My Dinner With Andre 5,805 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, FantasyBallFan said: Depends... Is AD a 1 year rental? He's a rental no matter how you cut it, no? The contract ends after the 2020 season. Period. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HotSauce24 320 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, My Dinner With Andre said: Wouldn't AD be better off waiting until free agency? He'said going to gut the roster of the team that trades for him The more I think about it the more his play makes no sense He said he wants to win asap. Doesn't want to wait it out like KG did because he prioritizes legacy over money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nospmoht04 293 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, My Dinner With Andre said: Wouldn't AD be better off waiting until free agency? He'said going to gut the roster of the team that trades for him The more I think about it the more his play makes no sense Rich Paul, and Lebron have something to say about that. Lebron will be getting too old then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
My Dinner With Andre 5,805 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, HotSauce24 said: He said he wants to win asap. Doesn't want to wait it out like KG did because he prioritizes legacy over money. And yet he's good with a trade to the Knicks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rainsford 115 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 minute ago, nospmoht04 said: Rich Paul, and Lebron have something to say about that. Lebron will be getting too old then. Hahaha I agree. LeBron is running the show(league). AD is going to do whatever Lebron and Paul tell him to do. Period. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
montanski 615 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, babyfaceassasin said: No one, and I believe not even Kyrie himself knows where he is going next season. The guy changes his mind like a girl. The only sure thing is that he will stay away from the world's edge, because he can fall outside the Earth... 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HotSauce24 320 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, My Dinner With Andre said: And yet he's good with a trade to the Knicks. Likely if they sign a combination of Kyrie, KD, etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kaboom 3,244 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, My Dinner With Andre said: Wouldn't AD be better off waiting until free agency? He'said going to gut the roster of the team that trades for him The more I think about it the more his play makes no sense This summer there will be more FA's available than at any point in NBA history (40% of the league will be FA's). Because of all the one-year expiring contracts, at that point the Lakers would be LeBron James, Anthony Davis, and a blank slate to build the team however they want. Magic has always maintained that he had a "2 summer" plan. This is what he meant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FantasyBallFan 473 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, My Dinner With Andre said: Wouldn't AD be better off waiting until free agency? He'said going to gut the roster of the team that trades for him The more I think about it the more his play makes no sense The difference between him resigning with the team that trades for him vs signing on the open market in free agency is about 40 million. Obviously he already forfeited about 50mil by forcing his way out of NOLA but if he were to wait until free agency we're talking almost 100m lost. That in addition to the fact that he wants to win as soon as possible is why the last thing he'd want to do is wait. Money is the biggest factor here Edited February 4, 2019 by FantasyBallFan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bballshinobi 1,459 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, nospmoht04 said: Tatum was 19 at the start of last season and almost brought a team to the finals. I wouldn't say he almost "brought" the team to the Finals. I also wouldn't say he was the engine that drove the Celtics. Horford, Rozier, and Stevens were more responsible for the success of the offense. Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart, and Marcus Morris defended the other team's best players. Tatum didn't have to worry about anything else other than shooting the ball when the ball comes his way. The team didn't revolve around him.Donovan Mitchell actually had more responsibility for a playoff team, but you won't think as highly of him because the Jazz lost 1 round earlier? Just because Celtics has the better team doesn't make Tatum a better player. In fact, I don't think he would've had as much personal success if he didn't play with veterans and for such a good coach. You could, however, say that he was mature enough to handle the playoff pressure. I think he'll be a really good player, 5-10 time allstar good, but definitely not the type Celtics are talking themselves into. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mcflywalker 1,119 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Why does NOLA need Tatum when they have the actual GOAT Kenrich Williams already starting? