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What do you mean not functional? Knees and ankles can bend in any direction and sustain pressure from all angles when being tackled. I could definitely see Alv's ankles stretching to the limits tested in the yoga ball exercise during one of his jukes. The writer of this article also stated that Dr. Tabbah (Alvin's trainer) and Mark Asanovich (trainer criticizing Tabbah's approach) are both qualified under the same conditioning certificates...so how can one be completely wrong? LaDainian Tomlinson trained under similar conditions and had a long and productive career. 

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2 minutes ago, 30Burger said:

What do you mean not functional? Knees and ankles can bend in any direction and sustain pressure from all angles when being tackled. I could definitely see Alv's ankles stretching to the limits tested in the yoga ball exercise during one of his jukes. The writer of this article also stated that Dr. Tabbah (Alvin's trainer) and Mark Asanovich (trainer criticizing Tabbah's approach) are both qualified under the same conditioning certificates...so how can one be completely wrong? LaDainian Tomlinson trained under similar conditions and had a long and productive career. 

asanovich has the same credentials as tabbah regarding his Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist certification (CSCS) through the National Strength and Conditioning Association (NSCA), yes

but tabbah (seen here) has additional mystical powers

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1 hour ago, Stonej14 said:

 

Are you like a doctor or strength and conditioning specialist or something that can verify this? (Seriously wanna know). I mean I certainly dont know anything about it I just thought it was awfully impressive and just seeing the hand eye coordination just blows my mind.

Nah, just have had S&C coaches for years and they bitch incessantly about it. They make bosu balls for standing on or balance boards if you want to do stability training. Most likely (hopefully) his coach was treating it like a circus trick to impress people and not as a training tool.

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1 hour ago, 30Burger said:

What do you mean not functional? Knees and ankles can bend in any direction and sustain pressure from all angles when being tackled. I could definitely see Alv's ankles stretching to the limits tested in the yoga ball exercise during one of his jukes. The writer of this article also stated that Dr. Tabbah (Alvin's trainer) and Mark Asanovich (trainer criticizing Tabbah's approach) are both qualified under the same conditioning certificates...so how can one be completely wrong? LaDainian Tomlinson trained under similar conditions and had a long and productive career. 

Because one has the support of the academia and the other doesn't? Just because Tabbah has the same training doesn't mean his views/methods are reflected by his peers.

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On 5/11/2019 at 11:37 AM, 30Burger said:

I actually feel the opposite...wouldn't this yoga ball training strengthen the ligaments in his ankles and knees to help him avoid sprains/tears during awkward tackles?? Also improves overall balance which will help prevent injury. 

Yes, I believe you are correct.

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On 5/11/2019 at 3:00 PM, hoppychokes said:

Nah, just have had S&C coaches for years and they bitch incessantly about it. They make bosu balls for standing on or balance boards if you want to do stability training. Most likely (hopefully) his coach was treating it like a circus trick to impress people and not as a training tool.

 

Maybe thats why your S&C is training you and not Alvin Kamara. Tabbah knows a good amount more about this stuff than you.

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3 minutes ago, dmb3684 said:

 

Maybe thats why your S&C is training you and not Alvin Kamara. Tabbah knows a good amount more about this stuff than you.

And that same argument could be made for like every post on here questioning coaches/front offices. Do some independent research on it, see what the community thinks about this trainings efficacy.

 

I should have learned my lesson on starting this conversation when the forum was convinced Tony Horton was a great fit for training Lacey in the off season.

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35 minutes ago, hoppychokes said:

And that same argument could be made for like every post on here questioning coaches/front offices. Do some independent research on it, see what the community thinks about this trainings efficacy.

 

I should have learned my lesson on starting this conversation when the forum was convinced Tony Horton was a great fit for training Lacey in the off season.

 

Lots of people think Brady's trainer is a cook but TB is still crushing it at 43. Different trainers employ different methods. Kamara seems to be doing just fine.

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1 hour ago, dashoe said:

Correct, it's kook as in kooky and in reference to Bradys trainer i think the word many would use is QUACK. . .😂

As a Brady fan I choose to believe it's all due to his healthy breakfasts, and "alternative medicine" by no means includes anything slightly suspicious.

 

Also, steroids in the NFL is not a problem, and what is that bridge again you had for sale?

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14 hours ago, Boudewijn said:

As a Brady fan I choose to believe it's all due to his healthy breakfasts, and "alternative medicine" by no means includes anything slightly suspicious.

