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12 minutes ago, Fuzzy_Slippers said:

It wasn't pretty, but Treinen notched his 8th save. 

First batter was a strikeout but Lucroy lost the ball. He's the one who ended up scoring. Wasn't pretty outing but was a lot better than the box score shows.

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Bring back Rivero. Vazquez sucks. 

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13 minutes ago, Fuzzy_Slippers said:

It wasn't pretty, but Treinen notched his 8th save. 

It was fine, k and WP so runner goes to first .  One hit and a grounder to score the lead off k.   Got Betts, Hanley to end the game.  Freak inning with WP k lead off batter 

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27 minutes ago, HaloFanatic17 said:

On Winkler’s yahoo updates, it was stated he could see save opportunities.  Can someone post the link?

 

It's right here on Rotoworld's sports/mlb page since they are the ones that do the Yahoo blurbs:

 

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Braves manager Brian Snitker said he might use Dan Winkler to close some games going forward.

 

Snitker also mentioned A.J. Minter as a possible candidate for save opportunities while indicating that Arodys Vizcaino is still the primary guy. Vizcaino blew his second save of the season on Tuesday night against the Cubs, but he still has a strong 2.75 ERA with 20 strikeouts in 19 2/3 innings. Winkler has worked to a dominant 0.98 ERA, 0.65 WHIP, and 27/5 K/BB ratio in 18 1/3 frames.

 

Source: David O'Brien on Twitter            May 15 - 11:26 PM

 

Sounds like a committee to me.

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3 minutes ago, The Big Bat Theory said:

 

It's right here on Rotoworld's sports/mlb page since they are the ones that do the Yahoo blurbs:

 

 

Sounds like a committee to me.

Thank you. I didn’t know how to do that from my mobile.   I’m sure it will start as a committee but someone will pull away. 

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11 hours ago, shakestreet said:

Am I serious about Fantasy baseball? 

.Fantasy baseball is about numbers ... not metrics. 

 

All i I know yea he is walking a few players. 12 in 17 IP ... but you must remember AJ is second in line to get the saves behind Aroldys. 

AJ is owned in all deep leagues especially hold leagues.  He is owned in a regular 5x5 rotisserie 12 team...Just look at the hold leaders there is some guys on the top of the list that have inflated numbers. 

 

 

I don’t think he is lousy, you do. Let’s drop it. 

As a Braves fan I would rather see Winkler in the 9th. AJ is way too wild. lol 

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man, if any contending team needs to upgrade their bullpen (like Washington last year) it's got to be the Angels.   If Britton come's back  healthy I would be targeting him...

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12 minutes ago, knuckleheads said:

man, if any contending team needs to upgrade their bullpen (like Washington last year) it's got to be the Angels.   If Britton come's back  healthy I would be targeting him...

 

Pretty sure the Astros will go hard after Britton as well. Both these teams could use serious bullpen help. 

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6 minutes ago, absknicks said:

 

Pretty sure the Astros will go hard after Britton as well. Both these teams could use serious bullpen help. 

 

I don't think the Astros really need that much help with peacock, devenski, mchugh, rondon, giles

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Just now, street sharks said:

 

I don't think the Astros really need that much help with peacock, devenski, mchugh, rondon, giles

 

Well last October Hinch had to use McCullers and Morton to close out games because he didn't trust any of those guys to do it... I'd be stunned if they don't target a big arm for that pen

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11 minutes ago, absknicks said:

 

Pretty sure the Astros will go hard after Britton as well. Both these teams could use serious bullpen help. 

 

The Astros need bullpen help?   In no specific order:

 

Giles

McHugh

Devenski

Harris 

Peacock

 

Are all quality.

 

When Rondon is your 6th guy you're fine.   They could use another loogy Sipp but that's it. 

 

Hinch needs to deploy his assets better. 

 

Colin McHugh has been outstanding.  If they wanted to go old school and commit to one guy he should be it. 

 

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7 minutes ago, absknicks said:

 

Well last October Hinch had to use McCullers and Morton to close out games because he didn't trust any of those guys to do it... I'd be stunned if they don't target a big arm for that pen


Come playoff time you use whoever you think helps at the time - starter or reliever.  But you are probably correct that the Astros may be in on him as well since you can never have enough pitching (as they say).   However, their bullpen is significantly better than what the Angels have.  If the Angels want to go deep into the playoffs they need to bulk that up... 

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7 minutes ago, 96mnc said:

 

The Astros need bullpen help?   In no specific order:

 

Giles

McHugh

Devenski

Harris 

Peacock

 

Are all quality.

 

When Rondon is your 6th guy you're fine.   They could use another loogy Sipp but that's it. 

 

Hinch needs to deploy his assets better. 

 

Colin McHugh has been outstanding.

