bomont 834 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 At his best and IF he stays healthy, much more than RB3. RB1 potential even, not that I'm projecting that, esp on this mess of a team. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sjm76 769 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) Well, I said to avoid him earlier in this thread but I ended up taking him as my lead candidate to be my rb2 in a league because rb's were unexpectedly flying off the board rounds earlier than projected before I had the chance to select my 2nd one. He was the best projected starter available at my pick. He had a pretty nasty injury but he seems to have a lot of guts and all reports I've heard so far are good. Edited August 4, 2019 by sjm76 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trifecta 2,144 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) Where do we see his dynasty value? I'm trying to determine where to place him against this year's class of rookie RBs. Edited August 11, 2019 by Trifecta Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ItsMeMario 119 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 46 minutes ago, Trifecta said: Where do we see his dynasty value? I'm trying to determine where to place him against this year's class of rookie RBs. Same Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bmore86 267 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 22 minutes ago, ItsMeMario said: Same I think he would have gone 1.02 in drafts this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Odam 925 Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Trifecta said: Where do we see his dynasty value? I'm trying to determine where to place him against this year's class of rookie RBs. Through...the...roof. Don’t be surprised if he’s an rb2 by the end of THIS season and an early round pick in redraft next year 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trifecta 2,144 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, Joe Odam said: Through...the...roof. Don’t be surprised if he’s an rb2 by the end of THIS season and an early round pick in redraft next year You are obviously his big propenent here and I love the enthusiasm. But there is great variability to his potential outcomes. For context, I meant where would you take him vs Josh Jacobs, Montgomery, Sanders? Most dynasty ranks have him below them all. I think a lot has to do with possibility of a true RBBC for this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bam327 21 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Joe Odam said: Through...the...roof. Don’t be surprised if he’s an rb2 by the end of THIS season and an early round pick in redraft next year I really agree. I hope I can draft Guice in my keeper league. There’s no other RB I’m more excited about talent wise. His situation is horrible which is an obvious downgrade, but I don’t see much of a rbbc here this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chardo 507 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, bam327 said: I really agree. I hope I can draft Guice in my keeper league. There’s no other RB I’m more excited about talent wise. His situation is horrible which is an obvious downgrade, but I don’t see much of a rbbc here this season. As long as Peterson is healthy, he's gonna get fed. It's total RBBC this year while AP is there. Edited August 11, 2019 by Chardo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bam327 21 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 21 minutes ago, Chardo said: As long as Peterson is healthy, he's gonna get fed. It's total RBBC this year while AP is there. Completely disagree. Peterson will see the field but if healthy Guice is their back. There’s not even a question in my mind. Sure CT is still there too and he will get some carries, but not much more from either other than to spell Guice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sack Exchange 1,037 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 22 minutes ago, bam327 said: Completely disagree. Peterson will see the field but if healthy Guice is their back. There’s not even a question in my mind. Sure CT is still there too and he will get some carries, but not much more from either other than to spell Guice. gotta agree with @Chardo here: peterson showed no signs of slowing down last season, carried much of the dirt-poor offense on his back, and is eager to play some football. guice is a great kid / great work ethic, but he's recovering from injury / infection, and realistically washington is rebuild mode. with little hopes of advancing into the post-season, they will not beat guice into the ground fresh back from injury; a cautious approach and RBBC makes entire sense, and it wouldn't surprise me to see AP get the majority of the touches, especially if he runs like he did last season. the coaches like him and the front office gave him a new contract with guaranteed money at least for 2019: AP is the RB of today, guice the RB of tomorrow. besides, if adrian peterson doesn't get fed, he can't hit his mark of 2000 yards. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudewijn 4,837 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Sack Exchange said: and realistically washington is rebuild mode I think you are probably the first person this year (this decade?) to use those 2 words in the same sentence. