ez2do4now 191 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 I am keeping a conservative stance on Boogie with averages of 24min, 14 pts, 7rebs, 3asts, 0.5stls, 1blk, 1trey for the next couple of months and numbers to gradually increase to 20% by the final month to 28.8min, 16.8pts, 8.4reb, 3.6asts, 0.6stls, 1.2blks, 1.2treys as the Warriors get ready for the post season. That would be about top70 ROS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoopnking24 106 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 10 hours ago, m1dday said: Wow yeah, I didn't think I'd be eating my words this soon. But hot damn, he looked great out there tonight. Still baffles me why the Lakers didn't take him and chose to start with McGee but oh well. 16-0 playoff run seems very likely now Bro... It's a wrap Other teams should just start prepping for the off-season at this point. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrBean 125 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 it's good that boogie's back but at the same time, it's risky to have gsw starters imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoopnking24 106 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 3 hours ago, MrBean said: it's good that boogie's back but at the same time, it's risky to have gsw starters imo Should we drop? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TSnyd 230 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Anyone received any good offers for Boogie since his debut? People are still low-balling me in my league.. Definitely think we could see top 75 value from Boogie, but obvious risk has me thinking Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ganandorf 438 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 traded josh richardson to get on the Boogie train...with AD being iffy needed some backup and someone that wont kill my Fg day in and day out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XOrad10 1,165 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NoHablaIngles 508 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 when this guy hits his stride he will be a handful. Buy-low if the window is still open. Kudos to all those that stashed him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chud12 4,076 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Who was that joker that said Boogie would be bad snd wouldn’t average 10 per?? 😂😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chud12 4,076 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 12/26/2018 at 12:24 AM, st1010 said: I'd be surprised if he averages >10 pts/game. Bball players, esp big men, are truly Achilles when it comes to that tendon. Um so u have to be impresssd so far with how Boogie has looked since you had ridiculously low expectations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ellejamil 841 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) Edited January 27, 2019 by ellejamil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
st1010 185 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 13 hours ago, chud12 said: Um so u have to be impresssd so far with how Boogie has looked since you had ridiculously low expectations. Yes, he's been impressive. Remember, it's not like I'm rooting for him to fail. I want him to succeed....but lose to the Raps in the Finals! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L3onD 883 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 1 hour ago, st1010 said: Yes, he's been impressive. Remember, it's not like I'm rooting for him to fail. I want him to succeed....but lose to the Raps in the Finals! unfortunately thats not happening Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bennyhbk 2 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 From the clips I've watched these past games, he seems super slow. Is that just me? Speed is the gauge for whether he's back. Yes Boogie has the shot & passing skills but what set him apart from other bigs he was simply explosive in the paint. I don't see that right now, and that's what people said the major concern for reaching top-30 fantasy value again. With his shooting & passing his ceiling would be around the top-50 game IMO. With the speed, he could be top-30. Fantasy BBall is all about assessing value - I really want to know what the outlook would be here with the actually skillset we see on the floor right now. Do these clips not show his explosiveness? or is that element not there (i.e red flags still up)? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chud12 4,076 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, bennyhbk said: From the clips I've watched these past games, he seems super slow. Is that just me? Speed is the gauge for whether he's back. Yes Boogie has the shot & passing skills but what set him apart from other bigs he was simply explosive in the paint. I don't see that right now, and that's what people said the major concern for reaching top-30 fantasy value again. With his shooting & passing his ceiling would be around the top-50 game IMO. With the speed, he could be top-30. Fantasy BBall is all about assessing value - I really want to know what the outlook would be here with the actually skillset we see on the floor right now. Do these clips not show his explosiveness? or is that element not there (i.e red flags still up)? He was never explosive or fast but Boogie has def lost a step that he prob won’t gain back until next year. He also doesn’t have the lift he used to have but these things are to be expected. Regardless Boogie can get away with all of this because of his b ball IQ and because of the pieces that are around him. Production should not be a problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bennyhbk 2 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 37 minutes ago, chud12 said: He was never explosive or fast but Boogie has def lost a step that he prob won’t gain back until next year. He also doesn’t have the lift he used to have but these things are to be expected. Regardless Boogie can get away with all of this because of his b ball IQ and because of the pieces that are around him. Production should not be a problem. Disagree... He had speed for a big, as evidence to some of his 17-18 highlights where he could straight up burn defenders: What made him top-30 value was