Members_Only_76 7,289 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Bad trade (not mine), but veto? PPR league. JuJu Smith-Schuster Joe Mixon Patrick Mahomes Jordan Reed for Alvin Kamara Tarik Cohen Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 104 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 that looks like a trade made to look reasonable. ive never been a commish but if team B had a bad record, i might veto that one. Link to post Share on other sites
youngrice 1,303 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 19 minutes ago, Scott3705 said: that looks like a trade made to look reasonable. ive never been a commish but if team B had a bad record, i might veto that one. So you think the second team made the bad trade??? Honestly I team two is getting the better end of the deal. Link to post Share on other sites
Godeep 157 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Another trade that looks even to me... More Vetos to stop teams from having harder teams to beat in the playoffs... It's a growing trend to cry foul and cheat the team that drafted more overall value from cashing in their bench value for a better starter set. Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 104 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 1 hour ago, youngrice said: So you think the second team made the bad trade??? Honestly I team two is getting the better end of the deal. yea. guess that makes it even? it looks pretty bad to me. looks like kamara got thrown in to make it respectable. Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 104 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 who has the dead to rights record? Link to post Share on other sites
bhawks489 3,678 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Looks fine Link to post Share on other sites
kramer 34 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 yeah, not veto worthy... Link to post Share on other sites
jpark211 275 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 wow extremely lopsided... but who knows maybe the guy giving up mahomes and juju is a taco lol Link to post Share on other sites
youngrice 1,303 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Scott3705 said: yea. guess that makes it even? it looks pretty bad to me. looks like kamara got thrown in to make it respectable. The second team would be sending Kamara. So I we are thinking on the same line. The second team getting a top 10 RB, Top 15 WR, the top QB and a top 6 TE is getting the much better end of the deal. Though with Cohen playing like a top RB these days I don't know if I would veto it. Link to post Share on other sites
dmb3684 4,644 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 1 hour ago, youngrice said: The second team would be sending Kamara. So I we are thinking on the same line. The second team getting a top 10 RB, Top 15 WR, the top QB and a top 6 TE is getting the much better end of the deal. Though with Cohen playing like a top RB these days I don't know if I would veto it. As an owner of Reed in every league, he is very far from a top 6 TE . Trade is fine though. Link to post Share on other sites
Yardage33 19 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 The ONLY reason to veto a trade is collusion. The fairness is irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites
Rush2112 4,320 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 That was a good deal next year join a new league where no vetos are allowed, and every deal happens. Link to post Share on other sites
jumper 547 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 2 hours ago, youngrice said: The second team would be sending Kamara. So I we are thinking on the same line. The second team getting a top 10 RB, Top 15 WR, the top QB and a top 6 TE is getting the much better end of the deal. Though with Cohen playing like a top RB these days I don't know if I would veto it. If you ignore the second team is giving up arguably the 2nd or 3rd best RB in fantasy, assets like that don't come cheap. Guys like Gurley, Barkley, or Karama are definitely worth the QB1 and a bunch of starter quality but not elite skill players. Assets like that don't come cheap. Whoever said Kamara was a throw-in must have meant Cohen was the throw-in. Cohen is having a good run but might not even be startable by the time the fantasy playoffs roll around. Link to post Share on other sites
Teedy333 3 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 3 hours ago, youngrice said: The second team would be sending Kamara. So I we are thinking on the same line. The second team getting a top 10 RB, Top 15 WR, the top QB and a top 6 TE is getting the much better end of the deal. Though with Cohen playing like a top RB these days I don't know if I would veto it. I'm not commenting on the rest but Reed is not a Top 6 TE!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 104 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Have to chime in one more time here. Im usually against these vetoes, but this really does seem like collusion to me. Kamara is rest of season number 3 and mixon 9 on fanatasy pros ppr rankings. 5 and 8 in nonppr. (I honestly think thats high for kamara and dont think heis at the same level as the elite 4, so for me, mixon and kamara are their only little mini tier.) Then for cohen, you get the best fantasy qb out there and a fringe wr1thats getting drafted probably a full 2 rounds higher. Said another way, you are exchanging a 1st and 4th rd pick for a 1st, 2rd, and 4th. Collusion doesnt necessarily need to look totally stupid. It doesnt work if you make it obvious. The team getting kamara probably has the losing record i would think. I actually dont mind the league vetoing this one. Link to post Share on other sites
