rsxnova 27 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 On 10/4/2017 at 9:13 AM, rob0403 said: K Faried can't block shots though. This guy looks like he can protect the rim better. My comparison is that he can probably put up stats, but his defense will be turrible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheBoondocks 433 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Took him with my very last pick in the 13th round. I have Dedmon too so I'll employ a wait-and-see approach to how their frontcourt shapes up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbc88 210 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) I'm just boxscore surfing but so far I like what I'm seeing. Solid minutes and production from the rookie. Edited October 19, 2017 by lbc88 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aunt Jemima 44 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 dude can ball Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ComeOnAndSlam 521 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 I know next to nothing about this guy. Can he play PF alongside Dedmon or is it mostly one or the other? It seems like he's mainly an interior guy but not necessarily a defensive anchor like the coaches might want ala Dedmon? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tazdingo 363 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Ideally, the Hawks need to start him. I'm not seeing Prince or Dedmon as a sure fire number 2 scoring option. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trench Mob 1,660 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) Hmm. He seems like a good player. Might add him for my points league. Someone already taken him in my Roto league. Eh... Added. Edited October 19, 2017 by Trench Mob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CFN 1,646 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 hour ago, ComeOnAndSlam said: I know next to nothing about this guy. Can he play PF alongside Dedmon or is it mostly one or the other? It seems like he's mainly an interior guy but not necessarily a defensive anchor like the coaches might want ala Dedmon? He can absolutely play PF next do Dedmon. He has decent range, he's quick, and can jump out of the gym. He looked amazing tonight. Can't wait until they post his highlights on YouTube. I'd add him while you can. There will definitely be some ups and downs, but you have to be pleased with what he showed tonight. The Hawks roster is somewhat depleted. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ComeOnAndSlam 521 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, CFN said: He can absolutely play PF next do Dedmon. He has decent range, he's quick, and can jump out of the gym. He looked amazing tonight. Can't wait until they post his highlights on YouTube. I'd add him while you can. There will definitely be some ups and downs, but you have to be pleased with what he showed tonight. The Hawks roster is somewhat depleted. Thanks. how is he defensively though? I've read a lot about how he's meant to be an above average rebounder but how does he go as a rim protector, help defender or at the very least defending his man 1v1? You're absolutely right about the Hawks roster. Looking at it and their frontcourt rotation is hideous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bloop343 5 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 If I have Dedmon, should I stash Collins as well? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ballinOnaBudget 13 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Would you drop fultz and pick up collins? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rsxnova 27 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 hour ago, ballinOnaBudget said: Would you drop fultz and pick up collins? No Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gdupm6 493 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 2 hours ago, ballinOnaBudget said: Would you drop fultz and pick up collins? wrong forum Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackdonald 166 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 I’m just worried that they won’t play him much Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kmoore1521 1,451 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 14 minutes ago, mackdonald said: I’m just worried that they won’t play him much agree coaches are stupid when it comes to limiting rookies mins even when they have NOBODY else wait and see but eventually will be worth an add Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philzilla 170 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 This kid won't last another 48 hours on the wire in competitive leagues. Last call. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kmoore1521 1,451 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, Philzilla said: This kid won't last another 48 hours on the wire in competitive leagues. Last call. Hawks coach Mike Budenholzer liked what he saw out of John Collins in his NBA debut. In case you missed it, the rookie big man scored 14 points with five rebounds, one assist, two steals and one turnover in 22 minutes vs. Dallas on Wednesday. "I thought it was a good first step," Budenholzer said. "There’s things he’s going to have to work on and improve. But I just love his effort, and just his enthusiasm for getting better every day." Collins said he prides himself on "being around the basket, trying to get extra possessions, offensive rebounds, defensive rebounds, put-backs, dunks," and his energy levels will make it hard for the coaching staff to keep him off the floor. hmmm maybe this coach wont be dumb and let his young guys play we'll see if your right, 48 hours starts now tick tock! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mcflywalker 1,119 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 I nabbed him in two leagues. I'd be happy with an increase to 25 MPG for now, and another jump later. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alexstr 694 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 His name sounds like a boring drink you order at a bar "One John Collins please" 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mcflywalker 1,119 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, alexstr said: His name sounds like a boring drink you order at a bar "One John Collins please" I'll have a John Collins on the Atlanta Rocks. That's probably the worst pun I've made all year. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CFN 1,646 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 17 hours ago, CFN said: He can absolutely play PF next do Dedmon. He has decent range, he's quick, and can jump out of the gym. He looked amazing tonight. Can't wait until they post his highlights on YouTube. I'd add him while you can. There will definitely be some ups and downs, but you have to be pleased with what he showed tonight. The Hawks roster is somewhat depleted. As promised 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
t3ddyb34r 25 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 What sort of projections are we expecting from him ROS? I'm getting a Marqueese Chriss vibe from him but wonder how he is for stocks? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
miasma16 3,344 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 1 hour ago, t3ddyb34r said: What sort of projections are we expecting from him ROS? I'm getting a Marqueese Chriss vibe from him but wonder how he is for stocks? They're pretty similar. Chriss is the better fantasy property until proven otherwise. As far as stocks, specifically, Collins is a bit worse, particularly in steals. Say he gets 22mpg on the season. He'll average about 11-7-1-.5-1. Decent efficiency stats. Can't shoot. But beyond the expected good blocks and the very good rebounds, you're getting more potential out of him than someone 5-10 years older. Do with that what you will. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Chambers 1,667 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Chriss has no fundamentals, Collins has all fundamentals. Chriss' game depends on athleticism and while Collins has some, his game is not dependent on it. I don't think they're all that similar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aunt Jemima 44 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 he runs the floor so well for a big guy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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