hardyharhar 246 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 30 minutes ago, bearlucked said: great lines lately but opposing team metrics on D have been pretty miserable (pho, cha, sa, ind, even tor). pretty sure he will struggle pretty badly and make it truly hard to own him against good defenses but i’ll hold him. By defensive rating. Phoenix is 28th, Charlotte is 12th, SA is 5th, Indiana is 18th, Toronto is 11th. Also, only the really good players in the league don't struggle against good defenses (and even some of them do sometimes). You act as if that's a deal breaker. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GmGodine 327 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, hardyharhar said: By defensive rating. Phoenix is 28th, Charlotte is 12th, SA is 5th, Indiana is 18th, Toronto is 11th. Also, only the really good players in the league don't struggle against good defenses (and even some of them do sometimes). You act as if that's a deal breaker. Did he seriously listed Spurs as a team with bad defense? Wow Edited November 21, 2017 by GmGodine 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bhkim814 910 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 STARTING 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pdids911 513 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 its... happening...? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K50K 692 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Hmm....... could be a good replacement for Millsap’s steals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ejaggit 160 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, bhkim814 said: STARTING I'm in a tough position... should i pick him up? Hmmmmmm i feel like this'll be something i'll regret. starting pg for a bad team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bearlucked 17 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 17 hours ago, GmGodine said: Did he seriously listed Spurs as a team with bad defense? Wow Spurs have been bad the last week and a half, not atrocious, but definitely not good. Cha/Tor have been all over the place. I am just saying that Dunn is a great low end guy, and I hope he suceeds, but he’s putting up top 60ish value... There’s an influx of young rookie/second year players putting up top 70ish numbers in the past 2 weeks that it makes me skeptical about how sustainable it all is... I love Dunn’s statlines, but it seems a bit too good to be sustainable is all... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ejaggit 160 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, bearlucked said: Spurs have been bad the last week and a half, not atrocious, but definitely not good. Cha/Tor have been all over the place. I am just saying that Dunn is a great low end guy, and I hope he suceeds, but he’s putting up top 60ish value... There’s an influx of young rookie/second year players putting up top 70ish numbers in the past 2 weeks that it makes me skeptical about how sustainable it all is... I love Dunn’s statlines, but it seems a bit too good to be sustainable is all... How so ? If he's the starting PG for a team like the Bulls... Where it'll be him and LaVine doing most of the work on offense... I just don't see his rebs, steals to go down... I could see an increase in TO and fg%... What makes you believe he's going to slow down? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Code of Hammurabi 4,375 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) Edited November 22, 2017 by Code of Hammurabi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pdids911 513 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 im really worried about his efficiency - i feel like his next 1/11 and 6 to game is right around the corner. worth selling high now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tekno Team 2000 1,619 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, pdids911 said: im really worried about his efficiency - i feel like his next 1/11 and 6 to game is right around the corner. worth selling high now? He probably will have another game like that. But the good games will outweigh the bad and I think the percentages (FG% in particular) will be better than everyone thinks. It will definitely stay better than last year. I would stay put. If you sell high now so be it. But if not, you will certainly enjoy the elite steals! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bearlucked 17 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) 31 minutes ago, ejaggit said: How so ? If he's the starting PG for a team like the Bulls... Where it'll be him and LaVine doing most of the work on offense... I just don't see his rebs, steals to go down... I could see an increase in TO and fg%... What makes you believe he's going to slow down? on paper there are 30 ‘starting’ pgs in the league, some of them are 12 teamers, others are fringe/streamers. it’s hard to tell this early which he is. #1 he’s young, it’s hard to gauge his production with respect to his short career so far. #2, his minutes aren’t set in stone. he is getting minutes which is why we own him. but is he really a 28-30 minute starting pg in the league? he could be, but currently there’s like 10 1st/2nd year players getting fantasy meaningful minutes and that seems like a lot. In a perfect league all or most of the top 150 “should” be owned, but it never works out that way. some some players fall off a cliff, others get traded, and usually as owners we’ll have a lineup that consists of 10 guys who are ownable in a particular build, +3 guys that are either a flier/stash/streamer/injured/etc... Is the bulls as a team going to produce enough (in fantasy terms) for us to consider all of Dunn/Lavine/Lopez/Markannen/Valentine etc... as holdable? it’s a question mark for sure. I love Dunn as a fantasy player, and I don’t think it’s wrong to hold him but it’s like, every owner will be naturally (and rightfully) optimistic about a player they own. i am holding and benefiting from adding him myself. I just feel that some of these players, such as... donovan mitchell, jayson tatum, kuzma, murray, etc etc... many of which I own, more likely than not, will end up not being ownable ina month or so. maybe dunn is a much better fantasy player than the ones that i’ve mentioned, but it’s not like 50 of the top 150 from last year straight up went and retired or got moved right? i’m just saying only so many players can be relevant at one time, and there seems like a bit too many at the moment, one of which might or might not be dunn. that’s all. sry for the long read* Edited November 22, 2017 by bearlucked 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bearlucked 17 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 for the record though, for those of u that might be trying to ‘sell high’ he might not hold much value in a trade. i would rather hold to see if he pans out or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trench Mob 1,691 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 30 FPTS over the last week in a points league. 30. I'm pretty satisfied with him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K50K 692 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 So I haven’t seen this guy actually play yet. Who does his game/skill set remind you of from past or present? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pdids911 513 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 pat beverly with less of a 3 pt shot. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sickrookie 403 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Probably Marcus Smart with some upside, especially 2 steal a game. Top 100 value if he stays healthy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bhkim814 910 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, K50K said: So I haven’t seen this guy actually play yet. Who does his game/skill set remind you of from past or present? John wall in his rookie/early days. https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4716/ Strong and defensive minded. Slashing pg that was TO prone. Shot around similar to Dunn. Edited November 22, 2017 by bhkim814 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ace_King 598 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Odds that he settles in as a 5-6 APG guy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tekno Team 2000 1,619 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Ace_King said: Odds that he settles in as a 5-6 APG guy? Probably more 4.5-5 range. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ace_King 598 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, Tekno Team 2000 said: Probably more 4.5-5 range. I would still take that with the elite steals and double digit scoring. Grant as a starter was around 7 but Dunn is appears to be a dropoff as a passer, despite being the better overall player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
samer42 173 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 We all saw this performance coming lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
prefuse1 75 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Ugly offensive game the kid has... Makes low IQ passes and doesn't try to score when the lanes are open. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gorgeous George 424 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Is this kid the Forrest Gump of point guards? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gorgeous George 424 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Dropcity? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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