Judicious 197 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Last year as a lottery pick this guy was getting Dwade comparisons. Then he struggled on a Wolves team where he barely got to play, and couldn't hit the side of a barn. When given some run at the end of the season however he had some impressive lines (one game like 7 stocks combined, had 16 assists last game of the season). This year the guy is an afterthought even though he was a key piece in a trade of Jimmy Butler. The Bulls bought-out Wade, and Lavine isn't going to be healthy to start the season...which means their backcourt minutes and usage are entirely up for grabs. I still predict an awful field goal, but I think he will get 5-6 assists, 2+ steals, with 4+ rebounds a game. Anyone taking a chance on him? I think he has a good a shot of producing as any of the rookie point guards people are reaching for, and he can usually be had with your last pick. Who is buying low on the Dunn hype train? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bballshinobi 1,461 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I was really high on him last year until he proved that he didn't know how to play professional basketball yet. If Fred Hoiberg and the Bulls embrace the tank and let him make mistakes then I can see him put up useful volume stats alongwith awful efficiency. I thought he was gonna be a poor man's John Wall, but he was looking more like a Mudiay last year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Purple Hippo 1,365 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I took him with my last pick. If nothing else the guy can rack up an elite number of steals. With the opportunity he has to play major minutes he's worth a slot on my bench. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gorgeous George 424 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 A last round flier. Should get lots of steals and may cripple you everywhere else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HarmStrong 615 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Surprising amount of blocks given his limited playing time and position. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MONEY BALL 357 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Should provide elite steals and decent assist and rebounds around 26 to 28 minutes per game in a semi-timeshare with Grant. His efficiency is another thing though. I don't think he's as bad a free throw shooter as projected, but he's certainly gonna damage your FG%. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MONEY BALL 357 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 He did good yesterday. Tonight was just wasn't his night. At least he's still providing the popcorn stats. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhythms 133 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Jerian Grant is going to start over him and could actually be a productive nba player. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MONEY BALL 357 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, Rhythms said: Jerian Grant is going to start over him and could actually be a productive nba player. You do realize Dunn was the main centerpiece of that Butler trade, right? People already know what Jerian Grant is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
miasma16 3,344 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Dunn is a baller. Draft him to fit your team, though, because he's going to have poor efficiency but great counting stats for where he's going. I think he's a bit undervalued. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Rhythms 133 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Just now, MONEY BALL said: You do realize Dunn was the main centerpiece of that Butler trade, right? People already know what Jerian Grant is. You do realize that Dunn is and has always been garbage in the nba, right? This is a guy that Thibs wanted to start over Rubio. If Dunn had any semblance of nba talent, he would have shown it given the minutes he's played last year and got rubio traded. The NBA is very merit based. If you can't play it doesn't matter where you were drafted (Anthony Bennett, Darko Milicic, Hasheem Thabeet to name a few) you're not going to get minutes. If you can play it doesn't matter where you get drafted you're going to work your way into minutes. Jerian Grant is bad but atleast he can do something on the offensive end. Kris Dunn is a good defender though, I'll give you that. Hopefully I'm wrong, but what does it say about Kris Dunn when he can't even show enough to win the starting job (either in summer league, training camp or in preseason) over Jerian Grant, quite possibly the 60th best pg last year. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BbFlyEmCeE 68 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, MONEY BALL said: You do realize Dunn was the main centerpiece of that Butler trade, right? People already know what Jerian Grant is. We also realized that can Cameron Payne was brought in for Taj & Doug. This move has already proved to be a mistake. This front office is just that bad. Grant is a more competent basket-ball player it's as simple as that. Dunn is nothing but potential & teasing at this point. Edited October 5, 2017 by BbFlyEmCeE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Purple Hippo 1,365 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 He's looked terrible offensively but has still put up 2 steals and 4.5 dimes per game in about 20 minutes per. Those numbers are very tough to find off waivers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BetterCallHinkie 531 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 This guy was so good, so confident in summer league last year. It's like the monstars took his talents right before last season kicked off and have yet to return it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
miasma16 3,344 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Rhythms said: You do realize that Dunn is and has always been garbage in the nba, right? This is a guy that Thibs wanted to start over Rubio. If Dunn had any semblance of nba talent, he would have shown it given the minutes he's played last year and got rubio traded. The NBA is very merit based. If you can't play it doesn't matter where you were drafted (Anthony Bennett, Darko Milicic, Hasheem Thabeet to name a few) you're not going to get minutes. If you can play it doesn't matter where you get drafted you're going to work your way into minutes. Jerian Grant is bad but atleast he can do something on the offensive end. Kris Dunn is a good defender though, I'll give you that. Hopefully I'm wrong, but what does it say about Kris Dunn when he can't even show enough to win the starting job (either in summer league, training camp or in preseason) over Jerian Grant, quite possibly the 60th best pg last year. What are you talking about? Dunn was a rookie last year, and Rubio is one of the most underrated players in the NBA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhythms 133 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, miasma16 said: What are you talking about? Dunn was a rookie last year, and Rubio is one of the most underrated players in the NBA. Wolves drafted Dunn to replace Rubio. The plan was to trade rubio by midseason and have Dunn start, but he was so bad that they couldn't trade rubio Quote Link to post Share on other sites
miasma16 3,344 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Just now, Rhythms said: Wolves drafted Dunn to replace Rubio. The plan was to trade rubio by midseason and have Dunn start, but he was so bad that they couldn't trade rubio Doesn't address what I said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhythms 133 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, miasma16 said: Doesn't address what I said. Read the post you originally replied to. 2 hours ago, Rhythms said: This is a guy that Thibs wanted to start over Rubio. If Dunn had any semblance of nba talent, he would have shown it given the minutes he's played last year and got rubio traded. Edited October 5, 2017 by Rhythms Quote Link to post Share on other sites
miasma16 3,344 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Rhythms said: Read the post you originally replied to. Rubio is and was better than Dunn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhythms 133 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Just now, miasma16 said: Rubio is and was better than Dunn. So is every other PG in the nba apparently if he can't outplay Jerian Grant for the starting job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
miasma16 3,344 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Just now, Rhythms said: So is every other PG in the nba apparently if he can't outplay Jerian Grant for the starting job. He started tonight. Again, what are you talking about? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhythms 133 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, miasma16 said: He started tonight. Again, what are you talking about? He was penciled in as the defacto starter after the trade and the fact that Jerian grant is getting looks as the starting pg AND outplaying Dunn shows how bad Dunn is. edit: I'm didn't watch the beginning of the game but it looks like Grant started again according to the Box score so I'm pretty sure your rebuttal is just bull. Edited October 5, 2017 by Rhythms Quote Link to post Share on other sites
miasma16 3,344 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rhythms said: He was penciled in as the defacto starter after the trade and the fact that Jerian grant is getting looks as the starting pg AND outplaying Dunn shows how bad Dunn is. No, actually, 2 preseason games don't show that at all. Neither does one rookie playing behind a better player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhythms 133 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 1 minute ago, miasma16 said: No, actually, 2 preseason games don't show that at all. Neither does one rookie playing behind a better player. I'm pretty sure he was outplayed in training camp too. That's why Jerian was the surprise starter for the bulls in preseason. It's one thing for a rookie playing behind a better player, but it's another to be completely garbage for the whole nba season and outplayed by the 3rd string Tyus Jones that's younger than you. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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