Odell Beckham Jr. 2019 Outlook

[Jared24 38]

Is PP going to be shadowing him?

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The one week we bench him tho, we all know what will happen 🤕

Edited December 12, 2019 by tonycpsu
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[BakedGhost 48]

33 minutes ago, Jared24 said:

Is PP going to be shadowing him?

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The one week we bench him tho, we all know what will happen 🤕

I thought I was golden going Can't Guard and OBJ....still in the semi's in spite of him...and like everyone says we know what will happen if we bench him...so win or lose, sadly I will ride or die.

 

Although my brain tells me I should bench for BMW or Pascal.

[affliction 2,170]

PP is not a shut down cb this year you have to play him in this matchup

 

[Nyblazer11235 1,449]

41 minutes ago, affliction said:

PP is not a shut down cb this year you have to play him in this matchup

 

I’m not even worried about the db I’m worried about volume. Baker loves Landry and then you have Hunt Chubb and even Njoku to contend with 

[WVFalcon 68]

People keep saying you know what happens if we bench him. Well he's been on my bench the last 4 weeks and it's worked out great. I'm going to have to ride with him this week though due to the passing of Ridley and Evans. Not confident at all.

Edited December 12, 2019 by WVFalcon

[TheAuthorityHere 122]

7 hours ago, Nyblazer11235 said:

I’m not even worried about the db I’m worried about volume. Baker loves Landry and then you have Hunt Chubb and even Njoku to contend with 

Baker loves Landry because he can't connect on anything but short to intermediate throws over the middle.

[sjm76 769]

8 hours ago, Jared24 said:

Is PP going to be shadowing him?

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The one week we bench him tho, we all know what will happen 🤕

Peterson will likely be shadowing him but he isn't the shutdown cb he once was.  I think the bigger concern is Beckham's groin issue and the chance of him aggravating it.  The matchup is ideal but he hasn't done much recently.

[dashoe 6,462]

 

 

He wants to be in a big media market soooooo bad!🤣

[Eaglesflyhigh11 450]

12 hours ago, dashoe said:

 

 

He wants to be in a big media market soooooo bad!🤣

It could work out for him. Maybe with the bright lights he'll come alive again

[Eaglesflyhigh11 450]

Why wouldn't PP Shadow Landry?  Odell has been getting shutdown by some bum CBs all season. Just my opinion

[SuperJoint 4,116]

On 12/13/2019 at 10:25 AM, Eaglesflyhigh11 said:

Why wouldn't PP Shadow Landry?  Odell has been getting shutdown by some bum CBs all season. Just my opinion

My guess is PP will cover whoever becomes the hot hand. PP also has not been nearly the presence in this defense as in the recent past. ARI is flat out bad on pass D and PP is not much of a concern imo.

I also think it's a false premise that he's been "shut down by bum CBs"; my opinion is he's been shut down by an incompetent coach and QB. 

I support Beckham's apparent mission to go to a new team If/only if Kitchens is retained. If the Browns can get a decent replacement I would then hope OBJ sticks around. This offense is loaded with talent/potential and has been underutilized all year long.

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[dashoe 6,462]

On 12/13/2019 at 1:25 PM, Eaglesflyhigh11 said:

Why wouldn't PP Shadow Landry?  Odell has been getting shutdown by some bum CBs all season. Just my opinion

Landry is a slot wr, it's rare u place ur best cb on a slot wr, u want to protect the downfield big play threat not the 5yd catch.

I also think people are misinformed as to the way defenses cover, Shadowing is not a common as comments on the board make it seem. Teams play alot of zone not man to man and defenders protect their area not neccessarily a specific wr.  Shadow simply means 1 cb follows 1 wr regardless of where he lines up and the route he runs. This not common in the NFL only certain players get shadow coverage

[Eaglesflyhigh11 450]

9 minutes ago, dashoe said:

Landry is a slot wr, it's rare u place ur best cb on a slot wr, u want to protect the downfield big play threat not the 5yd catch.

I also think people are misinformed as to the way defenses cover, Shadowing is not a common as comments on the board make it seem. Teams play alot of zone not man to man and defenders protect their area not neccessarily a specific wr.  Shadow simply means 1 cb follows 1 wr regardless of where he lines up and the route he runs. This not common in the NFL only certain players get shadow coverage

I get that.  Could of sworn I seen Landry running tons of plays outside. Ofc the occasional slot.  

