Slatykamora 2,790 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, SpecialFNK said: who would be next in Detroit? Alex Wilson was terrible in the spring. Well Drew VerHagen was given a 2 year run lead in the 8th and couldn't get an out that. Stumpf is a lefty...and Joe Jimenez isn't helping his case here right now either. Basically Greene still has a longish leash right now by virtue of nothing else rising up. So not really worth speculating too deep in the short term, but Wilson/VerHagen are probably the next 2 if things keep getting dire for Greene. So nothing pretty. I see some sleeper potential for Buck Farmer for the tigers BP this year, but that is more the Mutli-IP high leverage potential then dedicated 9th inning closer. Edited March 30, 2018 by Slatykamora Link to post Share on other sites
89Topps 2,593 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, WaKe21334 said: Cannot throw strikes Missing everything away to his arm side. Wonder if he's just too amped up and overthrowing. He threw one that was about 3 feet outside. Edited March 30, 2018 by 89Topps Link to post Share on other sites
verycoolnin 330 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Rivero done. Couldn't throw a strike. Link to post Share on other sites
BMcP 8,278 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Looks more like Rivero either isn’t fully stretched out yet or is nursing some minor arm soreness. He didn’t finish on any of his FBs. Link to post Share on other sites
89Topps 2,593 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Can't even finish the inning. Threw so many pitches, he won't be available tomorrow either. Nearly every fastball looked exactly the same. High and outside to right handed batters. Frustrating to watch. Link to post Share on other sites
89Topps 2,593 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Just now, BMcP said: Looks more like Rivero either isn’t fully stretched out yet or is nursing some minor arm soreness. He didn’t finish on any of his FBs. Velo was fine though. Hit 97/98 a few times. Looked more like he was just overthrowing. Link to post Share on other sites
verycoolnin 330 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Hah! Tie game! Link to post Share on other sites
89Topps 2,593 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Perfect. May as well bring those extra runs home. ? Link to post Share on other sites
WaKe21334 496 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Really? The gun on the pirates feed was showing 96. Link to post Share on other sites
BMcP 8,278 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 minute ago, 89Topps said: Velo was fine though. Hit 97/98 a few times. Looked more like he was just overthrowing. More like “under”-throwing - he wasn’t following through and finishing his delivery. It could also be, like many accustomed to warmer climates, he’s not able to perform optimally in what must seem like frigid temperatures. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
89Topps 2,593 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, BMcP said: More like “under”-throwing - he wasn’t following through and finishing his delivery. It could also be, like many accustomed to warmer climates, he’s not able to perform optimally in what must seem like frigid temperatures. Either way, he was a complete mess. Hoping it was just opening day jitters/rust. Link to post Share on other sites
Sidearmer 2,103 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Unbelievable the carnage that has happened to closers already. Its not even April. Link to post Share on other sites
TribeFoo 1,363 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Rivero’s next outing should be telling. Getting the jitters with a lousy second half last year and an objectively horrendous spring. Link to post Share on other sites
hangin n wangin 1,703 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Thanks for the strikeout Rivero. Link to post Share on other sites
FUM 796 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 He was off in spring and he looked awful today. Something’s up. Link to post Share on other sites
chrisrfu 45 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Kontos looked pretty good. 1K/0BB. He has a pretty respectable spring. 6.2IP, 5H, 2R, 1.35ERA. 9K/2BB. He'd be next in line as CloserMonkey has him at. Link to post Share on other sites
Lebanasty 183 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sidearmer said: Unbelievable the carnage that has happened to closers already. Its not even April. I'm with you. Diaz got the save which is more than you can say for most that pitched yesterday, however he had 2 HBP and a balk in a 1-run game to make it more interesting. He was better on the road last year though, hoping to see some improvement in that respect this year. Link to post Share on other sites
Ryno23 146 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, chrisrfu said: Kontos looked pretty good. 1K/0BB. He has a pretty respectable spring. 6.2IP, 5H, 2R, 1.35ERA. 9K/2BB. He'd be next in line as CloserMonkey has him at. He settled in after throwing the first pitch to the backstop and the second pitch off the umpire's face. Link to post Share on other sites
Fister?Ihardlyknowher 45 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 As of this message Hunter Strickland is currently 35% owned in Yahoo. Melancon’s arm issues do not seem like a week to week thing, I’d guess month to month considering how last year and ST went. Read the interview quotes that were posted a page or two back; he sounds deflated like his season is over. Go get Strickland before someone else does Link to post Share on other sites
89Topps 2,593 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, Lebanasty said: I'm with you. Diaz got the save which is more than you can say for most that pitched yesterday, however he had 2 HBP and a balk in a 1-run game to make it more interesting. He was better on the road last year though, hoping to see some improvement in that respect this year. Diaz' HBPs were not real egregious. IIRC, one was just a little up and in where the batter didn't exactly make much effort to get out of the way. The second, they actually had to review. Think it just grazed the jersey. All that to say, it's not like he was just all over the place with his control. At least not more so than normal. Link to post Share on other sites
SpecialFNK 1,477 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 has there ever been something done to show closers numbers in April? it feels like there are always closers in April that suck over and over and over and over. might as well just sit most closers in April until the dust settles and things are better in May. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TedStriker 274 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Especially when managers use them in non-save situations (Rivero). 1 Link to post Share on other sites
89Topps 2,593 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 minute ago, TedStriker said: Especially when managers use them in non-save situations (Rivero). I know there's been studies on that. I think it found closers perform very slightly worse in non save situations. It was a pretty insignificant difference. Link to post Share on other sites
shakestreet 4,096 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TedStriker said: Especially when managers use them in non-save situations (Rivero). Oh goody like I never read this before over/under 200 somebody writes this Edited March 30, 2018 by shakestreet 1 Link to post Share on other sites
JFS179 3,771 Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 Michael Feliz is a stud closer in waiting if the Pirates give him a chance (and Rivero can’t figure things out). 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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