pastorofmuppets2 10,634 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 On 11/14/2019 at 3:20 PM, DekuTree said: So it appears @pastorofmuppets2 may not have been too far off to begin with, because while the stats I posted for fantasy points allowed to RBs still stand (Jets allowing right about the average to the position), there's a lot of analysts today pointing out that the Jets are sitting at #2 at DVOA against the run (essentially, points allowed once adjusted for opponent, game situation, score, field position, and other factors). I'm still inclined to consider them still in the mediocre area of run defenses, simply because the DVOA seems to indicate what is already obvious - that they allowed a lot of RB points to great offenses, allowed middling production to average offenses, and were able to stop the bad ones. That said, where you value Guice this week will probably depend on how you view the Redskins offense in its current state - do you consider them more average, along the lines of Buffalo, that can eke out some points with the right gameplan? Or do you view them as a simply bad offense like Miami, that won't be able to overcome a rush defense that puts up even moderate resistance? just to follow up ... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlayTheWaivers 1,886 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 46 minutes ago, pastorofmuppets2 said: just to follow up ... Makes what the Redskins did more impressive considering they didn't have a god awful ypc. The point is: attack the Jets with pass catching backs. Guice made some serious good moves. How can anyone not start him in a flex next week? Detroit is just god awful 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post mulhollandvelvet 997 Posted November 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2019 Rotoworld on Sunday: the Redskins aren't likely to make Guice a workhorse in 2019 given his injury history. Guice is a bench stash and low-end flex play for those in trouble. Rotoworld on Monday: his favorable schedule through the fantasy football playoffs could make him a potential league-winner. 3 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevenSC400 1,002 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, PlayTheWaivers said: Makes what the Redskins did more impressive considering they didn't have a god awful ypc. The point is: attack the Jets with pass catching backs. Guice made some serious good moves. How can anyone not start him in a flex next week? Detroit is just god awful If you have a good team guice wouldn’t be anywhere near your flex spot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlayTheWaivers 1,886 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 minute ago, StevenSC400 said: If you have a good team guice wouldn’t be anywhere near your flex spot. Care to elaborate? You don't think he'll he a top 36 rb against the worst defense in the league, when he just was a top 20 rb against the hardest rb matchup in the league, while trailing? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevenSC400 1,002 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, PlayTheWaivers said: Care to elaborate? You don't think he'll he a top 36 rb against the worst defense in the league, when he just was a top 20 rb against the hardest rb matchup in the league, while trailing? Its the NFL. Anyone can have a good game Against anyone at any given time. It wasn’t even a run. He caught a pass and had wide open running lanes. Anyone could have made that run. He didn’t do anything special besides run the sidelines. Why would I want to start a RB in a split on a bad team. Wait till Thompson gets back too. No thanks. Edited November 18, 2019 by StevenSC400 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big Nate 1,398 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 51 minutes ago, StevenSC400 said: If you have a good team guice wouldn’t be anywhere near your flex spot. Not everyone plays in 8-10man leagues. With bye weeks, someone who played Guice last week was rewarded with a solid outing so yes, playing him last week paid off. Moreover, many people play in keeper and dynasty leagues and what Guice does the rest of the year can have big implications going forward. What he did last week was a step in the right direction. As for Thompson he hasn't even practiced since week 6. I believe his contract is up this year and he might not even be back. It took Gordon a few games to get his football legs back after his holdout. I don't doubt it will take Guice a few more games to get back into full football shape. Easing him in is probably a good idea but come fantasy playoff time Guice could be looking at more work if he continues to play well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevenSC400 1,002 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, Big Nate said: Not everyone plays in 8-10man leagues. With bye weeks, someone who played Guice last week was rewarded with a solid outing so yes, playing him last week paid off. Moreover, many people play in keeper and dynasty leagues and what Guice does the rest of the year can have big implications going forward. What he did last week was a step in the right direction. As for Thompson he hasn't even practiced since week 6. I believe his contract is up this year and he might not even be back. It took Gordon a few games to get his football legs back after his holdout. I don't doubt it will take Guice a few more games to get back into full football shape. Easing him in is probably a good idea but come fantasy playoff time Guice could be looking at more work if he continues to play well. No one is talking about keepers here. We’re talking about a flex play. I get deep leagues but the original poster didn’t say that. He said how can anyone not start guice at flex. And I could easily leave guice out of a flex spot in 12-10 team leagues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KidDynamite420 143 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Holding Guice and dropping DJ... What has fantasy football become!? 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MurderInc 588 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 The problem is that Adrian Peterson is the starter and it's staying that way. Peterson won't be getting benched for Guice, and so it's no dice for Guice. At least this year. Guice didn't even get a touch until mid way through the second quarter the last game. I can't see starting Guice unless Peterson goes down. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlayTheWaivers 1,886 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, MurderInc said: The problem is that Adrian Peterson is the starter and it's staying that way. Peterson won't be getting benched for Guice, and so it's no dice for Guice. At least this year. Guice didn't even get a touch until mid way through the second quarter the last game. I can't see starting Guice unless Peterson goes down. Scared money make no money...he's a great stash 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hockeyfan77 681 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, MurderInc said: The problem is that Adrian Peterson is the starter and it's staying that way. Peterson won't be getting benched for Guice, and so it's no dice for Guice. At least this year. Guice didn't even get a touch until mid way through the second quarter the last game. I can't see starting Guice unless Peterson goes down. I don't care when my players get points, as long as they do 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LongBalls 1,193 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I'm forced to play him due to a confluence of unfortunate bye weeks in a 12 teamer. Couldn't ask for a better matchup. Hopefully Detroit can put up some points so Washington is chasing and AP doesn't see the field. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomei7 591 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 AP will be irrelevant, Guice time!! 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buck Showalter 65 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Hmm... could be interesting if AP is out. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LongBalls 1,193 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) Oh wow. Yeah if AP is out let's play ball here. Thompson's not going to do much outside of be a COP option. Edited November 20, 2019 by LongBalls 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jclee4 532 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, Buck Showalter said: Hmm... could be interesting if AP is out. Wow the timing of this. Things just got real. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FitzMagic 4,260 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) AD has been getting a routine vet day, so I wouldn't get excited until Friday. We've seen this before with his ankle. The guy was pretty banged up and then shows up on game day perfectly fine. Edited November 20, 2019 by FitzMagic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Members_Only_76 7,283 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
panthersfan75 125 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LongBalls 1,193 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Does AP have turf toe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buck Showalter 65 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 AP followed this routine last week. Tomorrow is the day to watch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truth11 20 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, LongBalls said: Does AP have turf toe? Coach Bill Callahan said Peterson got the day off for rest, but the 34-year-old is officially being listed on Washington's injury report with turf toe. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Baller 126 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, Buck Showalter said: AP followed this routine last week. Tomorrow is the day to watch. This Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Members_Only_76 7,283 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, Buck Showalter said: AP followed this routine last week. Tomorrow is the day to watch. 3 minutes ago, Mr_Baller said: This Did he have the toe issue last week? That's new I thought... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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