StevenSC400 1,002 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, KennyWoo said: What has "happened" to Kittle (if you can even say such a thing; only five TEs have more catches than he does and he has more than Kelce even - where's Kelce's panic thread?) so far has nothing to do with different QB or even other WRs emerging (I posted about same earlier this week, that was just plain wrong as I hadn't done my research). It has solely to do with the following: Last season, SF's QBs threw the ball 33.25 per game. This season, they've thrown it 26 times per game. They threw it 28% more last season than they have through two games this season. Kittle's numbers are currently the following: 11 catches for 108 yards. If you gross those numbers up by 28%, it becomes 14 catches for 138 yards, a pace of 112 catches and 1,106 yards for a 16-game season, which would be 222 points in PPR independent of TDs. Last season, Kittle went 88-1,377, for 226 PPR points independent of TDs. This is all about game flow. So those numbers probably have a play in this also not disagreeing but teams are also doubling him more. And jimmy G doesn’t look like he wants to force him the ball. Mullen’s seemed like he was going to get him the ball one way or another. But again this just proves the point if anything. Different year different QB. Kittle has been a top 3 TE once. I own the guy I want him to be successful I’m just saying no way would I have drafted him in the 3rd. Edited September 18, 2019 by StevenSC400 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CoffToff10 27 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Who in their right mind is "selling low" on this guy after two weeks? 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kraftwrk_5 656 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Nervous box score watchers are apparently forgetting about the TWO touchdowns Kittle had called back in Week 1. What would his line have looked like if those had counted? Kittle is a beast who’s gonna eat plenty this year. I’d be looking to buy, not sell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeJoe88 1,164 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, CoffToff10 said: Who in their right mind is "selling low" on this guy after two weeks? Dummies. He had two tds called back in week one. If he just catches one of them, we’re not having this discussion. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mjb 808 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Brutal, the want to run the ball all day🤷♂️ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevenSC400 1,002 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 They don't even look for him in the red zone. Jimmy G is mediocre. He's not returning 3rd round value. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SadFaceHappy 2,049 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, StevenSC400 said: They don't even look for him in the red zone. Jimmy G is mediocre. He's not returning 3rd round value. Their ignorance of him in the red zone is infuriating. Makes no sense Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevenSC400 1,002 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, SadFaceHappy said: Their ignorance of him in the red zone is infuriating. Makes no sense It makes zero sense cause you would think that it should be his bread and butter based on mismatches. But its just not the case. I regret drafting him in the 5th round. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mjb 808 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, StevenSC400 said: It makes zero sense cause you would think that it should be his bread and butter based on mismatches. But its just not the case. I regret drafting him in the 5th round. 5th round😭? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevenSC400 1,002 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, mjb said: 5th round😭? He fell to the 5th in my league. So I felt like I had to grab him there but I'm not even sure he returns that value this year. Like I said earlier I have no idea how his ADP climbed to the 2-3rd round. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bringthesonicsback 1,631 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 how worried are we? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kyle87 843 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, StevenSC400 said: He fell to the 5th in my league. So I felt like I had to grab him there but I'm not even sure he returns that value this year. Like I said earlier I have no idea how his ADP climbed to the 2-3rd round. Position scarcity. Same reason I'd say he was still probably worth round 4 or so. He's not lighting it up but he's not dropping goose eggs in your line up like half your league in a 12 man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yossarian 3,524 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bringthesonicsback said: how worried are we? Fairly worried. Shannahan seems to be actively scheming away from him for some reason. It felt like the god damn fullback got as many targets as he did today all while he's being kept in to block so they can run the ball 450 times with their 8 RBs. the whole thing is a bit of a s--- show.* *for fantasy purposes. obviously they're 3-0 and putting up some points so it seems to be working in Real NFL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevenSC400 1,002 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, yossarian said: Fairly worried. Shannahan seems to be actively scheming away from him for some reason. It felt like the god damn fullback got as many targets as he did today all while he's being kept in to block so they can run the ball 450 times with their 8 RBs. the whole thing is a bit of a s--- show.* *for fantasy purposes. obviously they're 3-0 and putting up some points so it seems to be working in Real NFL. It seems like Shanahan really doesn't want the ball in Jimmy Gs hands and who can blame him. He's going to keep pounding that ball until teams stop him. That looks like the game plan and obviously a major problem for Kittle. The other issue is even during pass plays he just doesn't seem like he's the first option like I thought he would be. Edited September 23, 2019 by StevenSC400 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
djmax101 549 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 35 minutes ago, StevenSC400 said: They don't even look for him in the red zone. Jimmy G is mediocre. He's not returning 3rd round value. I don't have this weeks stats yet, but he had the 4th most red zone targets (5) of all NFL players through the first two weeks. If not for having two TD's called back on penalties, we wouldn't be having this conversation. The TD's will come. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevenSC400 1,002 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, djmax101 said: I don't have this weeks stats yet, but he had the 4th most red zone targets (5) of all NFL players through the first two weeks. If not for having two TD's called back on penalties, we wouldn't be having this conversation. The TD's will come. I hope your right and Im wrong. But unfortunately those called backed TDs don't count. So as of now just not feeling great about the pick and just not feeling great of what I saw on the 49ers offense in general. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fruitjacket 208 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 It appears Kittle's stock is dropping fast. I don't get it. I get that Shanahan wants to run the ball, and it's clearly working. But JG isn't even looking for Kittle. Maybe it's a chemistry thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yossarian 3,524 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, fruitjacket said: It appears Kittle's stock is dropping fast. I don't get it. I get that Shanahan wants to run the ball, and it's clearly working. But JG isn't even looking for Kittle. Maybe it's a chemistry thing. Maybe JG is just a useless putz? Bring back Nick Mullins!!!! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maroney's Bolgna 340 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 10, 3, and 8 targets. Not freaking out over here. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berko1se 167 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Had almost twice as many targets as the next closest option, led the team in receptions, and led the team in yardage. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mjb 808 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 56 minutes ago, Bringthesonicsback said: how worried are we? Sell, Sell, Sell🤢 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sivaro 943 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Guy is great in PPR. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShowStopper 839 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Big days are coming. You can see when he has the football in his hands he makes people miss and breaks tackles. YAC monster. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Real_Deal 300 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 43 minutes ago, Maroney's Bolgna said: 10, 3, and 8 targets. Not freaking out over here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kraftwrk_5 656 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Almost as many points as Kelce today. Wonder if they’re melting down over in his thread, lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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