Xmantt 215 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, lbjames6 said: I don't know what the f*** is up with the NBA statisticians this year...in the preseason they were giving the wrong stats and they're still doing it now. They eventually correct it but it's frustrating as an avid basketball watcher. yep they are effed up. gianis block still not credited. they also think winslow is richardson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RotoHub 155 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 22 minutes ago, Xmantt said: yep they are effed up. gianis block still not credited. they also think winslow is richardson From what I have heard, it is an issue with the software? I think the NBA went with a new vendor this year for stats and things are not going well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbjames6 2,700 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Should have 4 steals but they only credited him with two...they gave one to Dragic and one to Olynyk instead. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbc88 218 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 BALLIIIIIIIIIN'!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sickrookie 403 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Definitely a breakout season! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ccsae 294 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 beast game Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pdids911 513 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 stat guys missed a couple of josh's steals too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lifschitz 2,246 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Man we need to file a complaint to the NBA this is getting ridiculous.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pdids911 513 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 imagine that sexy line with 2 more steals. im torqued. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brosephd 1,328 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 i'm feeling a lot better of my WW of the year pick over D. Carroll, Danny Green, John Collins, Dejounte Murray, RHJ. The key is who will be the most consistent and sustain it all season long. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaTerp 192 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Lifschitz said: Man we need to file a complaint to the NBA this is getting ridiculous.. During one of the games tonight an announcer said the NBA moved to a new statistician system this year. I don't know enough about it. Is this the reason for some of these errors? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Xmantt 215 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 yeah those 2 steals might be important at the end of the week Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbjames6 2,700 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 13 hours ago, lbjames6 said: Should have 4 steals but they only credited him with two...they gave one to Dragic and one to Olynyk instead. Video for proof: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaTerp 192 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I was wondering this watching games this week. Seems like sometime they correctly give it to the guy that actually causes the steal. And sometimes they give it to whoever picks up the ball. Needs to be cleaned up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cdd10 1,200 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 1 hour ago, VaTerp said: I was wondering this watching games this week. Seems like sometime they correctly give it to the guy that actually causes the steal. And sometimes they give it to whoever picks up the ball. Needs to be cleaned up. it should be whoever gets the ball, technically that is who gets the steal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cdd10 1,200 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 15 hours ago, sickrookie said: Definitely a breakout season! usage will go down with whiteside back, but i still like him. i tried to sell high a guy told me is not trading for a guy thats 10% owned lol. idk why he is only 10% owned in ESPN. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El_Chingon 1,810 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 1 minute ago, cdd10 said: it should be whoever gets the ball, technically that is who gets the steal. No, the steal should be credited to whoever makes the deflection. Not who ends up with the ball. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaTerp 192 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, cdd10 said: it should be whoever gets the ball, technically that is who gets the steal. Not according to wiki nor what I used to do as an asst HS basketball coach charged with keeping stats. (not that either are official) Steals are credited to the defensive player who first causes the turnover, even if he does not end up with possession of the live ball. To earn a steal, the defensive player must be the initiator of the action causing the turnover, not just the benefactor.[1][2] Whenever a steal is recorded by a defensive player, an offensive player must be credited as committing a turnover. Edited October 24, 2017 by VaTerp 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cdd10 1,200 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Just now, El_Chingon said: No, the steal should be credited to whoever makes the deflection. Not who ends up with the ball. you could see it either way. sure guy initiated the steal, but didn't get it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbjames6 2,700 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) 48 minutes ago, cdd10 said: it should be whoever gets the ball, technically that is who gets the steal. Nah. For as long as I've been watching and playing basketball, the defensive player that deflects a pass or pokes the ball loose from the offensive player, and that defensive players team recovers the ball resulting in a turnover, is the one that gets credited with the steal. Edited October 24, 2017 by lbjames6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snroto 66 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 He was fantasy steal who ever got him around 100 easily will have monster year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Minnesota_Jack 704 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 http://videorulebook.nba.com/archive/steal-credited-to-defender-who-gains-possession-as-deflection-by-teammate-was-unintentional/ If a player deflects a pass or dribble and controls his deflection either away from an opponent or towards a teammate resulting in eventual possession for the defense, the player causing the deflection is credited with the steal. It's comes down to interpretation if the deflection was "INTENTIONAL" towards a teammate or under "CONTROL". Or if the teammate ended up with it unintentionally by chance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ccsae 294 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Yea for sure steals goto the person that deflects the ball out in the first place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
apatas 436 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, lbjames6 said: Video for proof: I think this video prove NBA new statistician system which somebody here quoted. It seems that now steal goes to the player, who fix the ball, not who started steal. Edited October 24, 2017 by apatas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Minnesota_Jack 704 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 1 hour ago, ccsae said: Yea for sure steals goto the person that deflects the ball out in the first place. Except not always. Sometimes it goes to the guy who deflects. And sometimes it goes to the guy who recovers it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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