 

Also, steroids in the NFL is not a problem, and what is that bridge again you had for sale?

 

With all the rule changes to protect QBs, I bet this is something we start seeing more often. When you dont have to worry about getting hit and can just throw the ball, i bet a lot of  QBs play into their 40s. Brees is already there. 

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1 hour ago, dmb3684 said:

 

With all the rule changes to protect QBs, I bet this is something we start seeing more often. When you dont have to worry about getting hit and can just throw the ball, i bet a lot of  QBs play into their 40s. Brees is already there. 

 

This, as well as staying in the pocket and releasing the football in 2 seconds. The scramblers will still take a beating

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15 minutes ago, fingers said:

 

This, as well as staying in the pocket and releasing the football in 2 seconds. The scramblers will still take a beating

 

Yeah,I should have specified pocket passers. I dont think TB is doing anything shady. He gets protected by the refs more than most QBs.

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On 5/12/2019 at 11:40 PM, Boudewijn said:

As a Brady fan I choose to believe it's all due to his healthy breakfasts, and "alternative medicine" by no means includes anything slightly suspicious.

 

Also, steroids in the NFL is not a problem, and what is that bridge again you had for sale?

Have you see Brady with his shirt off? He will set combine lows across the board. No physical attributes to speak of given his surroundings. How could he survive? Attitude. How can he win? Competitive nature. How can he be the best? Fear of failure. 

 

Drugs or deflated balls won’t change that equation. 🤣

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12 hours ago, PizzaBeerFF said:

Have you see Brady with his shirt off? He will set combine lows across the board. No physical attributes to speak of given his surroundings. How could he survive? Attitude. How can he win? Competitive nature. How can he be the best? Fear of failure. 

 

Drugs or deflated balls won’t change that equation. 🤣

 

Brady ran a faster 3-cone than DK Metcalf.   Not combine lows "across the board".

 

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When Ingram was out the first 4 games of the 2018 season, Kamara scored 136.1 total PPR points - a full 16 game pace of 544.40 PPR points, which would have obliterated the fantasy RB PPR season scoring record.  Obviously he's not going to see that pace and the team signed Latavius to share some of the load but this just illustrates how talented and productive Kamara is in this Saints offense.  Would be fun to see the Saints fully unleash this guy for 1 season.

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2 hours ago, J.T. Marlin said:

When Ingram was out the first 4 games of the 2018 season, Kamara scored 136.1 total PPR points - a full 16 game pace of 544.40 PPR points, which would have obliterated the fantasy RB PPR season scoring record.  Obviously he's not going to see that pace and the team signed Latavius to share some of the load but this just illustrates how talented and productive Kamara is in this Saints offense.  Would be fun to see the Saints fully unleash this guy for 1 season.

 

I don't think we're ever again going to see a fully unleashed Kamara because he's not that good of a rusher between the tackles. Kamara is all about that short passing game and then he goes off in space. That said, I can see him reaching 1000 yards rushing, and he's so good as a pass catcher that I also see him with 1000 yards receiving. We often talk about a RB who might reach that 1000 yards on both, but Kamara legitimately can.

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On 1/10/2019 at 7:12 PM, PizzaBeerFF said:

This guy, if he can stay uninjured, has a skill set to rival the top backs of all time. We may be looking at a legend like Barry Sanders, Marshall Faulk. To not accept this is to turn a blind eye to generational talent. 

 

"BuT He'S NoT a GoAL LiNe BAcK"

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12 hours ago, Jags02 said:

 

I don't think we're ever again going to see a fully unleashed Kamara because he's not that good of a rusher between the tackles. Kamara is all about that short passing game and then he goes off in space. That said, I can see him reaching 1000 yards rushing, and he's so good as a pass catcher that I also see him with 1000 yards receiving. We often talk about a RB who might reach that 1000 yards on both, but Kamara legitimately can.

are there stats to back this up, because this reminds me of all the hot takes we heard last summer, how kamara was going to get vultured at the goal line by some guy with 7 career carries over 4 seasons who just got called up off the practice squad

 

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1 hour ago, PizzaBeerFF said:

 

And Barry and Marshall were? Not sure but my guess is he has more power than either Barry or Marshall. People are wrong thinking he has no power. 

 

I think cotton jones was being sarcastic

Kamara was used far far more heavily inside the 10 yard line than Ingram was. Idk if inside the 10 is considered goal line or if the goal line back is from the 2 and in. But Kamara got loads of opportunities close to the goal line.

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