Jump to content
NBC Sports EDGE Forums

Antonio Brown 2019 Outlook


Corleone
 Share

Message added by tonycpsu

Recent developments in AB's employment status, along with the continued inability of some users to keep their comments within the site guidelines, have forced us to lock this thread yet again.  If circumstances warrant, we will reopen.

Recommended Posts

13 minutes ago, Brownsfan74 said:

 

Trying to answer my own question.

It appears that the Zeke and Brady situations did not involve the commissioner exempt list.  Brady's situation played out entirely during the offseason, so there was no need.  Zeke was never put on the exempt list.  He was suspended prior to the season, was granted an injunction so that he could play, and Goodell declined putting him on the exempt list during the season.

So....I think the most applicable scenario is the Adrian Peterson situation.  Once he was on the exempt list, he could not play immediately and missed games.

If this is wrong, someone please correct me so that we have accurate info here.

 

Not to get all bird lawyer-y here, but once a player is placed on the exempt list the NFLPA can appeal and argue that the commissioner violated the agreement by unfairly suspending the player. Once it gets to that point, there are many outcomes depending on how the various judges and arbitrators rule. 

In the AP situation, he received a number of unfavorable rulings, which is why he missed the whole season.  I remember scrambling to add him at one point during that season because there was a possibility he'd be able to play during the fantasy playoffs. Then the ruling went the other way.

There's no apples-to-apples comparison because if/when AB is placed on the list, it all comes down to the specifics of the allegations, how hard the NFLPA wants to fight, how the judges rule. There are scenarios where the can gets kicked down the road and he eventually receives a suspension that applies to the 2020 season after playing 15 games + the playoffs this year, and there are scenarios where he never plays another game in the NFL. That risk is baked into any dealings involving this guy.

Edited by eg4190
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, pdizzle710 said:

Bleacher Report no reporting the NFL is investigating the alleged threatening test message sent by Brown to the woman.

 

Time will tell.

 

With everything we've seen in the past regarding NFL player conduct investigations, I would be shocked if he's not put on the exempt list after they're done. 

Think about it this way - how's it going to look if the NFL DOESN'T take action?  Those texts are out in the open and there is going to be a significant portion of the public who believes AB was trying to retaliate and intimidate his accuser.  Plenty of people here have come to that conclusion.  Not taking action will be interpreted as condoning it.

AB will have to exonerate himself completely and that's going to be nearly impossible.

I think the NFL plays it safe and puts him on the exempt list.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, eg4190 said:

Not to get all bird lawyer-y here, but once a player is placed on the exempt list the NFLPA can appeal and argue that the commissioner violated the agreement by unfairly suspending the player.

 

What I was trying to determine is whether the player can continue to play while an appeal of the exempt list status is being filed.  From what I can tell, they cannot play, so AB would be sitting as soon as it happened.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, Brownsfan74 said:

 

With everything we've seen in the past regarding NFL player conduct investigations, I would be shocked if he's not put on the exempt list after they're done. 

Think about it this way - how's it going to look if the NFL DOESN'T take action?  Those texts are out in the open and there is going to be a significant portion of the public who believes AB was trying to retaliate and intimidate his accuser.  Plenty of people here have come to that conclusion.  Not taking action will be interpreted as condoning it.

AB will have to exonerate himself completely and that's going to be nearly impossible.

I think the NFL plays it safe and puts him on the exempt list.

 

AB can not exonerate himself.

 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exonerate

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, Brownsfan74 said:

 

What I was trying to determine is whether the player can continue to play while an appeal of the exempt list status is being filed.  From what I can tell, they cannot play, so AB would be sitting as soon as it happened.

 

The players definitely can't play while they're on the list, but it is possible for a judge to order that a player be removed from the list pending an appeal / investigation / etc. though. So it's possible he could be placed on the list but win in court within a few weeks.  AP tried this strategy, he just lost in court.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, Brownsfan74 said:

 

What I was trying to determine is whether the player can continue to play while an appeal of the exempt list status is being filed.  From what I can tell, they cannot play, so AB would be sitting as soon as it happened.

Yes - a player can appeal placement on the list.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, SharkSwimmer said:

If I didn't dislike Antonio Brown so intensely, I would try to trade for him.  Goodell is a gutless weasel and will sit back and do nothing.  Book it.

 

This may have been true pre-Ray Rice incident, but not anymore.  They err on the side of too much discipline now.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, Brownsfan74 said:

 

This may have been true pre-Ray Rice incident, but not anymore.  They err on the side of too much discipline now.

The Tyreek Hill and Josh Gordon cases recently have appeared to be examples that the trend is reversing. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

21 minutes ago, SharkSwimmer said:

The Tyreek Hill and Josh Gordon cases recently have appeared to be examples that the trend is reversing. 

I’ve been watching from afar, but the key difference as far as I can tell is video/visual evidence. They will sweep it under the rug if they are able, but once there is a visual they take action (Rice, Hunt, AP). Now there is some visual evidence from DUMB AB, but I’m not sure it rises to the level of getting him put on the list. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

Edited by nromn
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, nromn said:

I’ve been watching from afar, but the key difference as far as I can tell is video/visual evidence. They will sweep it under the rug if they are able, but once there is a visual they take action (Rice, Hunt, AP). Now there is some visual evidence from DUMB AB, but I’m not sure it rises to the level of getting him put on the list. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

In this time of the me too movement, I can see eventual backlash from women’s rights groups to force the nfl’s hands.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

As far as I can tell, there's nothing particularly illegal about sending someone text messages. The most he'll get is a restraining order. It sounds like Brown and this woman should have a mutual restraining order against each other anyway. They both sound nuts.

Edited by LongBalls
  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
 Share

×
×
  • Create New...