y2jbones 257 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I'm not a fan of vetoing trades. Many trades you may not agree with but the manager is honestly trying to improve his team. Both sides are improving at different positions. I'd let it go. Link to post Share on other sites
Bandito 2,592 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Assuming the team giving up Mahomes has a viable option at QB (and these days it's hard NOT too), I'm alright with this deal. Definitely NOT vetoable. Link to post Share on other sites
youngrice 1,303 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Teedy333 said: I'm not commenting on the rest but Reed is not a Top 6 TE!!!!!!! Ok great I honestly don't own Reed in any leagues and have not paid attention. But thank you for the 8 exclamation points. They did alot. Link to post Share on other sites
youngrice 1,303 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Scott3705 said: Have to chime in one more time here. Im usually against these vetoes, but this really does seem like collusion to me. Kamara is rest of season number 3 and mixon 9 on fanatasy pros ppr rankings. 5 and 8 in nonppr. (I honestly think thats high for kamara and dont think heis at the same level as the elite 4, so for me, mixon and kamara are their only little mini tier.) Then for cohen, you get the best fantasy qb out there and a fringe wr1thats getting drafted probably a full 2 rounds higher. Said another way, you are exchanging a 1st and 4th rd pick for a 1st, 2rd, and 4th. Collusion doesnt necessarily need to look totally stupid. It doesnt work if you make it obvious. The team getting kamara probably has the losing record i would think. I actually dont mind the league vetoing this one. Honestly I don't think this is a smart trade but a trade doesn't have to be smart to be ok. You don't veto trades to protect dumb owners. Link to post Share on other sites
AlexxelA 145 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I think JuJu/Mixon for Kamara/Cohen is pretty even but favoring Kamara a bit. It's like getting the #1 QB for free! Link to post Share on other sites
Teedy333 3 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 30 minutes ago, youngrice said: Ok great I honestly don't own Reed in any leagues and have not paid attention. But thank you for the 8 exclamation points. They did alot. You're welcome, hope they did as much for you as your sarcasm did for me. If you're not paying attention how are stating he's a top 6 TE? Maybe only speak on things you know about!!!!!!!!!!! (since you like em so much) Link to post Share on other sites
youngrice 1,303 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, Teedy333 said: You're welcome, hope they did as much for you as your sarcasm did for me. If you're not paying attention how are stating he's a top 6 TE? Maybe only speak on things you know about!!!!!!!!!!! (since you like em so much) continue with the exclamation points guy. Hope it makes you feel important using them about the least important guy in the trade. Congrats on pointing it out so emphatically for the throw in. Maybe give him some advice on the guys that matter in the trade if you can. Oh I forgot to add!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Now I'm important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Teedy333 3 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, youngrice said: continue with the exclamation points guy. Hope it makes you feel important using them about the least important guy in the trade. Congrats on pointing it out so emphatically for the throw in. Maybe give him some advice on the guys that matter in the trade if you can. Oh I forgot to add!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Now I'm important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're defensive because you're wrong, Guy. Who wants advice from someone who acknowledges they don't know what they're talking about? Pretend it's about the exclamation points and deflect all you want. I couldn't care less, it's not that deep. Link to post Share on other sites
youngrice 1,303 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Teedy333 said: You're defensive because you're wrong, Guy. Who wants advice from someone who acknowledges they don't know what they're talking about? Pretend it's about the exclamation points and deflect all you want. I couldn't care less, it's not that deep. The only thing you have talked about is Reed the most worthless part of the trade. How have you given any advice besides been the king of the exclamation points. Link to post Share on other sites
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