smeeze 6,161 Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 37 minutes ago, motown magic said: I pointed it out because it actually happened. Fact .You don't know that what you are suggesting WILL happen. You are guessing. I'm saying there could be 20 save chances for KC the rest of the way. I don't see what is so hard to believe . They had two in two days. Will I bet on it ? Of course not. That is dumb. Well forgive me for making predictions on a fantasy sports message board 2 Link to post Share on other sites
My Dinner With Andre 5,803 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 hours ago, smeeze said: 20 more saves for the Royals? I wasn't referring to the Royals specifically. Just speaking in generalities. Link to post Share on other sites
89Topps 2,703 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 4 hours ago, smeeze said: You've pointed to 1 example in 100+ years of MLB history... Closers on bad teams have value, too. I'm not arguing that. However, there is still correlation between team wins and save opps. Bad closer (Peralta) on a bad team (Royals) does not inspire confidence. I would bet a significant amount of money that he does not record 20 saves over the course of the rest of the 2018 MLB season. I'll do you one further, I might not bet the over on ANYONE getting more than 20 saves ROS. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Max Rockatansky 1,179 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 LOL Romo, what a d-bag. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Magoo 1,588 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Max Rockatansky said: LOL Romo, what a d-bag. Apparently Taylor stole a base a while back while they were up 11-2. I think that's why he was pissed. Weak though. Link to post Share on other sites
hangin n wangin 1,703 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Max Rockatansky said: LOL Romo, what a d-bag. What did Romo do? Edited June 26, 2018 by hangin n wangin Link to post Share on other sites
89Topps 2,703 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Max Rockatansky said: LOL Romo, what a d-bag. On the closer side of things, he certainly looked better than Alvarado. Alvarado couldn't get a single lefty out. Roe and Romo bailed him out, and Romo looked pretty good locking down the save. Now, after, that's a different story. Yea, the guy is kind of a bag, but at least it was entertaining. Link to post Share on other sites
89Topps 2,703 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Just now, hangin n wangin said: What did Romo do? Alvarez was the D-Bag in that joke of an inning. He struck out Taylor to end the game. Talked mess after each pitch, then jawed at him so much after K'ing him, it caused the benches to clear. No punches thrown, unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites
hangin n wangin 1,703 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Just now, 89Topps said: He struck out Taylor to end the game. Talked mess after each pitch, then jawed at him so much after K'ing him, it caused the benches to clear. No punches thrown, unfortunately. Nice. That's fun. Link to post Share on other sites
ST. STEVEN 4,337 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 20 hours ago, bgbg22 said: Check out the kid Castillo on TB, could be their closer of the future. I’m praying DET trades Greene so that Jimenez can take his rightful throne as DET closer! He's really good, if they ever stop messing around, he's the best guy to lock down the 9th imo. Link to post Share on other sites
tuesdays 355 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Anyone see the funky pitching shenanigans Cash pulled? Looks like he moved Alvarado to the outfield so that Roe could pitch to Rendon, then brought Alvarado back in Link to post Share on other sites
kmoore1521 1,461 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, ST. STEVEN said: He's really good, if they ever stop messing around, he's the best guy to lock down the 9th imo. Post romo trade for sure a sleeper stash Link to post Share on other sites
dicka24 436 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I can't imagine Peralta would last long as a closer with a WHIP over 1.50, and his inability to throw strikes throughout his career. Plus the Royals are going nowhere and as such I'd imagine they'd like to develop a younger, more controllable player for that role moving forward. Than again, this is the Royals. Link to post Share on other sites
BMcP 8,597 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 6 hours ago, smeeze said: You've pointed to 1 example in 100+ years of MLB history... Closers on bad teams have value, too. I'm not arguing that. However, there is still correlation between team wins and save opps. Bad closer (Peralta) on a bad team (Royals) does not inspire confidence. I would bet a significant amount of money that he does not record 20 saves over the course of the rest of the 2018 MLB season. Why is it important to prove this point? How does this advance the conversation? Clearly, the point here is that Peralta could offer considerable value for anyone chasing saves. Who cares exactly how many he notches? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
