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That depends.. is Matt Ryan going to start targeting Julio more?

 

OK.  Either way, I’d start Ryan over Beathard.

 

Beathard is what he is, a desperation start.  

 

But, he does have unknown potential..people are hoping he’s the next rookie sensation, like Watson... but we’re expecting he’s better than Kizer.

 

250 passing yards (10 points)

40 rushing yards (4 points)

1TD (4 points)

= 18 points

As long as he doesn’t throw a pick we’re golden.  The problem is Dallas has been rushing the QB well lately, that could be ruff on the rookie.  One pick would be OK (16pts) two not so much(14pts).

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4 hours ago, seanismorris said:

That depends.. is Matt Ryan going to start targeting Julio more?

 

OK.  Either way, I’d start Ryan over Beathard.

 

Beathard is what he is, a desperation start.  

 

But, he does have unknown potential..people are hoping he’s the next rookie sensation, like Watson... but we’re expecting he’s better than Kizer.

 

250 passing yards (10 points)

40 rushing yards (4 points)

1TD (4 points)

= 18 points

As long as he doesn’t throw a pick we’re golden.  The problem is Dallas has been rushing the QB well lately, that could be ruff on the rookie.  One pick would be OK (16pts) two not so much(14pts).

 

Fair perspective, for sure.

 

What you'll likely see Sunday is that Beathard has a little Baker Mayfield in him.  He won't get rattled, or back down.  Where that gets him, we'll just have to see.

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the hate level up in here from one particular poster is downright ... ungood

 

i mean, damn - wtf did this kid ever do to elicit such venom, such vitriol ... such utter disdain?

 

Image result for shock gif

 

oh, btw, you can catch me acting similar in the AP thread, but there is a legit reason i despise that numb nutz, ya dig?  see, a person like that, or, say Big Ben or Winston or Tyreek or Zeke or Mixon ... yeah, i could see the personal vendetta towards them, and their past actions (whether proven/convicted, or not) ... but this evisceration of a gutsy lil' farm boy is downright disturbing.

 

hope he drops a 300/3 burger on those Cowboys.  oh, yeah ... he gon' vindicate himself in a yuuuuuge way.

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6 hours ago, pastorofmuppets2 said:

the hate level up in here from one particular poster is downright ... ungood

 

i mean, damn - wtf did this kid ever do to elicit such venom, such vitriol ... such utter disdain?

 

Image result for shock gif

 

oh, btw, you can catch me acting similar in the AP thread, but there is a legit reason i despise that numb nutz, ya dig?  see, a person like that, or, say Big Ben or Winston or Tyreek or Zeke or Mixon ... yeah, i could see the personal vendetta towards them, and their past actions (whether proven/convicted, or not) ... but this evisceration of a gutsy lil' farm boy is downright disturbing.

 

hope he drops a 300/3 burger on those Cowboys.  oh, yeah ... he gon' vindicate himself in a yuuuuuge way.

 

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5 minutes ago, jtbgator said:

Fearless Forecast: 21/36, 210 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT. 6 carries, 47 yards, 1 TD (and maybe a fumble)

I don't think he will get that kind of rushing performance with Lee back.  I would add 1 more passing TD and it looks about right.  

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C.J. Beathard almost led the 49ers to a comeback win last week, and figures to be a streamable fantasy option moving forward

The NFL Draft is one of the most exciting events for fans of football. It breaks the monotony of the offseason by showcasing all of the promising incoming talent and presents a rare, up-close opportunity for fans to gain insight into the minds of front offices the league over.

 

While prospects from every position draw plenty of hype and attention, none draw quite so much as rookie quarterbacks. Why is this?

Rookie quarterbacks embody hope for the fans of their teams. The odds are that if a team selects one of the coveted quarterbacks in the draft their last season (or even several seasons) has not gone well. The new quarterback is, hopefully, the herald of a brighter future for their team.

 

The sad truth is that in most cases that hope doesn’t pan out. Per Evan Silva, the “Hit Rate” for rookie quarterbacks selected in the first round of the draft is only 38.5 percent. That number drops even lower if you include rookies selected in the second round.

