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I think these questions are relevant here because we're talking bout the best guy to pick up here. People mentioning Harrell, siakam, I'll throw out Zac Collins too. All these guys seem to be in a gro

Lol. Classic Roto Forums. First quarter RIP. Drop city. Second half,  he's the best player on the team. 4th quarter, ok I'll hold for now. After game, definite hold.

Just now, chud12 said:

The question nobody has asked, what happens when Knox comes back?

Vonleh has been playing the majority of his minutes at center. He should be in line for 20+ minutes per game at worst, and if he keeps playing like this he's still ownable. Worry about it later.

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I like this guy, i think hes finally getting the chance to shine after being on Portland's crowded front court of Aminu, Meyers Leonard, Zach Collins, Swannigan, Papagiannis and Ed Davis. Thats six bigs on Portland's 2018 roster!

 

Physically, hes built like Ed Davis and Aminu and even plays like them. If he can start hitting 3s consistently, hes gonna be a great small ball big.

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15 hours ago, nyfresh1 said:

Was just looking at him for  possible pickup for next week (4 games).  He gets a lot of boards but doesn't score a whole lot.  He's never been a big contributor in steals or blocks which limits his upside and makes him more of a boards specialist.  I do think he can be useful in a 4 game week if you need boards.  He could also give you low TOs and decent FG% on low volume.  If he stays in the starting lineup and continues to see minutes in the upper 20s he could be very useful

Well I guess he proved me wrong.  I'll be having my crow grilled tonight for dinner

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4 hours ago, fantasm said:

wrong forum but i'd hold siakam. siakam is nice too.

 

I think these questions are relevant here because we're talking bout the best guy to pick up here. People mentioning Harrell, siakam, I'll throw out Zac Collins too. All these guys seem to be in a group of possible break outs. Siakam looks a little limited by mins as OG is out and will get some when he comes back, but he is VERY good, easily the best IRL player of any of these guys. Collins is showing he can get it done in limited mins but his upside is capped unless he can knock off nurk which seems unlikely. Harrell has the most limited game of these guys IMO as he is just an efficient pick and roll big with some blocks upside - think faried plus a little blocks and less boards. Now Vonleh... He seems like he has the clearest path to mins and a large role with the Knicks. He can shoot, looks like the stocks are there and rbs are good and good %s. Is the talent really there? He's been around a while but this is his best chance. If he can prove himself he'll get all he can handle all year I think. I'm interested in others opinions on these end of bench bigs with some break out potential 

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46 minutes ago, Jake the snake said:

 

I think these questions are relevant here because we're talking bout the best guy to pick up here. People mentioning Harrell, siakam, I'll throw out Zac Collins too. All these guys seem to be in a group of possible break outs. Siakam looks a little limited by mins as OG is out and will get some when he comes back, but he is VERY good, easily the best IRL player of any of these guys. Collins is showing he can get it done in limited mins but his upside is capped unless he can knock off nurk which seems unlikely. Harrell has the most limited game of these guys IMO as he is just an efficient pick and roll big with some blocks upside - think faried plus a little blocks and less boards. Now Vonleh... He seems like he has the clearest path to mins and a large role with the Knicks. He can shoot, looks like the stocks are there and rbs are good and good %s. Is the talent really there? He's been around a while but this is his best chance. If he can prove himself he'll get all he can handle all year I think. I'm interested in others opinions on these end of bench bigs with some break out potential 

 

I think you pretty much nailed it for all the players you listed.  I just can't bring myself to trust Vonleh.  He's been on 4 teams in 5 seasons and hasn't been able to lock down a consistent bench role let alone a starting gig at any of them.  This is the Knicks though and they need help on the boards and interior defense something crazy.   If he's available you could do worse than taking a flier on him.

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1 hour ago, ComeOnAndSlam said:

 

I think you pretty much nailed it for all the players you listed.  I just can't bring myself to trust Vonleh.  He's been on 4 teams in 5 seasons and hasn't been able to lock down a consistent bench role let alone a starting gig at any of them.  This is the Knicks though and they need help on the boards and interior defense something crazy.   If he's available you could do worse than taking a flier on him.

 

 

Yeah I don't trust him much but he has been the best big in the Knicks stable. By far the best netratg and dratg on/off, and I have to believe Fizdale is seeing that, which is why he's getting the minutes. Fizdale changed the starting lineup specifically to get more defense and I think that really bodes well for Vonleh over Kanter, who is terrible on D despite the gaudy rebounds.  

 

Of the three guys, Vonleh probably has the lowest ceiling, imo, as I don't think he can shoot or has much offense. He's never been much of a stocks guy either that I can remember, though it's been there the past few games.  

 

So I think Collins and Harrell have much more upside, but Vonleh has much more opportunity. Barring a long losing streak I think he can probably fight his way into keeping this starting gig (assuming Porzingis doesn't come back).

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I think Vonleh will be able to sustain 20-25 minutes after Knox's return. Whether or not Zingis returns is a whole different story but I figure he'll see reasonable minutes at the 5 for Fizdale's small ball lineups when Knox comes back and will be the de facto four in normal lineups.

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I see a lot or similarities in vonleh's game with WCJ's. Long arms, rack up defensive stocks, ability to improve in their three game, over 70% from freethrow line, surprising ability to dish assists

 

Have to pick up and see.

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4 hours ago, bhkim814 said:

I see a lot or similarities in vonleh's game with WCJ's. Long arms, rack up defensive stocks, ability to improve in their three game, over 70% from freethrow line, surprising ability to dish assists

 

Have to pick up and see.

He's able to do a lot of things well. I went to Indiana. It's really been sad watching him be misused ever since high school. Maybe New York will give him more run. He's very skilled. He has all of the physical tools, the inside and out scoring skills, and the passing ability. He may never have the aggressiveness to clear 13 ppg regardless of minutes, but everything else is in place.

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2 hours ago, DoctorLove said:

What was his pedigree coming out of college?  Don't know anything about him but picked him up anyway.

Was drafted lotto on potential. Very raw in college and didn't even get much playing time, I believe he put up good per minute #s as well

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