[dashoe 6,462]

1 hour ago, Eaglesflyhigh11 said:

I get that.  Could of sworn I seen Landry running tons of plays outside. Ofc the occasional slot.  

 

I'm sure he does run a bunch of outside routes for a mismatch but I dont think defenses believe he warrants  shadow coverage. He catches balls but he doesnt beat your secondary the way a prime OBJ does

[vercrazy 970]

1 hour ago, dashoe said:

 

I'm sure he does run a bunch of outside routes for a mismatch but I dont think defenses believe he warrants  shadow coverage. He catches balls but he doesnt beat your secondary the way a prime OBJ does

 

Ironically OBJ would probably be a monster out of the slot if Kitchens were smart enough to play him there.

[Eaglesflyhigh11 450]

7 hours ago, vercrazy said:

 

Ironically OBJ would probably be a monster out of the slot if Kitchens were smart enough to play him there.

Was thinking this too. 

[Eaglesflyhigh11 450]

9 hours ago, dashoe said:

 

I'm sure he does run a bunch of outside routes for a mismatch but I dont think defenses believe he warrants  shadow coverage. He catches balls but he doesnt beat your secondary the way a prime OBJ does

But he has been and obj has not. I get what you've been saying. Im just going off of what's been going on lately. Not before this season Odell

[maxim730 612]

Easy bench for next week.

[wendellrott 504]

11 minutes ago, maxim730 said:

Easy bench for next week.

 

Mayfield's the Bust

[Cmilne23 10,544]

Is @jsch08 still laughing at people for doubting this bust in this thread or has he gone away with the bust?  Been away for a bit so haven’t checked back. Guy was convinced this loser would come to light again.  Maybe in week 17 when it doesn’t matter for him or his bum armed QB.

[kdko 1,186]

1 hour ago, Cmilne23 said:

Is @jsch08 still laughing at people for doubting this bust in this thread or has he gone away with the bust?  Been away for a bit so haven’t checked back. Guy was convinced this loser would come to light again.  Maybe in week 17 when it doesn’t matter for him or his bum armed QB.

 

Yeesh, why the hostility?  Not healthy, bruh.

[Cmilne23 10,544]

7 minutes ago, kdko said:

 

Yeesh, why the hostility?  Not healthy, bruh.

Not hostility.  Came in here in early Nov and gave my opinion and was greeted with hostility.  It’s very simple this guy simply isn’t a very good football player.  It comes back to when Giants dealt him and everyone thought they got such a poor package.  Diva WRs are a thing of the past in the nfl.  Their shelf life is short.  His expired.  He’ll trot from team to team now the rest of his career with ups and downs and probably no playoff appearances unless it’s as a jock sniffer.  Randy Moss use to take plays off and not GAF about blocking on runs plays also, then he’d also scale over a DB on a 50 yard bomb and pull ball from his chest into his arms.  Beckham doesn’t have the skills of players before him to separate himself as a malcontent who plays when he wants to play.  

Edited December 16, 2019 by Cmilne23

[EaglesRocker97 210]

6 hours ago, Cmilne23 said:

 It’s very simple this guy simply isn’t a very good football player

Stopped reading right there. It's not very simple, and you're very wrong.

[dashoe 6,462]

7 hours ago, Cmilne23 said:

Not hostility.  Came in here in early Nov and gave my opinion and was greeted with hostility.  It’s very simple this guy simply isn’t a very good football player.  It comes back to when Giants dealt him and everyone thought they got such a poor package.  Diva WRs are a thing of the past in the nfl.  Their shelf life is short.  His expired.  He’ll trot from team to team now the rest of his career with ups and downs and probably no playoff appearances unless it’s as a jock sniffer.  Randy Moss use to take plays off and not GAF about blocking on runs plays also, then he’d also scale over a DB on a 50 yard bomb and pull ball from his chest into his arms.  Beckham doesn’t have the skills of players before him to separate himself as a malcontent who plays when he wants to play.  

 

 

I don't see a bad football player. I see a poorly coached team with a HC who lacks an identity

[affliction 2,170]

It's easy to point the blame at ODB because you drafted him but the real issue is Kitchens and Baker. He is an easy DND if he stays with the Browns but he will probably force his way out in the offseason. He is getting paid like a top 5 WR. Personally I wouldn't want him at 14m with the diva antics but I'm sure some team will take him.