This year there are essentially now four starting rookie quarterbacks in the NFL. Considering Evan Silva’s hit rate we can only expect one of those quarterbacks to succeed at the NFL level, and maybe two if we are lucky. Today we’ll be taking a look at how some of those rookie quarterbacks are faring to start their careers and evaluating the directions they are trending towards.

 

We won’t be looking at Deshaun Watson, who is currently the QB1 in fantasy football. It doesn’t take a genius to tell you that his 3.5 passing touchdown per game rate over the last four weeks is absurd, but it is safe to say that he is by far the most successful quarterback of the bunch to date.

Instead, we’ll be taking a look at the other three quarterbacks. Each brings their own unique and promising skills to the table, and each has their flaws. We will never know for sure if any of these quarterbacks are the future of the NFL, but it is exciting to watch fresh faces take the helm.

 

Beast-Hard

C.J. Beathard took the field last Sunday to replace a struggling Brian Hoyer and showed a lot of promise. Taking the field in the middle of a game is nothing Beathard is unfamiliar with; at the University of Iowa, he battled with the then-starter for the starting role before eventually taking over the controls in 2015.

By the time the 49ers benched Hoyer they were down 0-14. It wasn’t looking pretty, but newly installed head coach Kyle Shanahan felt comfortable enough with Beathard to throw him into the flames. And he came out the other side, too.

The Niners still lost the game, but once Beathard took the field, they outscored their opposition 24-12. His 52 percent completion percentage wasn’t perfect, but that rate doesn’t reflect that his receivers dropped a few easy passes throughout the game. If you watched the game, you could see that his throws were accurate and well placed.

 

Take for example his long touchdown throw to Aldrick Robinson. Robinson beat his coverage and got loose with just a safety in the middle of the field between him and the end zone. Beathard identified the lapse in coverage and threw a beautiful pass (on the move, I might add) over Robinson’s outside shoulder so that the safety never had a chance to make a play on the throw. It looked like the throw of an experienced quarterback.

It remains to be seen if Beathard will develop into a fantasy relevant quarterback, but he showed promise in his debut. What is especially important for fantasy football purposes is how he affected those around him.

 

Carlos Hyde was still able to post a great week with 22 fantasy points. He capitalized on a drive where Beathard drove down to the Washington one-yard line and was targeted six times after Beathard took over.

 

Pierre Garcon had a relatively weak game, but not for lack of trying; Beathard targeted Garcon a team-high eight times. Garcon was close to making some of those catches, but what we did see on Sunday was that Beathard was comfortable targeting Garcon in tight windows.

The big winner with the Beathard takeover is George Kittle, the rookie tight end that just so happened to play with Beathard in college. Beathard targeted Kittle seven times in Week 6, including a whopping three red zone targets. Kittle was proving himself to be an up-and-coming tight end before Beathard won the job, and it looks like he’ll be able to keep it up with his former college teammate.

 

Overall, Beathard’s outlook looks to be on the sunny side. He almost managed to bring the team back from a two-score deficit after being thrust into a difficult situation. It was just a one-game sample against a team missing their premier cornerback, but it’s a good start to Beathard’s career.

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5 hours ago, cowboy5xsbs said:

I don't think he will get that kind of rushing performance with Lee back.  I would add 1 more passing TD and it looks about right.  

 

I could see 210-230 yards passing, TD, Int, and then I have him pegged for 20-30 rushing yards. I do believe he gets a second TD, either throwing or running. Not a spectacular game, but a useful game for those of us trying to replace a bye-week QB or Jameis or Rodgers. If nothing else, he looks to have a decent three-week run ahead of him during which he could end up building some confidence for the second half of the season. 

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QBs can't do it alone.  They can hold things back, that's for sure, but to really succeed, they need help.

 

What is Beathard's supporting cast like on both sides of the ball?  We know he has no elite WR, and questions remain about the OGs.  But how bad is it really?

 

Data points are valuable where ever you can get them, and this one is no exception IMO:

 

"The San Francisco 49ers sit at 0-6 right now, but they might be the best 0-6 team in NFL history. They set an NFL record with their fifth straight loss by a field goal or less, and their -33 point differential is significantly better than the next best 0-6 team in history (2000 San Diego Chargers, -84)."

 

Improved QB play can be a tipping point.  There is no guaranty Beathard provides that, but waiting on Hoyer was futile.