BMcP 8,597 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, dicka24 said: I can't imagine Peralta would last long as a closer with a WHIP over 1.50, and his inability to throw strikes throughout his career. Plus the Royals are going nowhere and as such I'd imagine they'd like to develop a younger, more controllable player for that role moving forward. Than again, this is the Royals. That’s not a reason for believing they wouldn’t use him as a closer - it’s a reason for believing they would. Link to post Share on other sites
Magoo 1,588 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, dicka24 said: I can't imagine Peralta would last long as a closer with a WHIP over 1.50, and his inability to throw strikes throughout his career. Plus the Royals are going nowhere and as such I'd imagine they'd like to develop a younger, more controllable player for that role moving forward. Than again, this is the Royals. You know who else had a crappy 1.5ish whip before he was made a closer? Gagne, Hand, and Wade Davis. We've seen this movie before. By no means am I saying he is safe. It's just silly to look at past numbers with his stuff though. Link to post Share on other sites
dicka24 436 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Just now, Magoo said: You know who else had a crappy 1.5ish whip before he was made a closer? Gagne, Hand, and Wade Davis. We've seen this movie before. By no means am I saying he is safe. It's just silly to look at past numbers with his stuff though. Wade Davis became an elite reliever before becoming a closer. Same for the others. They developed, or honed in their abilities in the pen, and then got shots as a closer. It's not impossible that Peralta succeeds as the Royals closer, but he hasn't had that same progression from failed starter, to successful reliever, to then closer as the others have. The league is loaded with former starters turned relievers who ended up as failed relievers too. Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Bat Theory 7,523 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, motown magic said: The same thing was said about the Rays and Tigers. Who knows. Maybe when they trade off some players they will bring up young guys that give a sh!t and play some baseball. But KC, unlike these teams you cited, doesn't have a farm system worth mentioning. They have no real prospects except a 1B a few years away as I recall. Any KC closer will need the team to score at least one run per game and that is doubtful if Moose and Merrifield go. Sal Perez can't do it all. Edited June 26, 2018 by The Big Bat Theory Link to post Share on other sites
89Topps 2,703 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Just realized Romo was pissed that Michael Taylor stole 3rd base in the SIXTH INNING! What a jergoff. Link to post Share on other sites
89Topps 2,703 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 58 minutes ago, tuesdays said: Anyone see the funky pitching shenanigans Cash pulled? Looks like he moved Alvarado to the outfield so that Roe could pitch to Rendon, then brought Alvarado back in First base actually. I'm not a big "bunt" guy, but how do you not lay a bunt down in that situation? Force Alvarado to actually field the position. Link to post Share on other sites
TrueToTheBlue 353 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Who would you anticipate gets the next save opp for the Giants? Link to post Share on other sites
Magoo 1,588 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, TrueToTheBlue said: Who would you anticipate gets the next save opp for the Giants? Tony Melyson Link to post Share on other sites
ktierne3 203 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, tuesdays said: Anyone see the funky pitching shenanigans Cash pulled? Looks like he moved Alvarado to the outfield so that Roe could pitch to Rendon, then brought Alvarado back in How many more appearances for first base eligibility??? 3 Link to post Share on other sites
juice219 33 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I'm still confused why Romo didn't start the 9th to begin with. He wasn't even the first the right hander in the games the manager was playing with alternating pitchers. Dude has got the team's last 5 saves. Is he the closer or not? Link to post Share on other sites
CAT 921 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, BMcP said: That’s not a reason for believing they wouldn’t use him as a closer - it’s a reason for believing they would. EXACTLY. There are many fairly mediocre starters who ended up being pretty good closers. One pretty good one I can think of is.....Mariano Rivera. Anyone ever heard of him? Edited June 26, 2018 by CAT 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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