89Topps 2,599 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Guy had a string a good looking starts early last year, then suffered a hip injury and the wheels completely came off. His final stat line was atrocious. He's an athletic guy, so he's intriguing. Struggles with command and keeping the ball inside the park. There anything to see here in 2018? Or is he just a steam against the Marlins & Pirates? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CurvePirate814 76 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 He had 1 solid month, then the wheels fell off immediately, like you said. He got injured in May. He's definitely worth a 'hold and see' in certain leagues, he was pretty highly touted as a prospect. Fastball last year only averaged 91.7, which I guess could be attributed to the injury. Definitely an intriguing hold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post garlando 1,227 Posted February 25, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2018 Looking at Amir Garrett's stuff and underlying numbers, I think it's clear that he's still very much a work in progress. He does have some intriguing elements but the flaws are big! His fastball was one of the worst in baseball last year, and he throws it almost 62% of the time...it averaged 92mph, opponents batted .339/.431/.690 against it with an absurd ISO of .351. He also struggled to control the pitch as he posted a higher walk rate than K rate with the pitch. It failed to miss bats with just a swinging strike rate of 3.7% and the ground-ball rate was mediocre too (41.2%). All told it was worth -19.2 runs above-average, and among those that pitched at least 110 innings (trying to isolate starting pitchers), which Garrett didn't do because of injury, that would have ranked 9th worst in the majors last year. His Slider is a lot better, and despite a HR problem with the pitch last year that led it to be worth -2.5 runs above average, I think it has good potential! It is a 79 MPH slider which he throws about 22% of the time, and it is Garrett's favorite pitch to put hitters away when ahead of counts last year. 38 of his 62 strikeouts in 2017 came from the Slider - which landed an impressive 20.6% swinging strike rate. The result is that opposing batters really struggled to make contact with it, posting just a .160 average against it. It did, however, get tagged with a HR/FB rate of 37.5% last year which is very likely an outlier despite an overall fly ball rate of 44.4% against the pitch. I think it's reasonable to suggest the HR/FB on the pitch goes down, and if he takes a step forward in terms of control with it, it could be a real weapon. Last up is the changeup which graded out as Garrett's best offering in 2017 being worth 1.6 runs above-average. It averaged 80 MPH and he threw it about 15% of the time. The pitch gets groundballs with a 50% mark, and misses bats reasonable with an 11.5% swinging-strike rate. Opponents hit just .143/.143/.321 against the pitch, that's right he didn't walk a single batter with the pitch. Note that creating more separation in speed between the Slider and the Changeup would probably help both offerings take a step forward. Overall he has a 3 pitch mix that has pretty solid potential highlighted by a potentially plus slider and an above-average changeup, but the fastball is really dragging down the overall mix. He's definitely better than his final line in 2017 imo, but he still has a long ways to go in terms of reaching his ceiling. 9 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UberRebel 560 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Garlando you are my new favorite poster. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
89Topps 2,599 Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 10 hours ago, UberRebel said: Garlando you are my new favorite poster. Here here. Such detailed insight. That's why I keep coming back. @garlando has kind of taken the shelf from @taobball, who I haven't seen as much this year. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jb_power 3,463 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 37 minutes ago, 89Topps said: Here here. Such detailed insight. That's why I keep coming back. @garlando has kind of taken the shelf mantle from @taobball, who I haven't seen as much this year. FTFY 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
89Topps 2,599 Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, jb_power said: FTFY Thank you. Yea, I kind of butchered that saying, didn't I? Not sure what I was thinking there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jfazz23 2,530 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) Garrett retired all six batters he faced in his spring training debut Sunday, striking out four, drawing the attention of manager Bryan Price, the Cincinnati Enquirer's John Fay reports. "Amir was as good as I've ever seen him," Price said. "He had velocity with command and threw the slider and changeup for strikes. He was filthy. That's the type of performance you want to see from a guy that's coming off of a tough season. He came out. He was snorting fire and attacked the zone. It was one of those dare-to-be-noticed moments because he was a standout, an absolute standout." Analysis: The big takeaway from Garrett's performance was how strong his fastball looked, after his fastball was his weakest pitch last season. He still has an uphill battle to win a rotation spot and certainly can't win it on the basis of one spring training outing, but all in all it's better that it was a good outing for him. Edited February 27, 2018 by jfazz23 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cmilne23 10,544 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Overwhelmingly unimpressed last season. A guy in that park must pound the bottom of the zone. This guy elevated his 91-92 mph fastball with regularity. Horrific command, awful park. Hard pass for me. Much more intriguing late round young arms to take. