brosephd 1,308 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 hold until trade deadline, hold until ASB, hold until off season, no but really... i dont blame collins just the situation of bud. and i dont want to premature drop to see him blow up on someone elses team 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
meteorya 45 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Dropped early this week for Brook (I'm going for punt rebound next playoff round). Tired for waiting minutes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rush007 332 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 3 hours ago, brosephd said: hold until trade deadline, hold until ASB, hold until off season, no but really... i dont blame collins just the situation of bud. and i dont want to premature drop to see him blow up on someone elses team Yeah, post-deadline, Collins still gets 20 mins, vs Ilyasova's 26 on the worst team in the league. Collins is sadly losing his appeal, because of this ridiculous situation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NBA_OG 646 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I am still holding on but just fyi everyone- currently we are on week 17 and for those who are in h2h, playoffs starts on week 22. Just saying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ragrag 1,494 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, NBA_OG said: I am still holding on but just fyi everyone- currently we are on week 17 and for those who are in h2h, playoffs starts on week 22. Just saying. I’ve got him in a keeper league so holding regardless but ya for those redraft/single season formats it’s gonna be a tough hold. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
krupocin 799 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 45 minutes ago, ragrag said: I’ve got him in a keeper league so holding regardless but ya for those redraft/single season formats it’s gonna be a tough hold. He’s really not a tough hold at all unless you’re in an extremely shallow league or one with a lot of inactive teams in which case strategy probably isn’t as important as health. He’s a top 100 player who despite his dud last night generally puts up solid lines. If you’re relying on him, a guy who was basically drafted in 0 fantasy leagues, as one of your key guys that’s a problem in the first place either because you lost half your team to injury or drafted really badly in the first place. I am a little surprised the Hawks are still playing their irrelevant guys so much but you gotta think it’s much less likely for him to hit the rookie wall Bc of this. Think about all the rookies in past years who put up solid # in the fantasy playoffs on bottom 10 teams who start to rest their vets. I see Collins as a guy who you can use end of your bench as a serviceable fill in until that part of the season happens. The benefit is that you can actually hold him without worrying about someone else grabbing him like you would with other young guys who aren’t producing enough yet. I have him in Keeper and a competitive 12 team redraft and have never thought once about dropping him. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ak427 628 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, krupocin said: He’s really not a tough hold at all unless you’re in an extremely shallow league or one with a lot of inactive teams in which case strategy probably isn’t as important as health. He’s a top 100 player who despite his dud last night generally puts up solid lines. If you’re relying on him, a guy who was basically drafted in 0 fantasy leagues, as one of your key guys that’s a problem in the first place either because you lost half your team to injury or drafted really badly in the first place. I am a little surprised the Hawks are still playing their irrelevant guys so much but you gotta think it’s much less likely for him to hit the rookie wall Bc of this. Think about all the rookies in past years who put up solid # in the fantasy playoffs on bottom 10 teams who start to rest their vets. I see Collins as a guy who you can use end of your bench as a serviceable fill in until that part of the season happens. The benefit is that you can actually hold him without worrying about someone else grabbing him like you would with other young guys who aren’t producing enough yet. I have him in Keeper and a competitive 12 team redraft and have never thought once about dropping him. Exactly. If I dropped him in my 14 team league, he would get scooped up so fast I wouldn't even have time to blink. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
miasma16 3,344 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 16 hours ago, brosephd said: hold until trade deadline, hold until ASB, hold until off season, no but really... i dont blame collins just the situation of bud. and i dont want to premature drop to see him blow up on someone elses team It's always been after the break, that's what coaches always wait for in theee situations. If he's not getting big minutes out of the gate at that point it's not gonna happen. Again, Top 90? on the year so there's no need to break a sweat about it. He's set and forget for the most part. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ItaliaBBALL 148 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I think we all expected John Collins to go through the exact transition Jarrett Allen is going through. It baffles me that the tanking Hawks have not started him since his injury, but I see him getting a very solid run post ASB. However, that may not be enough for a lot of the leagues that have early playoffs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ejaggit 160 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 8 hours ago, ItaliaBBALL said: I think we all expected John Collins to go through the exact transition Jarrett Allen is going through. It baffles me that the tanking Hawks have not started him since his injury, but I see him getting a very solid run post ASB. However, that may not be enough for a lot of the leagues that have early playoffs. It's funny how I own both anticipating at least one to snap.... But unfortunately both aren't getting enough shine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RipCity0 735 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Plumlee looks like being out of the rotation today. That's a good start although for today it didn't really help with all these fouls. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrotherMouzone 36 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 23 hours ago, ItaliaBBALL said: It baffles me that the tanking Hawks have not started him since his injury... That's the problem, though. The premise that Collins will "break out" is based on the belief that every coach thinks that just throwing a young guy out on the floor to play big minutes is the best thing for his development. That is not always the right move, especially for a big guy who has to get used to the physicality of the NBA and the wear and tear over an 82-game schedule. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markus85 159 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Fouled out today - but 9/3/3 in 18 minutes isn't terrible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ak427 628 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Bad news is he fouled out. Good news is it looks like Plumlee is finally out of the rotation. Now we just need Ersan to kick rocks and it should be him and Dedmon at the 4 and 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cdd10 1,194 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Dedmon is sticking in the starting lineup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ejaggit 160 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Drop city anyone? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NBA_OG 646 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, ejaggit said: Drop city anyone? If Hawks want to rebuild and Plumlee out, there is one more player that shouldn't be in the starting- Ersan aka Ghostface Ilya. Post all-star will be the time for me to decide. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ejaggit 160 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 2 hours ago, NBA_OG said: If Hawks want to rebuild and Plumlee out, there is one more player that shouldn't be in the starting- Ersan aka Ghostface Ilya. Post all-star will be the time for me to decide. Yeah. You're right. I'm just scared though. Dwight Powell is on the WW and obviously Dirk gets big rest come playoff time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
miasma16 3,344 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 3 hours ago, ejaggit said: Drop city anyone? Really tired of seeing the same post over and over again. If you want to drop a rookie that's been a Top 100 player on the season, stop talking about it and do it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ejaggit 160 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, miasma16 said: Really tired of seeing the same post over and over again. If you want to drop a rookie that's been a Top 100 player on the season, stop talking about it and do it. Umm.. I was asking what people thought? Glad to know your stance on it. Lol. Edited February 12, 2018 by ejaggit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cdd10 1,194 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 1 hour ago, miasma16 said: Really tired of seeing the same post over and over again. If you want to drop a rookie that's been a Top 100 player on the season, stop talking about it and do it. rankings? who goes by rankings!? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
miasma16 3,344 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Just now, cdd10 said: rankings? who goes by rankings!? People that aren't terrible at fantasy? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cdd10 1,194 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Just now, miasma16 said: People that aren't terrible at fantasy? oh yeah i forgot! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cdd10 1,194 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, miasma16 said: People that aren't terrible at fantasy? ranked 115 in my 10 team points, still holding though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NBA_OG 646 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 5 hours ago, ejaggit said: Yeah. You're right. I'm just scared though. Dwight Powell is on the WW and obviously Dirk gets big rest come playoff time Collins has the upside in blocks. For my team's build, I need to win blocks so it'd be my preference of Powell. Can also consider Bam Abadeyo. Collins' minutes is really out of our control but my line is post all star break. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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