Fantasyscrub 365 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 (edited) Walton is the problem here, the guy is a complete idiot and can't win a game unless Lebron goes for a triple double or he is coaching the warriors His rotations are a**. Josh Hart should be starting, no questions asked Can you say silver spoon? How does a guy go from being a no talent player with a 10 year career with the lakers to assistant coach on the warriors to the lakers head coach, all by 37 years old....oh yeah, nepotism. Edited November 1, 2018 by Fantasyscrub 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thezing1 1,813 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Hart is polarizing right now. Please share your opinion and insight. Convincing the other side of your thought process isn't that important. Time will tell how it plays out with Hart. Please chill a little. A lot of analysis is being critical of real life and rotations and the Lakers in general. Some are focused on fantasy only. Some love to post drop city. Everyone is bringing their own thing to this thread. I think the conversation has covered a lot, but there is one thing that is being overlooked....they beat the Mavs by 1 point. 1 point on a last second FT. A one possession game versus a team that was on the 3rd in 4 nights and is bottom tier in the West. This Lakers team is searching for it. You don't stick with a rotation that is less than optimal. I think this game result showed that the rotations were less than optimal. I don't think anyone from the Lakers, especially Lebron, is content or complacent after this game versus the Mavs. So chill a little bit and see how it plays out. These Lakers are a bunch of young guys learning to play next to Lebron, a player that veterans and stars have struggled to adapt to. Just give everyone a minute to figure it out before making bold statements. Obviously, you need to apply your league settings to your situation and play it out how you need to play it out. No one is making blanket statements here. 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fantasyscrub 365 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Can we just fire Walton and make Lebron a player/coach already. I don't understand why any team with Lebron on it even needs a coach. The king understands the game far better than Luke Silver Spoon Walton ever could Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bdy1 644 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Walton should just call his Lute-buddy in Oakland; let that guy set his rotations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StifleTower2 2,525 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, Fantasyscrub said: Can we just fire Walton and make Lebron a player/coach already. I don't understand why any team with Lebron on it even needs a coach. The king understands the game far better than Luke Silver Spoon Walton ever could That’s a little akin to saying why do we need attorneys when we have judges?! After all, the average judge knows more about the legal system than the average attorney. The reason is that human beings are biased and having LeBron as a player coach is more likely to end in him making decisions for his own personal benefit. Even if he’s well intentioned it would mean playing his “guys” over what’s best for the team. LeBron was an absolutely ****ful defacto gm in Cleveland. On top of that, just because he’s a great player doesn’t mean he will be a good coach or gm. Some of the best coaches: Stevens, Snyder, etc. were players but had less than an illustrious career. There are players who completely understand the game intellectually but have bodies with limitations that cap their upside eg. Kerr. The concept of a player/coach is inherently a bad idea imo and even if it would be ok in the abstract LeBron wouldn’t be my first guess for active players who would make a good coach. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CORTEz 1,119 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 20 hours ago, dorwell said: Already got a roster alert from yahoo. That's not an evidence but an indicator. Another stinker and he will hit the waiver pretty hard. So if I want to get him atm, I would wait and not offering anything. This outcome will likely be true if you're talking 10-12 teamers. But in deep leagues (even starting with 14-teamers), he likely won't be dropped unless that prolonged slump comes. I usually do 16-teamers, and i can guarantee he won't be dropped in those. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MynameisMudd 319 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Luke on the hot seat = More Hart? maybe? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
triple_threat 63 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1058394511645253637 wish i knew how to post twitter posts on here. He's on the hot seat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LosingEffort 149 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 The problem is not the coach The problem is Ingram and the wings crowded in the Lakers When I told I didn't trust this situation... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MynameisMudd 319 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, LosingEffort said: The problem is not the coach The problem is Ingram and the wings crowded in the Lakers When I told I didn't trust this situation... When the coach is playing Ball and Rondo in the same lineup , there's very much a coach factor. Hart is better than the depth and even if Hart isn't starting (which I almost prefer he doesn't) , he should be 6th man given starter type minutes. