meh2 3,508 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 21 minutes ago, ST. STEVEN said: I'd hit Polanco lead-off and Buxton 2nd... Buxton, Polanco, and Kepler have pretty drastic righty/lefty splits. Buxton has a .432wOBA against L and .328 against R. He hasn't really done anything against R this year to justify any other spot, but I think he'd be great against L in the leadoff slot. You could move either Polanco or Kepler down against L as they have a .325 and .317 wOBA respectively. I think they're optimal lineup against lefties would be: 1. Buxton (.432wBOA) 2. Garver (.507) 3. Cron (.477) 4. Cruz (.443) 5. Rosario (.345) 6. Sano (.359) 7. Polanco (.325) 8. Schoop (.286) 9. Kepler (.317) I realize it'll never happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Overlord 997 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Low and Away said: Where would you bat him though? The highest in the order I could see him might be 6th and that isn't ideal as it wouldn't improve his counting stats, imo. Kepler has a line of 42/15/40/1 with 26 walks/38k .264AVE, .341OBP, .536SLG, .878OPS Polanco 41R/10HR/34RBI .333AVE, .393OBP, .569SLG, .962OPS 3-5 almost has to be Cron, Rossario, and Cruz in some order. Then Sano at 6th with Schoop/Garver following. 9th just seems to be where he fits best in the order. I would bat him lead-off (or maybe 2nd) against lefties and sixth against righties. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CFN 1,663 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 7 hours ago, cs3 said: First off, my comment isn't directed at you personally, but I see this kind of thing posted very often, and I want to present a more useful line of thinking. I get what you're saying about ADP and being happy with what you've got out of him, but that's not really how you should view guys like Buxton. For example, he had an 18th rd ADP on Yahoo. An 18th rounder returning 18th round value is not helping you win your league. You can argue that its not even helping you at all. 18th round value is not really even startable in normal sized leagues . In order to win leagues you need your late rounder to provide surplus value. Because if you aren't getting more than you paid for on those late round fliers, then theyre basically useless and can be replaced by players on the waiver wire. If you're looking to win your league, Buxton has still been a disappointment. And this isn't limited to just Buxton or just this thread. (And im not even necessarily trying to say that Buxton has only provided 18th round value. I know hes been better than that.) In general you're hoping to hit on a couple late rounders that provide significant surplus. While its fairly important for early round picks, getting "what you pay for" out of those end-of-the-draft guys is not actually helping you. Surplus value is what's important Agree to disagree. Buxton is ranked in the 60-70 range on the season overall right now. And he's #20 over the last month and I think he'll settle into the 50's pretty easily with the adjustments he's made this year. Dude was going in the 180-200 range. That's surplus value to me. Oh yeah and he's one of the few legit SB threats who doesn't kill you in every other batting category. Immensely valuable in my eyes. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mjb03003 1,974 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Are you not entertained!? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mjb03003 1,974 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 His next HR will make him the 2nd person in the AL with 10 HR / 10 SB. Currently only Mondesi has 10+ / 10+ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TTRA1N 860 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, mjb03003 said: His next HR will make him the 2nd person in the AL with 10 HR / 10 SB. Currently only Mondesi has 10+ / 10+ Mondesi has 6 HR/26 SB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mjb03003 1,974 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, TTRA1N said: Mondesi has 6 HR/26 SB Yeah woops, looks like I misread the statline there. So no one in the AL has made it to 10/10 yet, and Buxton could be the first! FWIW: In the AL other candidates to be the first to reach 10/10 are Tim Anderson (9/15), Kevin Kiermaier (8/11), Rafael Devers (9/8), Austin Meadows (12/8), and Ramon Laureano (9/8) In the NL you have Yelich (25/14), Story (15/11), & Marte (10/11) already there and Robles (9/9), Myers (11/9), Puig (11/9) & Acuña Jr. (15/9) knocking on the door. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
colepenhagen 3,561 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) pretty crazy hes at 38/38 runs/rbis in the 9 hole. compared to mondesi whos 38/44 hitting 3rd all year and moncada 38/39 Edited June 13, 2019 by colepenhagen 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fiveohnine 1,503 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I can see why they’re afraid to touch anything with Buxton. And they’re winning baseball games. So it’s obviously been an “ain’t broke don’t fix it” approach. At the beginning of the season the strategy of hitting Buxton ninth was perfectly logical. Get his glove out in CF all day every day while minimizing the number of his ABs the team had to eat. But at this point I think he’s proven that his ABs should no longer be considered a liability. Once he finally gets to the plate, his speed actually plays well from the bottom of the order, which also affords him pretty good protection. The drastically reduced plate appearances from batting 9th are real though (he has only 220 PAs despite playing pretty much every day which is like 7th on the team). But that’s probably hurting his fantasy numbers more than the Twins for the reasons above. I mean it’s not like they’re running out a bunch of easy outs at the top of the order. If that were the case, then he probably would have been moved to leadoff a long time ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mevins31 1,305 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 He's putting it together. Injuries just seem to find him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weakkneeswilly 749 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Buxton exited Friday's game against the Royals due to a right wrist bruise, and he'll be considered day-to-day moving forward, Brandon Warne of ZoneCoverage.com reports. Spin: Buxton was drilled by a pitch on his right wrist, though he luckily avoided any structural damage. Max Kepler or Eddie Rosario may need to bump over to center field if Buxton is unable to go Saturday Quote Link to post Share on other sites
abachar 114 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Out of the lineup again...smh...so frail 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mlb2019 170 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 looking at his stats daily doesn't seem like he ranks where he does but the numbers are there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mevins31 1,305 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Just needs to stay healthy. Jesus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
colepenhagen 3,561 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 you just know hes going to go 1-12 when he comes back Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Junkie Cosmonaut 702 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 officially IL'd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TTRA1N 860 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Baseball really abusing the IL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The General 114 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Zero news on this guy. He should be back this week I thought, went from a small bruise with a day off to two weeks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whitekenyan24 147 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) I believe he's eligible to be activated tomorrow. http://www.startribune.com/twins-byron-buxton-waiting-for-activation-from-injured-list/511712212/ Sounds like tomorrow is a possibility but not for sure. This week though. Edited June 24, 2019 by whitekenyan24 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
urban2014 1,741 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 http://www.startribune.com/twins-byron-buxton-waiting-for-activation-from-injured-list/511712212/ Just this 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
urban2014 1,741 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Been horrible since returning. Only 4 games but still Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mevins31 1,305 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 This guy is a piece of work. Bubble wrap him so he can hit .250 for us in peace 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
meh2 3,508 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 The guy plays with reckless abandon that is fun to watch...unless he’s on your fantasy team. Every time I watch the Twins and see a fly ball hit to the gap I yell at my TV “Don’t get hurt!” But he never listens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
murraygd13 1,234 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 On the DL again, what a waste. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mevins31 1,305 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 (edited) He’s not really even a baseball player anymore. At least it wasn’t a headache or his wisdom teeth bothering him today. Edited August 3, 2019 by mevins31 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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