smeeze 6,212 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, WhatIsThisWizardry said: im not freaking out about anything, fantasy wise go ahead, as a raps supporter im very glad JV is gone Why dont we add the fact that he cant even beat out a rookie for a starting gig in memphis llol I was talking about Gasol, not JV. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ssolitare 118 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) Gasol is for the playoffs. The real playoffs. Edited February 13, 2019 by ssolitare 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ovofnd 545 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 They really brought him in to play 20mins damn haha. We LAWST. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flat_eric 362 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Raptors fans don't seem to be enjoying his benching either. https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1806133 Let's see what happens after ASB. Masai didn't bring in Gasol to rot on the bench - so there could be a disconnect between the front office and the coach Nick Nurse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goku 94 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 As I said when there were trade rumors, he's not guaranteed 30+ minutes anywhere he goes. Glad to see Marc on a winning team though, and definitely think he'll kill it in the play offs. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stay_woke 1,251 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Biggest issue for Gasol is how big Siakam is balling. With him playing so well the odds of Ibaka and Gasol getting minutes together is pretty low, that leaves him in an almost straight timeshare for the center minutes (with Ibaka getting a couple mins at the 4 too). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spyplane 1,604 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, WhatIsThisWizardry said: ive been watching for years as well, i can definitely say him not closing out games and having his minutes reduced is a huge indication that he was not very good lol That and it was incredibly painful watching him, for someone that tall to be flailing and cant even dunk from point blank, very slow and not explosive. im not impressed, would rather have poetl Per 36 minutes he has some of the best stats at his position. In the playoffs he's been game changing at times. You don't sound like someone who's paying close attention to him. JV is a good player who has been changing his game to match the changing NBA landscape. He's lost minutes because the Raptors are incredibly talented and are running a different offense than when he came in.I don't care if you don't like him, I don't care if you think he's bad but at least tell the truth. His ranking will rise in his new location. Bookmark my post. Edited February 14, 2019 by Spyplane Quote Link to post Share on other sites
My Dinner With Andre 5,805 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Must be a trip for Gasol to play 19-20 minutes--and win. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WhatIsThisWizardry 160 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Spyplane said: Per 36 minutes he has some of the best stats at his position. In the playoffs he's been game changing at times. You don't sound like someone who's paying close attention to him. JV is a good player who has been changing his game to match the changing NBA landscape. He's lost minutes because the Raptors are incredibly talented and are running a different offense than when he came in.I don't care if you don't like him, I don't care if you think he's bad but at least tell the truth. His ranking will rise in his new location. Bookmark my post. i doubt that to be true. lots of guys have great per 36 min stats but theres a reason they never reach said potential because they cant stay on the floor because THEY ARE NOT GOOD. and what do you know, ive been watching for years since VC days. i saw his career progression and simply am not impressed, i don't care if you think hes good, 17m a year is a terrible contract for a player of his calibre in today's league, it is very good for the raptors that hes gone, i dont care if he has a better career elsewhere, it won't translate to winning. no s---, his situation can't get worse lmfao the good thing about being at the bottom is you can only go up. mark my words, he'll never win a chip Edited February 14, 2019 by WhatIsThisWizardry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RCRanger03 608 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 I'm for buying a little low actually Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spyplane 1,604 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 2 hours ago, WhatIsThisWizardry said: i doubt that to be true. lots of guys have great per 36 min stats but theres a reason they never reach said potential because they cant stay on the floor because THEY ARE NOT GOOD. and what do you know, ive been watching for years since VC days. i saw his career progression and simply am not impressed, i don't care if you think hes good, 17m a year is a terrible contract for a player of his calibre in today's league, it is very good for the raptors that hes gone, i dont care if he has a better career elsewhere, it won't translate to winning. no s---, his situation can't get worse lmfao the good thing about being at the bottom is you can only go up. mark my words, he'll never win a chip How deep is your fantasy league? Actual player contracts have nothing to do with my league. All that matters in my league are the standard nine cats and in that setting he's been top 70 in the last two seasons. From here on out he should be top 70 again... Anyway, good luck and I hope you're able to build a successful fantasy team based on your strategy of focusing on player contracts and whether or not how they obtained their stats is exciting for you to watch on Sports Center. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hipriest69 840 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Some things to be optimistic about... 