j3rkthenurk 816 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 9 hours ago, scienze said: lol u and every1 else in this thread acting like they hit a goldmine by picking him up He will come back. I dont understand why some people like you don't see he has the potential to be a very decent fantasy player this year. After the ASB, he should play a lot more minutes like he did when he started. By the ATL will be in "tank mode". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scienze 102 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 4 hours ago, j3rkthenurk said: He will come back. I dont understand why some people like you don't see he has the potential to be a very decent fantasy player this year. After the ASB, he should play a lot more minutes like he did when he started. By the ATL will be in "tank mode". potential is one thing .. in this thread, cats acting like he’s already there lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrewCityBBQ 192 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 @scienze so what is your agenda here? I admittedly havent read through the entire John Collins thread. But are you on a one man crusade to fight back against the Collins apologists or something? Do you own the guy on your team? Whats your vested interest here? Did you miss out on him? Or rather drop him and someone else grabbed him and you cant get him back? I guess I dont get why you care so much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trusthaprocess 463 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, BrewCityBBQ said: @scienze so what is your agenda here? I admittedly havent read through the entire John Collins thread. But are you on a one man crusade to fight back against the Collins apologists or something? Do you own the guy on your team? Whats your vested interest here? Did you miss out on him? Or rather drop him and someone else grabbed him and you cant get him back? I guess I dont get why you care so much. He's being negative...Collins doesn't have to be there, he's only a rookie. The fact that we have seen him have numerous games of multiple blocks and steals, and uber high FG%, means is is worth holding. I'm willing to put up with little cold streaks like this, because I've already seen a sizable track record of his production. Hold tight y'all, there aren't many players with his upside on the wire, unless Bell and Chriss have been snatched up already. I have Chriss myself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OKCFan2005 40 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I'll take Collins over Chriss. 10 teamer 9 cat 1 IL spot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trusthaprocess 463 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, OKCFan2005 said: I'll take Collins over Chriss. 10 teamer 9 cat 1 IL spot The jury is still out on that one. After how Chriss has been playing these past 5 games, I would take Chriss. Collins is limited in that he doesn't shoot 3's. Chriss gives you the stocks while also making 3's. That's a rare skill set to find in the league today, let alone fantasy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OKCFan2005 40 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, trusthaprocess said: The jury is still out on that one. After how Chriss has been playing these past 5 games, I would take Chriss. Collins is limited in that he doesn't shoot 3's. Chriss gives you the stocks while also making 3's. That's a rare skill set to find in the league today, let alone fantasy. True, good points. I just like the fact that Collins is still (barely) back from injury and doing what he's doing, even though their is some inconsistency there. ATL has no one...(Baze?) Phoenix needs to trade some people to make me trust Chriss game more. Minus the last 5 games he's been way more inconsistent (season) than Collins has Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wideopen21 1,920 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 22 minutes ago, trusthaprocess said: The jury is still out on that one. After how Chriss has been playing these past 5 games, I would take Chriss. Collins is limited in that he doesn't shoot 3's. Chriss gives you the stocks while also making 3's. That's a rare skill set to find in the league today, let alone fantasy. 14 minutes ago, OKCFan2005 said: True, good points. I just like the fact that Collins is still (barely) back from injury and doing what he's doing, even though their is some inconsistency there. ATL has no one...(Baze?) Phoenix needs to trade some people to make me trust Chriss game more. Minus the last 5 games he's been way more inconsistent (season) than Collins has The Hawks are 10-27. There will come a point this season when Collins will start and will become a more featured player. Chriss has more talent, but Collins seems be a much better basketball player with a higher BB IQ. I own both in a keeper league so I hope they both do well, but I would put my money on Collins in the long term over Chriss. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Preparing the Kool-Aid 210 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) Haven't been watching the games lately, but the FG% seems like an aberration compared to his usual numbers. Not hitting his shots in the past few games. Any specific reason? Edited January 3, 2018 by Preparing the Kool-Aid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OKCFan2005 40 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I would assume a lot of it has to do with him only getting around 20 minutes a game (right now) and still coming back from that shoulder injury. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rameshdataya 139 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 or perhaps his shoulder is still an issue? that probably explains why the hawks are still limiting him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
miasma16 3,344 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Last night he sucked in a close game, was really bizarre that people were lobbying so hard for Bud's head and more minutes for Collins. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j3rkthenurk 816 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, miasma16 said: Last night he sucked in a close game, was really bizarre that people were lobbying so hard for Bud's head and more minutes for Collins. Still needs more time for his development and for a team like Atlanta that is all they can ask for. Playing Plumlee minutes is a crime. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MynameisMudd 319 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 So some say "Collins playing a lot could ruin a tank, he's that good....so they don't play him a ton" ..some say " hey look how bad Collins did, that's why he doesn't play." So which is it? Truth be told they aren't ready to completely let him play through his growing pains. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Silverdome_Loyal 84 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Been a fun ride gents - wise man once said “gotta know when to hold em, and know when to fold em” ... that man also said “never piss into the wind” — hard cuts but 15$ in a Keeper league I’ll pass — Chriss the true chip ✌? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tekno Team 2000 1,576 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Um yeah it’s time to drop. He is complete and utter garbage!!!!!! No, seriously he is a hold for sure. I would just bench him (Roto) before ever thinking about dropping. Defensive stats are still there so offensively our FG% beast will get it back up. Too much talent not to. But what sucks is right before the injury he was starting. Really halted his momentum. Hopefully he gets to start again soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rt00dt00 17 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Drop city!!!!! 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ugr23 8 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 It's time to drop him. He does nothing and right now it's useless to keep him. If he starts to play the way he had played before he got injured, then i'll try to have him again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scienze 102 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 10:39 AM, BrewCityBBQ said: @scienze so what is your agenda here? I admittedly havent read through the entire John Collins thread. But are you on a one man crusade to fight back against the Collins apologists or something? Do you own the guy on your team? Whats your vested interest here? Did you miss out on him? Or rather drop him and someone else grabbed him and you cant get him back? I guess I dont get why you care so much. i posted about how i was using him as a streamer and a buncha dudes in here acted like i was insane for not holding lol i just find it funny how guys get so invested in hot free agents they picked up who end up being borderline rosterable Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NBA_OG 646 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 hour ago, scienze said: i posted about how i was using him as a streamer and a buncha dudes in here acted like i was insane for not holding lol i just find it funny how guys get so invested in hot free agents they picked up who end up being borderline rosterable You're not insane but maybe a little impatient yeah. The long term outlook of Collins is great despite the little struggles here and there. And if you think today's game from Collins is crappy, I will take 7 pts 5 rebs 2 steals 1 block from an FA any day in a 12 team league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hardyharhar 242 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Doesn't he look like Jaden Smith lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ejaggit 160 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 My week depends on him getting a couple boards... C'mon kid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RCRanger03 608 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Played only 3 minutes got 5pts 1reb 2blks and 3pm then got yanked with no fouls... Can someone watching the hawks please explain what the hell is going on! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hardyharhar 242 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, RCRanger03 said: Played only 3 minutes got 5pts 1reb 2blks and 3pm then got yanked with no fouls... Can someone watching the hawks please explain what the hell is going on! he got smacked in the mouth and was bleeding 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RCRanger03 608 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, jamaal99 said: watch a game for godssake You'll be happy to know that I'm watching Suns OKC at a bar. Just not watching the Hawks hence the question We can't watch all the games at once, good thing there's helpful people like Hardyharhar 6 minutes ago, hardyharhar said: he got smacked in the mouth and was bleeding Thanks bro! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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