 

Hyde, Garcon, Kittle and the rest of the offensive group would get positive bumps immediately if Beathard shows us that he knows what he is doing in this offense.  The rest of the team is good enough, notwithstanding that they are winless.    

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10 minutes ago, Rolling Thunder said:

QBs can't do it alone.  They can hold things back, that's for sure, but to really succeed, they need help.

 

What is Beathard's supporting cast like on both sides of the ball?  We know he has no elite WR, and questions remain about the OGs.  But how bad is it really?

 

Data points are valuable where ever you can get them, and this one is no exception IMO:

 

"The San Francisco 49ers sit at 0-6 right now, but they might be the best 0-6 team in NFL history. They set an NFL record with their fifth straight loss by a field goal or less, and their -33 point differential is significantly better than the next best 0-6 team in history (2000 San Diego Chargers, -84)."

 

Improved QB play can be a tipping point.  There is no guaranty Beathard provides that, but waiting on Hoyer was futile.

 

Hyde, Garcon, Kittle and the rest of the offensive group would get positive bumps immediately if Beathard shows us that he knows what he is doing in this offense.  The rest of the team is good enough, notwithstanding that they are winless.    

 

Good post. Hadn't realized all of their losses have been 3 pts or less, outside of CAR week 1 23-3.

 

at SEA 12-9

vs LAR 41-39

at ARI 18-15

at IND 26-23

at WAS 26-24

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14 minutes ago, jtbgator said:

 

Good post. Hadn't realized all of their losses have been 3 pts or less, outside of CAR week 1 23-3.

 

at SEA 12-9

vs LAR 41-39

at ARI 18-15

at IND 26-23

at WAS 26-24

 

With better QB play, this could be a 4-2, or even 5-1 team.  

 

SF has yet to lay an egg, so maybe we see one of those soon enough.  Just as likely though, they have a game where they don't drop balls, don't suffer a crap load of penalties, and get 60 minutes of good QB play.  You'll want Hyde, Garcon, Kittle and, probably, Beathard in your line up if and when that happens.  What better time for that than a home game against the porous Cowboys, who won't be able to dominate TOP against a good front 7 that welcomes Reuben Foster back.  

 

In PPR, I'm starting Prescott, Zeke, Garcon, Hyde and Kittle with confidence.  This could be a barn burner, with lots of yards and points through the air, and both QBs racking up valuable yards with their feet.

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2 minutes ago, Rolling Thunder said:

 

With better QB play, this could be a 4-2, or even 5-1 team.  

 

SF has yet to lay an egg, so maybe we see one of those soon enough.  Just as likely though, they have a game where they don't drop balls, don't suffer a crap load of penalties, and get 60 minutes of good QB play.  You'll want Hyde, Garcon, Kittle and, probably, Beathard in your line up if and when that happens.  What better time for that than a home game against the porous Cowboys, who won't be able to dominate TOP against a good front 7 that welcomes Reuben Foster back.  

 

In PPR, I'm starting Prescott, Zeke, Garcon, Hyde and Kittle with confidence.  This could be a barn burner, with lots of yards and points through the air, and both QBs racking up valuable yards with their feet.

 

Agree man. I live in Dallas and have been listening to sports radio all day. Lots here feel this is trap game for Dallas and that SF made the right call by benching Hoyer. Getting Lee back definitely helps their defense, but that secondary is burnable.

 

I'm confident in my 1PPR league stacking Beathard with my Garcon. Will be fun to watch.

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2 minutes ago, jtbgator said:

 

Agree man. I live in Dallas and have been listening to sports radio all day. Lots here feel this is trap game for Dallas and that SF made the right call by benching Hoyer. Getting Lee back definitely helps their defense, but that secondary is burnable.

 

I'm confident in my 1PPR league stacking Beathard with my Garcon. Will be fun to watch.

 

The Niners secondary is very burnable too.  Are we seeing a pattern here????

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Not 1 person in this thread mentioned how you stack Beathard against Hundley who is also a pretty significant option to stream at QB? Given the weapons around him I am starting him over Beathard (Watson owner).

 

Am I just missing the boat on Beathard?

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9 hours ago, lolcopter said:

Beathard has looked good in limited action, Hundley hasn't. Saints D is way scarier than Cowboys D

 

He played the colts, Hundley played the vikes.....

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