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jfazz23 2,530 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) On 2/25/2018 at 12:47 AM, 89Topps said: Guy had a string a good looking starts early last year, then suffered a hip injury and the wheels completely came off. His final stat line was atrocious. He's an athletic guy, so he's intriguing. Struggles with command and keeping the ball inside the park. There anything to see here in 2018? Or is he just a steam against the Marlins & Pirates? On 2/25/2018 at 7:43 AM, CurvePirate814 said: He had 1 solid month, then the wheels fell off immediately, like you said. He got injured in May. He's definitely worth a 'hold and see' in certain leagues, he was pretty highly touted as a prospect. Fastball last year only averaged 91.7, which I guess could be attributed to the injury. Definitely an intriguing hold. he also had some sort of plasma injection in his hip in the offseason so clearly his hip WAS in fact an issue. not saying hes going to be anything special, but i just took him 30th round in a 16 team dynasty startup Edited February 27, 2018 by jfazz23 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Bat Theory 7,360 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, 89Topps said: Here here. Such detailed insight. That's why I keep coming back. @garlando has kind of taken the shelf from @taobball, who I haven't seen as much this year. And you won't since Taoball is now working here as Cole Freel: https://majorleaguefantasysports.com/ Maybe the way Garlando is going he will be next to end up getting paid to write about baseball. Nice to see Amir had a good outing. If he continues to impress I may have to look into him again. Edited February 27, 2018 by The Big Bat Theory 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kidtwentytwo 5,383 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Not 100% sure of the history of this guy, but I know he played college basketball. Seems like he has late bloomer written all over. May start off in the pen, but he should get another shot if he keeps pitching well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
89Topps 2,599 Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 16 hours ago, The Big Bat Theory said: And you won't since Taoball is now working here as Cole Freel: https://majorleaguefantasysports.com/ Maybe the way Garlando is going he will be next to end up getting paid to write about baseball. Nice to see Amir had a good outing. If he continues to impress I may have to look into him again. You have no idea how disappointed I am to see a picture of him. I always pictured him as looking similar to Kordell Stewart (or whomever that is in his avatar). 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kidtwentytwo 5,383 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, 89Topps said: You have no idea how disappointed I am to see a picture of him. I always pictured him as looking similar to Kordell Stewart (or whomever that is in his avatar). If you ever see me, I look nothing like powdered toast man . Edited February 28, 2018 by kidtwentytwo 2 1 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sharpee 450 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 19 minutes ago, 89Topps said: You have no idea how disappointed I am to see a picture of him. I always pictured him as looking similar to Kordell Stewart (or whomever that is in his avatar). Jimmy Butler??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Members_Only_76 7,250 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 52 minutes ago, 89Topps said: You have no idea how disappointed I am to see a picture of him. I always pictured him as looking similar to Kordell Stewart (or whomever that is in his avatar). 35 minutes ago, kidtwentytwo said: If you ever see me, I look nothing like powdered toast man . I, however, have my doppelgänger as my avatar/profile picture. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
89Topps 2,599 Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 5 hours ago, sharpee said: Jimmy Butler??? Oh crap, that is Jimmy Butler, isn't it? I never really looked at it that closely. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RotoGenius 1,004 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Love taking flyers on NL SPs who are young and have flashed big strikeout potential! ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GrapeJuice 605 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 6 more Ks in 3 hitless innings today. Let the buzz machine begin. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jfazz23 2,530 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 19 minutes ago, GrapeJuice said: 6 more Ks in 3 hitless innings today. Let the buzz machine begin. took him 30th round in my dynasty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jfazz23 2,530 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 On 3/3/2018 at 7:22 PM, GrapeJuice said: 6 more Ks in 3 hitless innings today. Let the buzz machine begin. any more updates on him? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robbybobby005 34 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I read somewhere that he is hitting 96 with his FB, would be almost 5 mph improvement over last year if true Quote Link to post Share on other sites
96mnc 6,747 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 On 3/13/2018 at 7:40 AM, robbybobby005 said: I read somewhere that he is hitting 96 with his FB, would be almost 5 mph improvement over last year if true Yes, velocity is up this spring. Starting Sunday. Hoping the game is on MLB network. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mowntineer 25 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 ESPN has him listed as an RP only. Is he no longer a starter? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rdf8585 237 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Garrett today vs AZ: 4.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 4 K, 1 HBP ST: 13 IP, 2 ER, 6 H, 3 BB, 15 K Anyone think there's anything here? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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