he is starting permanently from here on out. Sucks for today's line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
meteorya 45 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 In last 8 games only in one game were block(s). Hm with big minutes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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