1. Either, post ASB the lineup changes and Marc starts and plays more minutes 2. Or, he stays on the bench but his minutes increase as he learns the system 3. He stays on the bench and feasts on the second unit and keeps his defensive focus high...in the 3 games he's played he has 4 blocks and 5 steals, in under 20 min/game... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WhatIsThisWizardry 160 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Spyplane said: How deep is your fantasy league? Actual player contracts have nothing to do with my league. All that matters in my league are the standard nine cats and in that setting he's been top 70 in the last two seasons. From here on out he should be top 70 again... Anyway, good luck and I hope you're able to build a successful fantasy team based on your strategy of focusing on player contracts and whether or not how they obtained their stats is exciting for you to watch on Sports Center. i was talking from a non fantasy perspective since you were... whyd you bring up such non valid points lol why do we give a s--- his per 36 if he cant even stay on the floor, why do we care he made a difference in playoffs when it doesnt matter in fantasy? a talented team you say? look at golden state, every one of those guys produces lol stop talking about non fantasy value and then circle back to talk only about fantasy. pull it together man. Quit holding a bias for this not valuable centre just because you drafted him. he is simply not that good. for instance young fantasy studs like mitchell robinson and kenrich williams were on the wire not too long ago around the time jval got traded. and Id easily drop val for either of those guys. Edited February 14, 2019 by WhatIsThisWizardry 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RCRanger03 608 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, WhatIsThisWizardry said: Quit holding a bias for this not valuable centre just because you drafted him. he is simply not that good. for instance young fantasy studs like mitchell robinson and kenrich williams were on the wire not too long ago around the time jval got traded. and Id easily drop val for either of those guys. This is a Marc Gasol thread? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRomo 82 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) As a Ibaka owner, I'd still rather own Gasol. Trying to trade for him 1 for 1. Edited February 15, 2019 by TonyRomo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hipriest69 840 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Word on the street is that Gasol will eventually start and play heavy minutes...probably next game after ASB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flat_eric 362 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, hipriest69 said: Word on the street is that Gasol will eventually start and play heavy minutes...probably next game after ASB Sauce? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hipriest69 840 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, flat_eric said: Sauce? Heard it from Josh Lloyd who quoted multiple sources close to the team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flat_eric 362 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Raptors coach Nick Nurse hasn't decided whether to start Serge Ibaka or Marc Gasol vs. the Spurs on Friday. Interesting. Ibaka kept the starting job when Gasol was traded to Toronto, but Nurse's indecision suggests that may not be the case long-term. This could also turn into a matchup-based situation, but either way the playing-time split should be consistent. We should get a better sense of the center spot after Thursday's practice. RELATED: Marc Gasol SOURCE: Josh Lewenberg on Twitter Feb 21, 2019, 12:09 PM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrGonzo 321 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 On 2/16/2019 at 10:01 AM, flat_eric said: Sauce? Barbeque. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flat_eric 362 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 If these blokes start choking in the playoffs again without even attempting to get Gasol ingrained in the first unit during the regular season, Nick Nurse should be fired. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Forever Smooth 194 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 On 2/14/2019 at 12:06 AM, Goku said: As I said when there were trade rumors, he's not guaranteed 30+ minutes anywhere he goes. Glad to see Marc on a winning team though, and definitely think he'll kill it in the play offs. When a team is winning like the Raps are and you get a All Star vet like Gasol who by the way is 34 yrs old and on the backside, you ease him in. Yeah he is better than Ibaka, but Ibaka is much younger. Don't wanna mess up what they have right now creating a mess and team chemistry. I get it given Gasol injury history as well, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El_Chingon 1,810 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Forever Smooth said: When a team is winning like the Raps are and you get a All Star vet like Gasol who by the way is 34 yrs old and on the backside, you ease him in. Yeah he is better than Ibaka, but Ibaka is much younger. Don't wanna mess up what they have right now creating a mess and team chemistry. I get it given Gasol injury history as well, Not so sure Serge is "much younger." He might be 32 years old in real life. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Forever Smooth 194 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 minute ago, El_Chingon said: Not so sure Serge is "much younger." He might be 32 years old in real life. He's listed being 29, but he does look 40. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ginocan 1,246 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I don’t know there was a play last night where Marc was guarding Alridge. And Alridge was able to easily overpowered Marc and get to the basket said a lot about his ability at this stage. A little bit sad to see as I truly miss the great playoff battles between the Marc Gasol, Allen, Conley, Zbo combo versus SAS. Those series were great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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