this coupled with his ability to shoot the 3 ball. He could essentially park up behind the arc, put it on the floor, burn the defender coming at him en route to an easy bucket. So the question remains: a) has anyone (GS Fans?) watched complete games and seen this ability? (i.e. is it not shown on highlight clips & therefore the ceiling could be top--30) or B.) are we looking at a ceiling of 50-75th overall value? Pretty important distinction if we're looking to buy in on him, since the media has created a hype train. I'm in a keeper league so the risk is compounded: I'd need to cough up some good young players right now for him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Chambers 1,667 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, bennyhbk said: What made him top-30 value You're selling him short here. First or second rounder at the very lowest. In H2H he was a first rounder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quazza 2,353 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 8 hours ago, bennyhbk said: Disagree... He had speed for a big, as evidence to some of his 17-18 highlights where he could straight up burn defenders: What made him top-30 value was this coupled with his ability to shoot the 3 ball. He could essentially park up behind the arc, put it on the floor, burn the defender coming at him en route to an easy bucket. So the question remains: a) has anyone (GS Fans?) watched complete games and seen this ability? (i.e. is it not shown on highlight clips & therefore the ceiling could be top--30) or B.) are we looking at a ceiling of 50-75th overall value? Pretty important distinction if we're looking to buy in on him, since the media has created a hype train. I'm in a keeper league so the risk is compounded: I'd need to cough up some good young players right now for him. Have watched all his games since returning. He's definitely slower ATM. I'm not sure I've seen him once pump fake a defender and blow by them like he used to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bunnyzclan 64 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 7 hours ago, bennyhbk said: So the question remains: a) has anyone (GS Fans?) watched complete games and seen this ability? (i.e. is it not shown on highlight clips & therefore the ceiling could be top--30) or B.) are we looking at a ceiling of 50-75th overall value? Pretty important distinction if we're looking to buy in on him, since the media has created a hype train. I'm in a keeper league so the risk is compounded: I'd need to cough up some good young players right now for him. His post game is still questionable for the moment. He's strong enough to back down, but he ends up getting into bad situations and going for awkward layups. Not sure if its explosiveness or he's just not at game speed yet. He gets a lot of assist opportunities with the dribble handoffs he does. In terms of just averages right now, in terms of season average he's ranked 49th on Yahoo. I'd just interpret it however way you want to. I'd say his floor is probably top 55-60 for the season. Some people might disagree with me but I don't necessarily see why he can't be a top 30 player ROS with more minutes. Just for the season BroLo is ranked 37(avg) on Yahoo and 31 for season (bballmonster). I think he ends up around 25-30 later towards the season especially with how many touches he gets. Warriors have never played with a dominant big man either so he might get more touches to see how he fits in the system too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ellejamil 841 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Tom Chambers said: You're selling him short here. First or second rounder at the very lowest. In H2H he was a first rounder. I like your optimism, but I have to give a discount to how he's being utilized in GS plus being a 3rd/4th option. Giving him a 30% discount still equates to 3rd rounder stats (17.5ppg, 8rbs, 3 ast, 1stl, 1blk, 2 3s in 45-48% FG). Not bad. Although, I will concede to a possibility that he'll have a stretch producing first round value, maybe towards the end of the regular season when Kerr sits Durant/Steph more often and catches Boogie up to game speed. Edited January 28, 2019 by ellejamil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Chambers 1,667 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 hours ago, ellejamil said: I like your optimism, but I have to give a discount to how he's being utilized in GS plus being a 3rd/4th option. Giving him a 30% discount still equates to 3rd rounder stats (17.5ppg, 8rbs, 3 ast, 1stl, 1blk, 2 3s in 45-48% FG). Not bad. Although, I will concede to a possibility that he'll have a stretch producing first round value, maybe towards the end of the regular season when Kerr sits Durant/Steph more often and catches Boogie up to game speed. I didn't mean this year. The guy I was responding to was talking about 17-18 and the skillset and talent Boogie had then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ellejamil 841 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Tom Chambers said: I didn't mean this year. The guy I was responding to was talking about 17-18 and the skillset and talent Boogie had then. Oh okay. My bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mikhov 574 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I wanted to flip him after he got a few games in but damn, this is essentially him at his floor. The best offer I got is OPJ straight up and i’m not even sure if that’s even a good offer anymore. My only concern with him is overall health and restrictions. While he has looked a step slow, the back to back restriction has been debunked and he’s still a bully who can shoot. What kind of offers are you guys getting? As theres no point selling low anymore (9 cat, h2h) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kendanc 168 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Please Boogie.. don't jump ever again lol. With my luck he'll get 5 min playing time over the rest of the game now and then be dtd for three weeks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the1gq2nvy 214 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Cousins break out game coming tonight! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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