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nospmoht04 293 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, bballshinobi said: I wouldn't say he almost "brought" the team to the Finals. I also wouldn't say he was the engine that drove the Celtics. Horford, Rozier, and Stevens were more responsible for the success of the offense. Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart, and Marcus Morris defended the other team's best players. Tatum didn't have to worry about anything else other than shooting the ball when the ball comes his way. The team didn't revolve around him.Donovan Mitchell actually had more responsibility for a playoff team, but you won't think as highly of him because the Jazz lost 1 round earlier? Just because Celtics has the better team doesn't make Tatum a better player. In fact, I don't think he would've had as much personal success if he didn't play with veterans and for such a good coach. You could, however, say that he was mature enough to handle the playoff pressure. I think he'll be a really good player, 5-10 time allstar good, but definitely not the type Celtics are talking themselves into. Tatum was 19 at the start of last season and almost brought a team was a large part of a team that almost made it to the finals, as he led the team in scoring. There you go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bballshinobi 1,459 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 33 minutes ago, FantasyBallFan said: The difference between him resigning with the team that trades for him vs signing on the open market in free agency is about 40 million. Obviously he already forfeited about 50mil by forcing his way out of NOLA but if he were to wait until free agency we're talking almost 100m lost. That in addition to the fact that he wants to win as soon as possible is why the last thing he'd want to do is wait. Money is the biggest factor here Leaving NOLA is already costing him about $33M. I think he's the first player who qualified for DPOE who still chooses to leave his original team. If he leaves the team that trades for him and signs a deal in free agency, he will then have to decide between taking a 4-year deal and sacrifice about $2M a year compared to what he could've gotten staying with that team, or do 2 single year contracts and sign a long term contract when he's a 10-year vet. He already gave up a ton of money just to get out of a losing environment, so I don't blame him for not wanting to lose more Quote Link to post Share on other sites
babyfaceassasin 242 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 18 minutes ago, bballshinobi said: I wouldn't say he almost "brought" the team to the Finals. I also wouldn't say he was the engine that drove the Celtics. Horford, Rozier, and Stevens were more responsible for the success of the offense. Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart, and Marcus Morris defended the other team's best players. Tatum didn't have to worry about anything else other than shooting the ball when the ball comes his way. The team didn't revolve around him.Donovan Mitchell actually had more responsibility for a playoff team, but you won't think as highly of him because the Jazz lost 1 round earlier? Just because Celtics has the better team doesn't make Tatum a better player. In fact, I don't think he would've had as much personal success if he didn't play with veterans and for such a good coach. You could, however, say that he was mature enough to handle the playoff pressure. I think he'll be a really good player, 5-10 time allstar good, but definitely not the type Celtics are talking themselves into. facts.they all had a role and tatums role was to score. they all excelled at it and played great team basketball. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
babyfaceassasin 242 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 minute ago, bballshinobi said: Leaving NOLA is already costing him about $33M. I think he's the first player who qualified for DPOE who still chooses to leave his original team. If he leaves the team that trades for him and signs a deal in free agency, he will then have to decide between taking a 4-year deal and sacrifice about $2M a year compared to what he could've gotten staying with that team, or do 2 single year contracts and sign a long term contract when he's a 10-year vet. He already gave up a ton of money just to get out of a losing environment, so I don't blame him for not wanting to lose more if he goes to LA then he will make up all that money because of all the endorsements he is gonna get anyways. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bballshinobi 1,459 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 minute ago, babyfaceassasin said: if he goes to LA then he will make up all that money because of all the endorsements he is gonna get anyways. Yea but don't forget things are also more expensive in LA. A $2 million mansion in NOLA probably costs $20M in Beverley Hills lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MNDOGG 466 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) What is the incentive for the Pelicans to strike a deal before the deadline? Celtics will drive up the price during the summer regardless of what ADs camp says.. that Laker offer is gong nowhere... Edited February 5, 2019 by MNDOGG Quote Link to post Share on other sites