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorSpaceman 2,523 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 12 hours ago, Trifecta said: Where do we see his dynasty value? I'm trying to determine where to place him against this year's class of rookie RBs. I think you could make a sound argument that he’s more talented than any of this year’s rookie backs. His questionable situation and return from injury are keeping some at bay, but it’d be justifiable to take Guice over the rookies in dynasty formats. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Agmaniacmike 84 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Guice is uber talented. Obviously, RBs coming off of ACL injuries have a history of lingering hamstring issues, but at his current ADP, where mainly cuffs are available, I'll gladly take a shot on a high upside player like Guice. As good as AD is, he's 34 and has played through a variety of injuries in recent years, unfortunately, I think the odds are high that he misses considerable time in 2019. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Odam 925 Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Agmaniacmike said: Guice is uber talented. Obviously, RBs coming off of ACL injuries have a history of lingering hamstring issues, but at his current ADP, where mainly cuffs are available, I'll gladly take a shot on a high upside player like Guice. As good as AD is, he's 34 and has played through a variety of injuries in recent years, unfortunately, I think the odds are high that he misses considerable time in 2019. Couldn’t agree more 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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elroypedro 350 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I read he looks good, making nice cuts at full speed without pads, is working on his hands a lot the last few weeks, but that he still isn’t fully cleared for games. I think he has a bright future, but it will likely start out as a slow build over the first half, or even more, of this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Impreza178 6,046 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, elroypedro said: I read he looks good, making nice cuts at full speed without pads, is working on his hands a lot the last few weeks, but that he still isn’t fully cleared for games. I think he has a bright future, but it will likely start out as a slow build over the first half, or even more, of this season. After last season’s tragedy... I wouldn’t expect full contact even if he was 100%. Lots of time to go- Just be fresh for week 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elroypedro 350 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Impreza178 said: After last season’s tragedy... I wouldn’t expect full contact even if he was 100%. Lots of time to go- Just be fresh for week 1 I agree. I think I’m being extra cautious. He could come out ready to go, but I think it is just much safer to assume he takes a while to get up to full volume touches and full NFL game speed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Odam 925 Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 Honestly at his draft cost I’d rather he start out slow, or even not play at all. His ADP allows you total freedom to stick him on your bench and have a plug and play rb2 with rb1 upside for the stretch. I’d even be ok with PUP. Fresh legs + talent + chip on shoulder is a beautiful combination for the fantasy playoffs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lamont Sanford 1,813 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I don’t know, there’s something about Guice that whispers “patience” to me. Maybe it was simply the game films I watched that left me in awe. But maybe it’s also knowing the kid faced incredible adversity in year one, and seems to have come back mentally stronger, which leads me to believe he’ll come back physically stronger as well. His attitude exemplary, his enthusiasm infectious. He seems to truly understand, and more importantly believe, that the payoff will be worth the wait and that’s what gets me excited. I’ll continue to wait patiently for what I believe will eventually define an unleashing. 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ItsMeMario 119 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Lamont Sanford said: I don’t know, there’s something about Guice that whispers “patience” to me. Maybe it was simply the game films I watched that left me in awe. But maybe it’s also knowing the kid faced incredible adversity in year one, and seems to have come back mentally stronger, which leads me to believe he’ll come back physically stronger as well. His attitude exemplary, his enthusiasm infectious. He seems to truly understand, and more importantly believe, that the payoff will be worth the wait and that’s what gets me excited. I’ll continue to wait patiently for what I believe will eventually define an unleashing. Yeah, next year. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyman75 5,187 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 9 hours ago, ItsMeMario said: Yeah, next year. For those in keepers and dynasties, next year is always a part of the equation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Impreza178 6,046 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, ItsMeMario said: Yeah, next year. Wrong. Unleashed by week 8 Edited August 15, 2019 by Impreza178 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ItsMeMario 119 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Impreza178 said: Wrong. Coming back an acl he will not be 100 % and he is more prone to hamstring injury ... its take 2 years to sustain full form FULL season play Edited August 15, 2019 by ItsMeMario Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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