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csklmf 391 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 On 2018/10/31 at 9:43 PM, miasma16 said: Ingram isn't a shooting guard, Luke. The sooner you realize that the better your team will be. Firing Luke does not help the situation whatsoever. Every time Lebron joins a new team, Miami Heat, Cavs, it's all rough and everybody needs to get used to the King's way of playing the game. Overcrowded backcourt creates serious rotation issues. And if you fire Luke, can you even find a better substitution? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorLove 312 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, csklmf said: Firing Luke does not help the situation whatsoever. Every time Lebron joins a new team, Miami Heat, Cavs, it's all rough and everybody needs to get used to the King's way of playing the game. Overcrowded backcourt creates serious rotation issues. And if you fire Luke, can you even find a better substitution? Certainly.... Ty Lue... JK of course 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fantasyscrub 365 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 The problem is definitely the coach. If the coaching roles between the lakers and dallas were reversed, do you really think rick Carlisle would have had as much trouble beating the mavs at home? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyjogger13 115 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 had to drop the stud for Pascal.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fantasyscrub 365 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I mean, think about it. Javale McGee was punishing DeAndre Jordan all night, Dennis Smith Jr finished with 5 points, Lebron went off for 30, Doncic didn't score until late in the 3rd Quarter, and somehow you still only hang on to win by 1? A 35 year old JJ Barea punished the lakers with 15-10 in 25 minutes for a plus/minus of +28. Something is wrong with the coaching. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StifleTower2 2,525 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 35 minutes ago, Fantasyscrub said: I mean, think about it. Javale McGee was punishing DeAndre Jordan all night, Dennis Smith Jr finished with 5 points, Lebron went off for 30, Doncic didn't score until late in the 3rd Quarter, and somehow you still only hang on to win by 1? A 35 year old JJ Barea punished the lakers with 15-10 in 25 minutes for a plus/minus of +28. Something is wrong with the coaching. JJ Barea is actually pretty good. He carved up the Heat during the 2011 finals too. Coaching can’t stop him when he’s going off, that’s up to the players. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lpycharles 64 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Back to Hart. He did really well versus the Blazers tonight. I think whether or not he starts, he should be able to get minutes and contributes to the team. He is a great 3 and d player to complement the playmakers in a fast paced offense. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DezedandConfused 2,974 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, lpycharles said: Back to Hart. He did really well versus the Blazers tonight. I think whether or not he starts, he should be able to get minutes and contributes to the team. He is a great 3 and d player to complement the playmakers in a fast paced offense. Hart= lakers' Danny Green Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chud12 4,076 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, lpycharles said: Back to Hart. He did really well versus the Blazers tonight. I think whether or not he starts, he should be able to get minutes and contributes to the team. He is a great 3 and d player to complement the playmakers in a fast paced offense. His usage has evaporated since Kuzma came back and that’s a concern. Hart was 3-3 from the field tonight for 11 points, he could havd just as easily been 1-3 for 5 points. Getting 3 shots in a game is a damn joke. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kamura 395 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 His usage is too low for standard leagues right now, if there's a hot free agent...you know what you should do.... Maybe later on Luke will figure out his rotations a little better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cozie 363 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Just finished scimming through the remarks. So is Hart a hold in standard leagues? Trying to decide should I trade for him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
littlesamtung 151 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Stay put. I don't own him but I think Hart is their best defender and should be started. Kuzma can score but he is a liability on defense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RipCity0 742 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 +11 in 29 mins, obviously Walton can see that, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csklmf 391 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Ima holding on him. With this blowout and if Luke Walton's still doing what he's doing, his days are ticking Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CORTEz 1,119 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I'm telling you right now...If you want Josh Hart, now is the time to strike.. All it would take would probably be a Top-100 player (maybe someone ranked in the 80's or 90's) that's not really playing up to par... I think by mid-season, Hart will be Top-75...Everyone saw the first 5 or so games.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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