babyfaceassasin 242 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 minute ago, bballshinobi said: Yea but don't forget things are also more expensive in LA. A $2 million mansion in NOLA probably costs $20M in Beverley Hills lol he can be in space jams 2 with LeBron and make money lmaoo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bballshinobi 1,459 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, MNDOGG said: What is the incentive for the Pelicans to strike a deal before the deadline? Celtics will drive up the price during the summer regardless of what ADs camp says.. that Laker offer is gong nowhere... There is a good chance that Celtics will have nobody to bid against in summer time. In Lakers' most recent offer they are taking back one of NOP's bad contracts (Solomon Hill), but they won't be able to do that during summer because their expiring contracts will have expired. Lakers will then either have to absorb AD's salary into their cap space, which will make things more difficult for them in terms of free agency plans too, or get a 3rd team involved. If the Knicks get the #1 pick, they might or might not want to trade it for AD, depending on if Kyrie and/or KD are really coming to NYC. If NOP wait until summer, then Celtics might very well be the only team that can offer a significant package. What makes you think Danny Ainge will really give up as much as the Lakers now if he knows no other teams can present a similar offer? Edited February 5, 2019 by bballshinobi 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DezedandConfused 2,984 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, MNDOGG said: What is the incentive for the Pelicans to strike a deal before the deadline? Celtics will drive up the price during the summer regardless of what ADs camp says.. that Laker offer is gong nowhere... AD's camp said hell only resign with Lakers, Bucks, Knicks, and Clippers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RingMyBell 454 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, bballshinobi said: There is a good chance that Celtics will have nobody to bid against in summer time. In Lakers' most recent offer they are taking back one of NOP's bad contracts (Solomon Hill), but they won't be able to do that during summer because their expiring contracts will have expired. Lakers will then either have to absorb AD's salary into their cap space, which will make things more difficult for them in terms of free agency plans too, or get a 3rd team involved. If the Knicks get the #1 pick, they might or might not want to trade it for AD, depending on if Kyrie and/or KD are really coming to NYC. If NOP wait until summer, then Celtics might very well be the only team that can offer a significant package. What makes you think Danny Ainge will really give up as much as the Lakers now if he knows no other teams can present a similar offer? You can never trust Ainge. He looks like the guy that will shaft you just because. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bsu27 171 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) Ima laugh if they wait then trade him to Boston in off season, Kyrie leaves and they trade away Tatum and Brown..... and then AD goes to LA in off season.... Boston would have Morris and Rozier.... lmao ! Edited February 5, 2019 by bsu27 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bballshinobi 1,459 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, RingMyBell said: You can never trust Ainge. He looks like the guy that will shaft you just because. That's the difference between the Lakers and Celtics. Lakers take care of their players while Celtics try to squeeze that last drop of juice from theirs. During Kobe's last years post-achillies tear Lakers still tried their best to field a decent team. When that didn't work they still paid Kobe big contracts for several years and let him play as long as he wanted to. Celtics on the other hand traded away Paul Pierce. Yes, the return is amazing, but I think that shows you Celtics is just a business. If you are a superstar then definitely avoid Celtics at all costs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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MNDOGG 466 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 30 minutes ago, bballshinobi said: There is a good chance that Celtics will have nobody to bid against in summer time. In Lakers' most recent offer they are taking back one of NOP's bad contracts (Solomon Hill), but they won't be able to do that during summer because their expiring contracts will have expired. Lakers will then either have to absorb AD's salary into their cap space, which will make things more difficult for them in terms of free agency plans too, or get a 3rd team involved. If the Knicks get the #1 pick, they might or might not want to trade it for AD, depending on if Kyrie and/or KD are really coming to NYC. If NOP wait until summer, then Celtics might very well be the only team that can offer a significant package. What makes you think Danny Ainge will really give up as much as the Lakers now if he knows no other teams can present a similar offer? It’s AD... The Pelicans just have to ask for it! There will be offers coming from all over the place...plus there is the chance that the Knicks land the #1 pick.. no matter how you look at it the best thing for the organization is to wait till the summer and let all the cards come out on the table... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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