 

 

Giles is so shaky at times though.  He is definitely a question mark going forward, especially after last year.  Luckily Houston has great options but I could see them wanting to keep them all in their current roles and go after a solid closer like Britton (should he be healthy which is a big question mark as well)...

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Just now, knuckleheads said:

 

Giles is so shaky at times though.  He is definitely a question mark going forward, especially after last year.  Luckily Houston has great options but I could see them wanting to keep them all in their current roles and go after a solid closer like Britton (should he be healthy which is a big question mark as well)...

 

I personally trust Giles the LEAST out of the names I mentioned, ha.

 

If they decide to bring in a stud reliever I wouldn't blame them.   you're trying to go back to back,  leave as little to chance as possible.   But Britton specifically needs to prove a lot health wise before I'd pony up for him. 

 

I do think they have good in house options though.   I just do not always love how they are deployed.

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9 hours ago, 9703 said:

I guess it’s irrelevant now with Colome pitching better, but just wanted to say that Sergio Romo’s purpose in life is to destroy Alvarado’s ERA. And Kevin Cash keeps falling for the trick.

 

You mean how Alvarado left runners on 2nd and 3rd, and Romo came into the mess and gave up a single?  Not sure this one really qualifies as 'Romo's fault'.  I get it, Alvarado is good, Romo is bad, and maybe Cash shouldn't have tried to make Alvarado go 2 IP, but at the end of the day the best way to stop inherited runners from scoring is to stop leaving messes for other pitchers to clean up for you!

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18 minutes ago, handyandy86 said:

 

You mean how Alvarado left runners on 2nd and 3rd, and Romo came into the mess and gave up a single?  Not sure this one really qualifies as 'Romo's fault'.  I get it, Alvarado is good, Romo is bad, and maybe Cash shouldn't have tried to make Alvarado go 2 IP, but at the end of the day the best way to stop inherited runners from scoring is to stop leaving messes for other pitchers to clean up for you!

 

Maybe the manager should trust the better reliever to get out of it every now and then.

 

It was actually runners at 2nd & 3rd nobody out and Alvarado had already gotten 2 outs before the “righty specialist,” Romo, came in again and screwed it up.

 

Not that I care since I don’t own Alvarado, but I watch a lot of games here in So. Fla...Alvarado is easily the Rays best reliever.

 

Edit: Also, Alvarado should be allowed to be human as well. You’re saying he left runners on base again as if he does it a lot. Alvarado’s WHIP is at a nice 0.98. His ERA should be way lower than high 2s, but Romo has basically let in all of his inherited runners score.

 

For no reason too because Alvarado has the stuff to get righties out.

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Vizcaino is one bad outing from taking a trip to the DL.  Winkler is a strong candidate to close as is Minter and Carle.  Touki Toussaint is another baby Brave who could come up and get late innings this summer.  

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Closer Monkey reported Jim Johnson would've got the save last night had Alvarez not crapped the bed, that true?

 

Who we think has more value at this point, him or Rondon. Still not sure they keep going to Rondon but he did get the last.

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4 minutes ago, jagtrader said:

Giles hasn't been shaky. He had one blowup facing the Yankees back-to-back. His usage implies there's something wrong with him, though.

 

Hes the only RP in their bullpen with a save over the last like month, im loving his usage haha

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12 hours ago, AnonymousRob said:

Greene tried his best to blow it but ultimately he couldn't quite get it done, and instead scraped together another nerve wracking save. 

 

Got is he awful.  I don't have him but I really don't see a lot of other viable options in that bullpen so I agree with the person that said at least his job is safe in a division where every team is under .500, you heard me, that is a sad fact

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1 hour ago, swfcdan said:

Closer Monkey reported Jim Johnson would've got the save last night had Alvarez not crapped the bed, that true?

 

Who we think has more value at this point, him or Rondon. Still not sure they keep going to Rondon but he did get the last.

I don't fully believe it, but my Angels fan friend was telling me a couple days ago he still thinks JJ is next man up even after the recent awful outing. No guarantee he's right but he usually has a waaay better handle on that situation than I do. 

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23 minutes ago, jagtrader said:

Giles hasn't been shaky. He had one blowup facing the Yankees back-to-back. His usage implies there's something wrong with him, though.

 

When I say shaky I go back to the last few years in which he has had major issues every year, highlighted by the playoff disaster last year.  Overall he's been alright this year but not sure the Astros has a lot of confidence in him any longer.

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3 hours ago, kidtwentytwo said:

Vizcaino is one bad outing from taking a trip to the DL.  Winkler is a strong candidate to close as is Minter and Carle.  Touki Toussaint is another baby Brave who could come up and get late innings this summer.  

I’m all in on Winkler after last night though admittedly don’t know much about him aside from his impressive numbers. Does he have the stuff to run away with the job if he gets the opportunity?

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